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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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9 hours ago, Magox said:

I just chimed in on the Stadium wall.  Judging by the opinions I have read there on COVID, I’m guessing they won’t like my opinion. lol

I used to love going to the wall. Cant do it anymore.  Its Don this and Don that now. And I'm  in the party of haters? 

7 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

News from the front:

 

At the gym as I type this.  Not crowded maybe 50 people. Only saw two masks. Back to reality baby!!  

Haha. I saw a guy in Ace the other day with a WWII gas mask in and it had Coumo's an idiot painted on it.

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7 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

News from the front:

 

At the gym as I type this.  Not crowded maybe 50 people. Only saw two masks. Back to reality baby!!  

I bought Planet Fitness stock back in April as I figured the most impactful outcome of covid19 for most Americans under 60 was gaining 19 pounds.

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8 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

News from the front:

 

At the gym as I type this.  Not crowded maybe 50 people. Only saw two masks. Back to reality baby!!  

At the bar I often go to, things were back to normal. The owner actually put a sign on the door stating that he understands that times have been tough and that people are still worried about getting sick. He then went on to say that if someone is worried about his patrons not wearing masks, they shouldn't enter his establishment. I gave him a big pat on the back for that one.

 

It's both amazing and sad feeling a sense of normalcy. Amazing because it's great being around people not living in fear and actively enjoying their lives. Sad because tyrants made it feel like a gift that we're "allowed" to get back to normal.

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3 hours ago, Magox said:

One of the mods deleted one of my comments over there.  Out of all the ignorant comments, one of mine that is based off of actual data gets deleted.   Pathetic :lol:


same for me.    They deleted logics response to me as well before I could read it ???

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Beijing authorities have described the city’s coronavirus outbreak as “extremely severe” as dozens more cases emerged, sports and entertainment sites were closed and travel was curtailed.

Parts of the Chinese capital were fenced off on Monday night, with security checkpoints set up at residential compounds, and high-risk people – such as close contacts of diagnosed cases – prevented from leaving the city. 

Yang Zhanqiu, a deputy director at the pathogen biology department at Wuhan University, told state media he believed the new outbreak involved a more contagious strain of the virus than the one that hit Wuhan at the beginning of the pandemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/beijing-coronavirus-outbreak-travel-restricted-china-severe-measures

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4 hours ago, Magox said:

One of the mods deleted one of my comments over there.  Out of all the ignorant comments, one of mine that is based off of actual data gets deleted.   Pathetic :lol:

funny how actual data can be deemed to be bad facts

 

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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Beijing authorities have described the city’s coronavirus outbreak as “extremely severe” as dozens more cases emerged, sports and entertainment sites were closed and travel was curtailed.

Parts of the Chinese capital were fenced off on Monday night, with security checkpoints set up at residential compounds, and high-risk people – such as close contacts of diagnosed cases – prevented from leaving the city. 

Yang Zhanqiu, a deputy director at the pathogen biology department at Wuhan University, told state media he believed the new outbreak involved a more contagious strain of the virus than the one that hit Wuhan at the beginning of the pandemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/beijing-coronavirus-outbreak-travel-restricted-china-severe-measures

 

That's very bad news

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WASHINGTON — Less than a month after President Trump urged churches to reopen, West Virginia has reported a significant number of coronavirus outbreaks linked to houses of worship. According to the state’s public health office, a total of five churches have seen outbreaks.

Those churches are scattered across the rugged, mountainous state. The affected churches are in Jefferson County on the border with Maryland; Boone County, in the state’s southwestern coalfields, not far from the Kentucky border; Hampshire County, also near the Maryland border; and Marshall County, in a narrow swath of the state squeezed between Ohio and Pennsylvania known as the Northern Panhandle.

The state’s Department of Health and Human Resources announced the five-church outbreak in a Saturday press release about a house of worship in Greenbrier County, where it said “at least 17 cases have been identified.” It did not name the Greenbrier church, or the churches in the other four counties, to “protect the possibility of identifying individuals.”

 

Trump is holding a big rally with thousands and thousands. That will most likely kill people, but Trump must have his rally https://news.yahoo.com/west-virginia-sees-coronavirus-outbreaks-in-churches-200854506.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZHJ1ZGdlcmVwb3J0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMiihIYYZmd7E9xCVb9nBS09mRsA0fORb0mmxFC1PDSr_3azneElEk2DQaLIbzQy54jANQk2W9_h_ARdTLbNXKeU1kTCjYuEam-Qiz5vI6K6Kz8KQKiD_xkwqEiB7iYGVGhunu66zNjkiJ-NabbEkoa3RVCVFKxGSuPhb4eSFGzW

2 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

That's very bad news

Yup, this is not going away anytime soon. 

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5 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Liberalism is a disease 

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

Joe gets up at 6:00 am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good, clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and efficacy. All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance. Now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. Joe takes his morning shower, reaching for his shampoo; his bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know the amount and identity of the substances he was putting on his body.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor to society. Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer upholds these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed hell get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some Liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work, and he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to his dad's; his car is among the safest in the world be cause some wacko liberal (Ralph Nader!) fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmer's Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home. He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefi that Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives", he says. "After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".

 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

Joe gets up at 6:00 am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good, clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and efficacy. All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance. Now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. Joe takes his morning shower, reaching for his shampoo; his bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know the amount and identity of the substances he was putting on his body.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor to society. Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer upholds these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed hell get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some Liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work, and he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to his dad's; his car is among the safest in the world be cause some wacko liberal (Ralph Nader!) fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmer's Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home. He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefi that Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives", he says. "After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".

 

Does it hurt being so stupid?

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican Tiberius

Joe  Tiberius gets up at 6:00 am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good, clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He forgets to take his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee.

 

FIFY....

 

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14 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Pretty much mirrors the results of a discussion that I had with someone on this board (not you) over 6 weeks ago.  They disagreed or were skeptical of this premise.   

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It seems like this is the first thing I've seen suggesting an effective late-stage treatment for Covid patients. 

 

7 minutes ago, Magox said:


 

Pretty much mirrors the results of a discussion that I had with someone on this board (not you) over 6 weeks ago.  They disagreed or were skeptical of this premise.   

 

I've been wanting to see data from the countries that opened schools before businesses. Looks great. 

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Yesterday, Monday, was another low death toll, with only ten states in double digits and NONE over 50 for the first time since the lock down. So even considering the make up factor from the weekend there were 40 states in single digits and 13 states with ZERO Covid 19 deaths reported. 

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10 minutes ago, Magox said:


 

Pretty much mirrors the results of a discussion that I had with someone on this board (not you) over 6 weeks ago.  They disagreed or were skeptical of this premise.   

 

Similar to the Denmark study, AFAIK.

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Oklahoma? What's going to happen there soon? 

 

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June 16 (Reuters) - New cases of COVID-19 nearly doubled in Alabama and South Carolina in the second week of June compared to the prior seven days, a Reuters analysis found, as 17 U.S. states reported weekly increases in the spread of the novel coronavirus.

Alabama's new cases rose 97% to 5,115 for the week ended June 14, with 14% of COVID-19 tests coming back positive compared to 6% in the prior week, according to the analysis of data from The COVID Tracking Project, a volunteer-run effort to track the outbreak.

New cases in South Carolina rose 86% to 4,509, while the positive test rate rose to about 14% from 9% over the same period, according to the analysis and state data.

When asked to comment on the increases, South Carolina and Alabama health officials said some residents were not following recommendations to maintain social distance, avoid large gatherings and wear a mask in public.

In Oklahoma, where President Donald Trump plans to hold an indoor campaign rally on Saturday, new cases rose 68% to 1,081 in the second week of June, while the positive test rate increased to 4%, from 2% the previous week.

 

 

38 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Because the pandemic is not about the 118,000 dead and counting for Trump - it’s another opportunity to enrich himself and his cronies.
 

Inspectors general warn that Trump administration is blocking scrutiny of coronavirus rescue programs

 

Drain the swamp??? ???

 

Thank you Trump voters! 

Not even trying to hide their corrupt nature, just sleeze balls 

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11 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Then the “the reason cases are rising is because we’re testing more” is logical too correct?  

 

Could be but it's not as straightforward as "If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any." That's a whole different level of stupid. 

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1 minute ago, shoshin said:

 

Could be but it's not as straightforward as "If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any." That's a whole different level of stupid. 


No I’m not addressing Trumps stupid tweet. You said it was logical. I was just getting your take on the logic of other side. Nice two dance. 
 

It’s a numbers game. You do understand how math works right?  

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


No I’m not addressing Trumps stupid tweet. You said it was logical. I was just getting your take on the logic of other side. Nice two dance. 
 

It’s a numbers game. You do understand how math works right?  

 

I do, but I don't think you do. You can have rising cases along with rising tests (and you can also have falling cases and rising tests) so your attempt to flip around Trump's stupidity into a proof of the opposite doesn't always work. 

 

Can't justify his stupid here. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Magox said:

Even Politifact calling out Cuomo for his BS

 

 

 

WSJ continues its expose of USA's failures in the pandemic

 

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The U.S. death toll from Covid-19 in nursing homes and other long-term-care facilities has topped 50,000, marking a grim milestone in a pandemic that is taking a heavy toll on the oldest and most vulnerable people, state data show.

A Wall Street Journal tally of counts from around the U.S. also shows more than 250,000 novel coronavirus infection cases among residents and staffers at long-term-care facilities, along with 50,919 deaths. Measured against the overall count of more than 116,000 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S., compiled by Johns Hopkins University, buildings meant to house and care for seniors are linked to more than 40% of pandemic’s deaths in the U.S. thus far.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ALF said:


Share of Covid 19 Deaths in Nursing Homes & Assisted Care Facilities map of U.S.

 

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing-home-crisis-by-the-numbers-3a47433c3f70

 

Other states were a lot worse then NY, that is no excuse for what happened here

 

 

 

And I think what this points out that many have said is that I think we know how to proceed here. Protect those that are most vulnerable to the virus and let the rest of us go about our lives as long as we are mindful of those that are vulnerable.  Kind of like we should be doing every flue season.  As I've mentioned my mom worries EVERY flu season.  

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15 minutes ago, ALF said:


Share of Covid 19 Deaths in Nursing Homes & Assisted Care Facilities map of U.S.

 

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing-home-crisis-by-the-numbers-3a47433c3f70

 

Other states were a lot worse then NY, that is no excuse for what happened here

 

 

 

I have long-suspected this is misleading because NYC has a large older population that lives in nursing-home-like environments (densely packed housing) that aren't called nursing homes.  

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14 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Talk about misleading headlines?

 

Form the article
 

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At least six bars in northern and central Florida have now announced their closures amid new Covid-19 cases, which peaked on Sunday.

 

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11 hours ago, Magox said:

One of the mods deleted one of my comments over there.  Out of all the ignorant comments, one of mine that is based off of actual data gets deleted.   Pathetic :lol:

Lol they deleted me eviscerating some dude who attended protests but was 100% rona panicking.

 

A little hypocrisy exposure must go!

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