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45 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:

#Redskins TE Logan Thomas: 2 years, $6.145M ($2.25M signing bonus)
 

 

Logan Thomas quietly getting an ok contract 

He wasn’t horrible with the Lions last year. Seems pretty in line with his performance 

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On 3/26/2020 at 3:28 PM, ColoradoBills said:

 

Personally I think EJ does help a lot going into camp.

But that aside, I agree with the BPA statement, it could be a QB at 4 or 5 and I wanted to know who could be a fit for backup.

 

Agree on Gaines.

 

though I’m not crazy about drafting a QB as backup. I’d prefer an established vet. 

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8 hours ago, TOboy said:

Clowney really sticks out above all the rest on that list, but I can't see it happening, not after all the investments we just made to the D-line. 

 

Also have a hard time seeing any of those 3 QB's swallowing their ego to come backup Josh. Maybe Flacco, as he's at the latest stage of his career. 

 

Maybe Hyde or Higgins? But I'd really like to see us add RB in Round 2. I think you can get a real game changer there. 

 

I'm kind of like "eh" on the OP's list. Flacco would be a decent b/u, but don't see the other 2 accepting anything other than starting gigs.

 

Re: RB - draft some young legs. Plug and play.  AJ Dillon is who I'm clamoring about. Love that kid.

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2 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

I'm kind of like "eh" on the OP's list. Flacco would be a decent b/u, but don't see the other 2 accepting anything other than starting gigs.

 

Re: RB - draft some young legs. Plug and play.  


Not in round 2. Get a guy like Moss or Dillon in round 4-5 to pair with Devin. Need a CB2, edge or O-Line. 

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5 minutes ago, Motor26 said:


Not in round 2. Get a guy like Moss or Dillon in round 4-5 to pair with Devin. Need a CB2, edge or O-Line. 

 

Respectfully disagree with the word "need".

 

Beane will draft BPA. That may be any of the aforementioned, but not sure edge or OL are warranted at 54. I think there stands a much better chance of WR or RB fitting the bill.

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1 minute ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Respectfully disagree with the word "need".

 

Beane will draft BPA. That may be any of the aforementioned, but not sure edge or OL are warranted at 54. I think there stands a much better chance of WR or RB fitting the bill.


I get the whole BPA thing, but what if a player of similar value can be had in later rounds? There might not be an edge guy in round 2, but I think a CB or OL will be. If the Bills draft a RB in round 2 after investing a 3rd in Devin last year, I think that would be a poor allocation of draft resources. Same goes for a receiver since they traded their 1st for Diggs.

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1 minute ago, Motor26 said:


I get the whole BPA thing, but what if a player of similar value can be had in later rounds? There might not be an edge guy in round 2, but I think a CB or OL will be. If the Bills draft a RB in round 2 after investing a 3rd in Devin last year, I think that would be a poor allocation of draft resources. Same goes for a receiver since they traded their 1st for Diggs.

 

Here's what I believe. The player selected will be BPA. :beer: 

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6 hours ago, Logic said:


I suppose you know for certain after one season that he WASN'T the best player available?

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  Exactly. A lot of draft analysts stated that Ford would need some work dealing with the NFL's speed rushers on the edge. Expecting him to come in as a rookie and perform at a high level just because he was a 2nd round draft choice is ridiculous. Even most first round tackles have a big learning curve when reaching the pros and only a few come in playing great out of the gate. 

  I myself thought he could play guard right away and switch to tackle when he was ready. That was obviously not their plan for him and it was not where he was needed last year either. He got thrown into the fire and understandably struggled but showed steady improvement. Even if he is a backup this year I would not label him a bad pick or a bust, he is young and improving. 

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53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why would he take that here?

 

He took it in GB.  Beane was Assistant GM when the Panthers drafted Funchess; McDermott was DC.  Generally speaking, former Panthers who have crossed paths with those guys don't seem to be opposed to coming to Buffalo.  Also, I don't think being a GB WR not named Davante Adams is such a desirable job.  

 

38 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Isn’t funchess just not very good

 

Probably not.  He looked like he was on the rise in year 3, but has been injured & inconsistent in the 2 years since.  As a big bodied WR, it's debatable that he'd be any better than Duke.  I'm not saying I wanted him, but it wouldn't have been a terrible signing for the price.

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59 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said:

 

He took it in GB.  Beane was Assistant GM when the Panthers drafted Funchess; McDermott was DC.  Generally speaking, former Panthers who have crossed paths with those guys don't seem to be opposed to coming to Buffalo.  Also, I don't think being a GB WR not named Davante Adams is such a desirable job.  

 

 

Probably not.  He looked like he was on the rise in year 3, but has been injured & inconsistent in the 2 years since.  As a big bodied WR, it's debatable that he'd be any better than Duke.  I'm not saying I wanted him, but it wouldn't have been a terrible signing for the price.

He isn’t making much so the price would have been right. I’m glad they didn’t though, the Bills should groom a few young guys in that WR room. Use some of the later picks and hope for gold.

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6 hours ago, Buffalo86 said:

 

He took it in GB.  Beane was Assistant GM when the Panthers drafted Funchess; McDermott was DC.  Generally speaking, former Panthers who have crossed paths with those guys don't seem to be opposed to coming to Buffalo.  Also, I don't think being a GB WR not named Davante Adams is such a desirable job.  

 

 

Probably not.  He looked like he was on the rise in year 3, but has been injured & inconsistent in the 2 years since.  As a big bodied WR, it's debatable that he'd be any better than Duke.  I'm not saying I wanted him, but it wouldn't have been a terrible signing for the price.

He'd be no more than the 4th target here. Taking a prove it contract in Buffalo would be pointless. 

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On 3/27/2020 at 10:02 PM, Motor26 said:

Like Cody Ford last year right? Definitely the BPA last year....

 

I mean he was BPA or pretty darn close to it. Lets say that Ford becomes a huge bust. He was still BPA on the draft big board. He was thought to be going to the Bengals at 11 before Jonah Williams fell to them. And there was some that mocked Ford to our 2nd first round pick. Regardless he was viewed as a first round talent by most. 

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6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He'd be no more than the 4th target here. Taking a prove it contract in Buffalo would be pointless. 

It’d seem like it should tell you something when Beane chooses not to sign someone from Carolina. No? 

12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

 

I mean he was BPA or pretty darn close to it. Lets say that Ford becomes a huge bust. He was still BPA on the draft big board. He was thought to be going to the Bengals at 11 before Jonah Williams fell to them. And there was some that mocked Ford to our 2nd first round pick. Regardless he was viewed as a first round talent by most. 

The legend of Cody Ford keeps dropping like a stone in the Stadium Wall echo chamber. Watch the kid end up being a stalwart rock for the next decade anchoring the right side of the Bills O Line. 

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11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’d seem like it should tell you something when Beane chooses not to sign someone from Carolina. No? 

The legend of Cody Ford keeps dropping like a stone in the Stadium Wall echo chamber. Watch the kid end up being a stalwart rock for the next decade anchoring the right side of the Bills O Line. 


Its all the same stuff people were saying about Dion Dawkins and now everyone wants to re-sign him. Ford showed enough flashes, he needs a chance to develop just like Dion did. If he doesn’t show progression this year, then you move him to guard. But that’s why Nsehke and Williams are here. They are the fallback options imo. 

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Regardless of whom is the starter at RT or any of the G positions, we have options. Really solid options and quality depth like we haven't seen on this team in years. Ford is only going into his 2nd season. He is under contract for 3 more years. I have faith in our coaching staff, especially Bobby Johnson, to have figured out where he belongs by then and that he will be a key piece to our OL wherever that may be. 

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17 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


I was just thinking that the other day... we seem to have a progressive line of such cases...

 

Glenn —> Dawkins —> Ford


Probably because it worked that one time when Mike Gandy moved to guard from LT and Jason Peters took over left tackle. I think Brad Butler made a similar move. 

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Probably because it worked that one time when Mike Gandy moved to guard from LT and Jason Peters took over left tackle. I think Brad Butler made a similar move. 

 

Ah yes, Brad Butler. The last truly good RT the Bills had. He retired abruptly to pursue a career in politics, I believe.

 

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


He had 2 career starts at RT.

 

Youre right. Was a good RG and moved to RT in his final season, then abruptly retired at 26.

 

Time does weird things to memory.

 

So the last good RT the Bills had was...Langston Walker? That can’t be right.

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18 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


He had 2 career starts at RT.

 

14 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

Youre right. Was a good RG and moved to RT in his final season, then abruptly retired at 26.

 

Time does weird things to memory.

 

So the last good RT the Bills had was...Langston Walker? That can’t be right.


yeah i could not remember if he moved from tackle to guard or guard to tackle. 
 

The last good right tackle we had was probably Jason Peters before he moved to left tackle. 
 

 

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 


What’s ironic here is that Darby was traded out of Buffalo because he was not a good fit for McDermott’s “Ron Rivera” style defense where Josh Norman was the prototype. So Ron Rivera gets the job in Washington, cuts Norman, signs Darby. ?‍♂️

 

I’m guessing maybe Rivera is going more man? I wonder if he will run a 3-4 like he did in Carolina in 2019. 

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38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Darby and Kendall Fuller both bring better man coverage to the Skins. I guess that we see a shift in Rivera’s philosophy?

 

24 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 


yeah i could not remember if he moved from tackle to guard or guard to tackle. 
 

The last good right tackle we had was probably Jason Peters before he moved to left tackle. 
 

 


What’s ironic here is that Darby was traded out of Buffalo because he was not a good fit for McDermott’s “Ron Rivera” style defense where Josh Norman was the prototype. So Ron Rivera gets the job in Washington, cuts Norman, signs Darby. ?‍♂️

 

I’m guessing maybe Rivera is going more man? I wonder if he will run a 3-4 like he did in Carolina in 2019. 

 

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