BillsVet Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Isn’t it a bit early for April fools jokes? That hasn't been cancelled either? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 There are 2 possibilities that would make me okay with this: 1) We are trading for OBJ 2) We already have an agreement in place to move up for Ceedee Lamb/Jerry Jeudy on draft night If not I will be sick that we didn't end up with Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCOrange Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Seemingly we could have beaten that offer. I guess if it comes out that they refused to trade within the AFC that's one thing. But I find it hard to believe a 1st and change couldn't have gone it done considering what Arizona gave up. For the best WR in the NFL it's a no brainer. Unless we have something else planned. I don't think there's any reason to believe O'Brien was looking at the trade in a rational state of mind so there's no reason to assume offering more than Arizona did would have gotten the deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I've been hearing he wanted to restructure his contract again. That is one dude worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, HappyDays said: There are 2 possibilities that would make me okay with this: 1) We are trading for OBJ 2) We already have an agreement in place to move up for Ceedee Lamb/Jerry Jeudy on draft night If not I will be sick that we didn't end up with Hopkins. I’d rather OBJ. trading up for a WR in the draft is very bad move to me, imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Seems like a very low price for Hopkins I agree. A second and a boat anchor in David Johnson. BOB got hosed here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I have to imagine the texans wanted no part in trading him to another afc team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I really don't think it's ever black and white like that... I dunno. Theres about a dozen other teams that should have paid more for him but didn't. Just how it goes sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Can we rewind and delay the league year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 We love the front office these days. Yet we hate them when they DON'T make a blockbuster move? Gotta have the long-play view. They do, we don't. Trust the BeaneMcDTrustability Factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Cmon Cee Dee Lamb! Fall baby fall I have been local against trading up in this class, but this does seem like it could help push the big three down a bit. Also, if some of these linemen are unobtainable, it's likely the Jets may pass on WR as well in order to get line help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: No we need more defense!? This ^^^. we NEED another CB ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nucci Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Seasons1992 said: We love the front office these days. Yet we hate them when they DON'T make a blockbuster move? Gotta have the long-play view. They do, we don't. Trust the BeaneMcDTrustability Factory. Getting Hopkins wouldn't be a long play view? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: I have been local against trading up in this class, but this does seem like it could help push the big three down a bit. Also, if some of these linemen are unobtainable, it's likely the Jets may pass on WR as well in order to get line help. no doubt the Jets with take a OT, no one wants to play for gase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I agree with this. Basically gave up a second and took on the David Johnson boat anchor. We could’ve thrown in some late round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 This one might be worse than what Seahwaks gave us for Marshawn Lynch. Might be worse than 2 #1's for Laremy Tunsil. Hate to be a Texans fan in the near future.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: At some point we have to score more points don't we?? No I think our plan remains the same = keep OTHER teams from scoring more points ......... Edited March 16, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: no doubt the Jets with take a OT, no one wants to play for gase That's very true, but money also talks. I figured they would likely have to way overpay, but their GM has to be desperate to find a line to protect Darnold. I mean, all things considered, the top OTs in this class are legit, so even them going OT, will be good for them. Especially since present day we lack elite pass rush... But, push those WRs down!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I have to imagine the texans wanted no part in trading him to another afc team You’d have to think this was the case. I mean, we’re talking about BOB here, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't think it can be over-stated just how bad this trade is for the Texans. David Johnson was an outstanding player.....in 2016. He's currently one of the worst contracts in the league. You get a cap dump + 2nd + swap 4ths. And you give up one of the best WR in the league. A 29 year old on a fair contract that will very likely make the HOF. I'm flabbergasted. How does Beane not offer substantially more than this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Beane forgot to set his alarm clock...?♂️ I would fire him for this alone ? Edited March 16, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I can't help but wonder if this trade falls through. It just doesn't make any sense at all and O'Brien is going to get dragged for two days before it becomes official and I would imagine numerous teams are talking to him about offering more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 There is sentiment that, since the deal cant be finalized until Wed, there is a chance the deal could be reworked/axed all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I don't think it can be over-stated just how bad this trade is for the Texans. David Johnson was an outstanding player.....in 2016. He's currently one of the worst contracts in the league. You get a cap dump + 2nd + swap 4ths. And you give up one of the best WR in the league. A 29 year old on a fair contract that will very likely make the HOF. I'm flabbergasted. How does Beane not offer substantially more than this? A 2nd could have had if not even less given no $11M contract to take on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 WTF!!!! Can someone explain how they got Hopkins for pretty much nothing?!?!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, nucci said: Getting Hopkins wouldn't be a long play view? 3 years max, I'm in. He's already 28. I know our "window" is open, but resources can give the team two players for the cost of one. And it's proven that the front office knows how to value these resources like TP. 1 minute ago, wppete said: WTF!!!! Can someone explain how they got Hopkins for pretty much nothing?!?!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 So disappointed in the FO...this was a no brainer... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 For sure Beane was in on this but OBrien no way would trade Hopkins to an AFC team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Seasons1992 said: 3 years max, I'm in. He's already 28. I know our "window" is open, but resources can give the team two players for the cost of one. And it's proven that the front office knows how to value these resources like TP. a 2nd and a crap contract for the best wr in football. Your over here talking resources. What’s better a 2nd rd pick you hope turns into 1/2 the player Hopkins is or Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Bob McNair must be rolling over in his grave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: 3 years max, I'm in. He's already 28. I know our "window" is open, but resources can give the team two players for the cost of one. And it's proven that the front office knows how to value these resources like TP. You're talking a superstar WR.....which 2 players will equal Hopkins....and the cost was nothing to get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: a 2nd and a crap contract for the best wr in football. Your over here talking resources. What’s better a 2nd rd pick you hope turns into 1/2 the player Hopkins is or Hopkins. "You're." ? And yes, I'd take two or three players for the price of one. The beauty of the Internet is opinions are valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, wppete said: For sure Beane was in on this but OBrien no way would trade Hopkins to an AFC team. I get that there's a stigma to trading within the division, but is there really one for trading within the conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: So disappointed in the FO...this was a no brainer... Not sure how you can blame our FO. We have no idea if we tried for one. And second, why would they send Hopkins to the very team they just faced in the playoffs and barely beat? I mean we are a direct threat to them and really widely seen as missing a top end WR opposite Brown to take an even bigger step. Just because a guy is available doesnt mean they are willing to send to any team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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