Buffalo03 Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, GreggTX said: There are already RB FA's out there that are just as good so why give away draft picks for nothing? I don't even want to waste a draft pick on a RB when guys like Hyde and Anderson can be had at very reasonable prices. Use those day 3 picks to look for OL and DE help. Maybe we'll find the proverbial diamond in the rough. The next Ed Wang! (j/k) I don't know if Devonta Freeman or Lamar Miller are as good as he is. Plus, they are older. There is no guarantee we get a decent RB or a RB at all. Beane will go best player available. If that isn't a RB then we won't draft it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Dave Caldwell annually dumping players like he’s not remotely accountable for their being drafted or signing there is fascinating Edited April 19, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-reportedly-discussing-leonard-fournette-trade-and-here-are-five-landing-spots-that-make-sense/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, DJB said: He’s perfect as a complement to Devin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Question is................... What is Jacksonville looking for in a trade? I am guessing they wanna draft one of the top 5 backs in this draft. Another question.............. Do the Bills think that Fournette would be a better option than one of the top 5 RB's falling to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s perfect as a complement to Devin Do we have any FO or current players with any type of connection to Fournette ? Might increase the likely hood we go that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DJB said: Do we have any FO or current players with any type of connection to Fournette ? Might increase the likely hood we go that way Just Yeldon. Bills RB coach Kelly Skipper came from Jax, but left the year fournette was drafted Edited April 19, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'd be doing cartwheels if we can get him for a 3rd rounder or less. Folks, we are talking Fournnette. The guy would be a beast on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: Not a bad idea. But anything greater than a 5th and I'm out. At the most. There's a reason Jax is dumping him after 3 years, he's been a huge disappointment for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, well that goes without saying. The run was what it was but the HIIT workout was intense. The picture is one of the creepier things that I’ve ever done. I had told my dad and brother that I ran by him like a day or 2 before. I sent the picture the next time. You can’t really see but that’s him and some girl near the top. I sold the original to TMZ. I remember the first Bills training camp I went to, these guys are so big and fit it’s scary to think of one of them being pissed off at you, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just Yeldon. Bills RB coach Kelly Skipper came from Jax, but left the year fournette was drafted I'm pretty sure he brawled with the Bills when we played them. Was that with Shaq or J Phillips by chance? Edit looked it up. Google says Shaq The plus side is Shaq isnt here and now hes the enemy anyways so would add some intrigue lol. But usually these guys laugh it off and get over it anyways. Edited April 19, 2020 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, DJB said: I'm pretty sure he brawled with the Bills when we played them. Was that with Shaq or J Phillips by chance? it was Shaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Ryan Talbot article lends some more smoke here possibly including quotes from Beane on him (from the past) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Is this a case where the F5 function will be used if you have a Windows PC? ? Edited April 19, 2020 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, KD in CA said: At the most. There's a reason Jax is dumping him after 3 years, he's been a huge disappointment for them. Or it could be that no one wants to play there. That franchise is a dumpster fire. They have already lost Ramsey, Bouye and Calais Campbell. They could lose Ngakoue. They are in a rebuild situation with a coach one year away from being fired. I wouldn't necessarily call him a disappointment. He ran for over 1000 yards his rookie year and over 1100 yards last year with 76 receptions so he's reliable out of the backfield. Sounds like a good option to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Best no-knead bread recipe I’ve tried. Used a cast iron pot. Increase the water to 1 3/4 cup. Takes a good 24 hours with all the rises. https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread #fournettewatch Edited April 19, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Or it could be that no one wants to play there. That franchise is a dumpster fire. They have already lost Ramsey, Bouye and Calais Campbell. They could lose Ngakoue. They are in a rebuild situation with a coach one year away from being fired. I wouldn't necessarily call him a disappointment. He ran for over 1000 yards his rookie year and over 1100 yards last year with 76 receptions so he's reliable out of the backfield. Sounds like a good option to me But he's a one year rental who will want to be paid like a top 5 pick. So yeah, a late round pick to him off Jax's hands is fine. But nothing more than that. I'd still want them to draft someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KD in CA said: But he's a one year rental who will want to be paid like a top 5 pick. So yeah, a late round pick to him off Jax's hands is fine. But nothing more than that. I'd still want them to draft someone. He still has a 5th year option that needs to be picked up so we could get two years out of him and if we do cut ties after one year we would get a comp pick for next year which would allow us to get back another pick after giving up next year's 4th for Diggs Edited April 19, 2020 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Makes too much sense to happen, but Beane is a rainmaker so wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Best no-knead bread recipe I’ve tried. Used a cast iron pot. Increase the water to 1 3/4 cup. Takes a good 24 hours with all the rises. https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread #fournettewatch Michael Symon’s Chicken Paprikash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) On 3/19/2020 at 11:30 AM, BillsFan17 said: Hes not Trent Richardson level bust, but hes close. He's coming off an 1100 yard season? I don't really get the hate. I like Edwards-Helaire better, but there's certainly no guarantee that you're going to find a RB in the 4th-7th that's going to rush for 1,000 twice in his first three seasons... Edit - 1100 yards rushing, and it was actually 1152. Guy put up 1674 total yards last year! What a bum. Edited April 19, 2020 by Nelius 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 What’s good, gents? What’s good? Looking over this thread, YE OLE has been asking himself “what sort of picks do we need to ship to Jax and what sort of cabbage must we pay this Fournette fellow?” It seems like the sum of picks + cabbage may be excessive for a fellow who has been decent but far from all pro level at a highly replaceable position. Gents, something appears to be unsavory in the woodshed here vis-à-vis this trade speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Nelius said: He's coming off an 1100 yard season? Fournette is better than any free agent RB imo. I don't really get the hate. I like Edwards-Helaire better, but there's certainly no guarantee that you're going to find a RB in the 4th-7th that's going to rush for 1,000 twice in his first three seasons... Edit - 1100 yards rushing, and it was actually 1152. Guy put up 1674 total yards last year! What a bum. He also had 76 receptions last year. Really good receiver out of the backfield 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: Or it could be that no one wants to play there. That franchise is a dumpster fire. They have already lost Ramsey, Bouye and Calais Campbell. They could lose Ngakoue. They are in a rebuild situation with a coach one year away from being fired. I wouldn't necessarily call him a disappointment. He ran for over 1000 yards his rookie year and over 1100 yards last year with 76 receptions so he's reliable out of the backfield. Sounds like a good option to me Youre right. Let’s offer a 2nd. More, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Bring him in for a year and then get a good comp pick for losing a first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5th, 6th, or 7th round pick and I'd probably be ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: They still haven't picked up his 5th year option yet. It could be a 2 year deal. If it comes draft day and the top 3 guys in my mind are off the board which are Swift, Taylor and Simmons then I might be all for giving a 3rd or 4th. Beane is gonna go best player available. There is no guarantee we get AJ Dillon or anyone else in the 3rd or after They’re not gonna pick up his 5th year just to trade him that would make no sense lol. I think they wanna get rid of him quickly as possible. He’s been sort of a draft disappointment in some ways 1 hour ago, Nelius said: He's coming off an 1100 yard season? I don't really get the hate. I like Edwards-Helaire better, but there's certainly no guarantee that you're going to find a RB in the 4th-7th that's going to rush for 1,000 twice in his first three seasons... Edit - 1100 yards rushing, and it was actually 1152. Guy put up 1674 total yards last year! What a bum. He’s been injury prone most of his career and hasn’t until last year played a full season. He’s definitely not a draft bust but more of a draft disappointment. Even Some Jacksonville fans feel the same way. And the year before last he was beyond horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He’s been injury prone most of his career and hasn’t until last year played a full season. He’s definitely not a draft bust but more of a draft disappointment. Even Some Jacksonville fans feel the same way. And the year before last he was beyond horrible. I get it to an extent and can understand the "draft disappointment" label but he's definitely not anywhere near Trent Richardson. He's still got a future in the league. And he's coming off his best season, 2018 could have been the outlier. It would be a different story completely if he put up those numbers last year, but he put it all together a bit last year and is still only 25. I'd take a shot on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: They’re not gonna pick up his 5th year just to trade him that would make no sense lol. I think they wanna get rid of him quickly as possible. He’s been sort of a draft disappointment in some ways He’s been injury prone most of his career and hasn’t until last year played a full season. He’s definitely not a draft bust but more of a draft disappointment. Even Some Jacksonville fans feel the same way. And the year before last he was beyond horrible. What I was saying was that WE can pick up his 5th year option, not them. So, we would have him for 2 years. Secondly, no he hasn't been a draft disappointment. He has ran over 1000 yards in 2 of his 3 years in the league. He missed most of his 2nd year with an injury. And last year he had 1152 yards rushing and 76 catches out of the backfield for another 522 yards. He had over 1600 combined yards. You're way off on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) No. Fournette's fifth year option would be for $10,189,000 in 2021 according to OverTheCap.com. That's nutty money, particularly when you've already got a cheap talented #1 RB. He was damn good last year, so my guess is Jax doesn't let him go cheap. They're not going to get a 1st for him, IMO, but it also isn't likely to be a 5th and a 6th or something along those lines. No, thanks. EDIT: Joe B. has a good point about maybe getting a comp pick back for him after this year. Hadn't considered the possibility of just keeping him for one year. That would make it a bit more likely but I just don't see it myself. Still think Jax isn't going to let him go at a price that would make it a reasonable move for us. Edited April 19, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 10:18 AM, DFT said: Interesting, because he’s probably not going to be the guy there. I just don’t know if it’s worth adding him for what the Jags would want in return (can’t see less than a 3rd). There’s the “process guy”, question as well and his checkered history in Buffalo. I think there is a better chance that the Bills draft their bigger back, then trade. There’s a few FA’s out there still, too. 2nd round BPA could have quite a few RB options (though I think they’ll go secondary or WR still). is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Don Otreply said: I remember the first Bills training camp I went to, these guys are so big and fit it’s scary to think of one of them being pissed off at you, ? What did you get for that picture? A wax pack of Topps 2020 NFL trading cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 'Would anyone look at maybe calling the Jaguars about Fournette?' * "Hello, Jacksonville? You send that bum here, and this time we rattle a whole six pack off his melon!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 With quality running back available in the middle rounds of most draft years, why use multiple draft assets on an existing running back. Especially if it is for one year. I don't think we need a "top running back" in this draft. We need a quality back that can play as a backup and push Singletary. Sorry, I don't buy in to spending a lot on running backs. What did McCoy give us after investing heavily in him financially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: With quality running back available in the middle rounds of most draft years, why use multiple draft assets on an existing running back. Especially if it is for one year. I don't think we need a "top running back" in this draft. We need a quality back that can play as a backup and push Singletary. Sorry, I don't buy in to spending a lot on running backs. What did McCoy give us after investing heavily in him financially? You won't have to spend a lot on him. RBs are easiest position to find but there is still a high bust rate. Edited April 19, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 For a 4+ round pick? In a heartbeat! Get it done McBean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 12 hours ago, KD in CA said: At the most. There's a reason Jax is dumping him after 3 years, he's been a huge disappointment for them. I guess pretty much carrying the offense in their AFC championship year was very disappointing for them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 12 hours ago, DJB said: Do we have any FO or current players with any type of connection to Fournette ? Might increase the likely hood we go that way Tre? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 14 hours ago, njbuff said: I’d rather just draft a RB or two. Lots of good RB’s in this draft who would offer a lot more versatility than Fournette. Just under 1200 yards and 76 receptions last season ... so by versatility you mean he doesn’t carry the gatoraid bucket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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