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Reed83HOF Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, poblano said: The point is Lawson maybe hit the top of his game and if Epenesa it's at that level with chances to improve then is a better option. I see Epenesa as Justin Smith(Cin/SF) not explosive, but with enough ability to rush from any spot in the line, and obviously a good run stuffer(the comparison is exaggerated at the moment, but can't remember other player with those abilities) It's a waste and an overdraft at 22 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: Agreed.I would rather just re-sign Shaq Lawson, who is exactly what you just described, but who already has 4 years of seasoning and who we already know fits in well with the locker room. It would be completely illogical to me to let Lawson walk and then draft Epenesa. Spinning our wheels. ..certainly agree.....think the kid has progressed well and declining the option was the right move.....probably pushed him to achieve more in 2019 and may have resulted in an uptick in his price.....he'll test FA IMO and I would think Beane comes up with a fair offer..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Go all LSU in the draft. Would take some trades for Beane: K'Lavon Chaisson Justin Jefferson Clyde Edwards-Helaire Edited March 1, 2020 by PIZ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Shenault having core surgery per CBS sportsline....... one more reason NOT to draft him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Trey Adams anyone? Well, that probably crossed him off McD's list of "process" types... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, PIZ said: Go all LSU in the draft. Would take Sone trades for Beane: K'Lavon Chaisson Justin Jefferson Clyde Edwards-Helaire The funny thing is now I really do look at what conference they play in. If they are SEC they have played much better competition and it will show up earlier in the NFL when players are still cost controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, PIZ said: Go all LSU in the draft. Would take Sone trades for Beane: K'Lavon Chaisson Justin Jefferson Clyde Edwards-Helaire That would be one hell of draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: My view on Epenesa is he is a big end who plays the run well can slide inside on obvious pass down and will get you 5 sacks a year. If people are hoping for an explosive edge rusher then for me he is not it. Yeah, I watched a bunch of his tape, and he struck me as playing a lot like Shaq Lawson. Do we need another Lawson? Not sure it's the pick to make in Rd. 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Lurker said: Well, that probably crossed him off McD's list of "process" types... I disagree. Think McDermott respects honesty...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Locomark said: Shenault having core surgery per CBS sportsline....... one more reason NOT to draft him.... I don’t actually think it’s a reason not the draft him. The surgery will make him better. I’d be more concerned if he didn’t have it, which he was originally planning on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Locomark said: Shenault having core surgery per CBS sportsline....... one more reason NOT to draft him.... Feel bad for the kid, but it’s worrisome that the story changed from “no surgery needed” to “surgery needed” over a few short weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I disagree. Think McDermott respects honesty...... Well, I was thinking in terms of locker room distraction... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Trey Adams anyone? Dumb. Ass. Moron. My apologies to morons everywhere for the comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, PIZ said: Multi sport translates well to nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if he is our pick in the 1st. Very possible he will be the BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I wouldn't be surprised if he is our pick in the 1st. Very possible he will be the BPA. Yep. If he is there at 22 he would be close to BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Lurker said: Well, I was thinking in terms of locker room distraction... laughing at the small wiener guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 51 minutes ago, K-9 said: Dumb. Ass. Moron. My apologies to morons everywhere for the comparison. I mean it’s funny on the surface, but it’s almost disqualifying. These are job interviews. Combine that answer with his performance at the combine, and you gotta ask if the guy even cares about playing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Feel bad for the kid, but it’s worrisome that the story changed from “no surgery needed” to “surgery needed” over a few short weeks ...here is a comparative recoup time for NHL's Stamkos having same surgery............. Lightning's Steven Stamkos out 6-8 weeks after surgery Associated Press 4:33 PM ET TAMPA, Fla. -- Tampa Bay Lightning captain Steven Stamkos will undergo surgery for a core muscle injury and is expected to miss the rest of the regular season and potentially the first round of the playoffs. The Lightning said Saturday that Stamkos will be out for approximately six to eight weeks, including rest and recovery. The Lightning are second in the Atlantic Division, and the playoffs are scheduled to begin the week of April 6. Stamkos has 29 goals and 66 points this season, both second on the team behind Nikita Kucherov. The surgery will be performed Monday by Dr. Michael Brunt at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. Stamkos, the overall No. 1 draft pick in 2008 and twice the NHL's top goal scorer, will miss a significant amount of action due to injury for the fourth time since 2014. After not missing a game because of injury in his first five seasons, Stamkos suffered a broken leg in Boston during a game on Nov. 11, 2014, when he crashed into the goal post and had to be stretchered off the ice. He underwent surgery to insert a titanium rod in the leg and missed all but 37 games that season. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28809202/lightning-steven-stamkos-6-8-weeks-surgery Edited March 1, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Winfield Jr: 4.48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Dumb. Ass. Moron. My apologies to morons everywhere for the comparison. From all of us in DC Tom's idiot club. Apology accepted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Wish they would show all the Long and High jumps along with bench press. I dont care about all these running and catching drills, there is game tape for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Nor me. At the moment I have Young (obviously) with a 1st and Chaisson with a borderline 1st/2nd. And I keep going back and forth on Chaisson. I don't think I am struggling with any other player in this class as much as him. I have now been back around a 3rd time on him. Conflicted. After that it Epenesa, Gross-Matos, Anae and your boy Greenard are all in a bit of a clump as mid to high 2nd round grades. what don't you like about Chaisson? I thought he made plays but was to slender. Edited March 1, 2020 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) He’s elite Edited March 1, 2020 by YoloinOhio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 hours ago, thebandit27 said: My R1 EDGE grades are Young, Chaisson, Baun, and Greenard. i thought Baun was a LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 hours ago, thebandit27 said: My R1 EDGE grades are Young, Chaisson, Baun, and Greenard. No Matos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i thought Baun was a LB? He was a 3-4 OLB at Wisconsin, but lots of people are projecting him as a off ball LB cause of his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blank Stare Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Would love to grab Harrison Bryant, but not sure it happens with Knox and Sweeney last year. Easily cut Lee Smith or Kroft for him though. Guy could be pretty special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I always thought Tanner Muse was a LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Antoine Winfield Jr please. Daddy was a tackling machine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: what don't you like about Chaisson? I thought he made plays but was to slender. So frame an ability to play as an every down end is definitely one thing. The other is just lack of production. If you are drafting Chaisson in the first as a pass rusher you are banking on him being able to significantly increase his production in a higher level of football compared to college. That does happen but its rare. And as well as that his tape from the game against Georgia where he went against a fellow 1st round talent in Andrew Thomas at tackle and came off 2nd best by a distance. EDIT: I should clarify that I do like him. I have a borderline 1st on him. The above is what has to this point held me back from going with a true 1st round grade. Edited March 2, 2020 by GunnerBill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s elite Fantastic. Would have enjoyed that more without having to listen to Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Fantastic. Would have enjoyed that more without having to listen to Sanders. I think Deion is still talking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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