BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: That black man is, worst president in my lifetime, and easily the most corrupt administration in American history Of course he is - Trump told you so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: That black man is, worst president in my lifetime, and easily the most corrupt administration in American history ...and he did his best to widen the racial divide.......call me a bigot, racist et al (could care less; take even MORE shots because of my Italian-American ancestry), but his "supporters (define them as you like)" saw an opportunity to gain unencumbered..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 LMAO - besides the loyal Trump voters here and around America - does anyone actually believe anything that comes out of this White House? ‘There is no emergency’: W.H. economic advisers shrug off feared ‘second wave’ of coronavirus LOL Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and he did his best to widen the racial divide....... Substantiate this please, @Buffalogal; whoops, I mean @OldTimeAFLGuy - lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, BillStime said: Remind me - who is the President of the United States? And NO - FKER - people like ME do not LIKE and HOPE for more infection and death. My parents are at high risk - I don't want to lose them because our leadership destroyed our infrastructure and ignored critical data in November - because they are SELFISH AF! Just like you bro! You remind us who the president is with every post you make. As for my post, I never said anyone hopes for death. Everyone knows vulnerable people who shouldn’t get ill because they’re at an elevated risk. Those at-risk people should take extra precaution, like don’t go out during the George Floyd, anti-Trump protests. Go call those people names, not me. ...and again with your claim about November. Again it is twisted so Trump can be blamed. Nice job, you can’t help yourself. My post made the point that Trump is his own worst enemy and there’s no reason why anyone should lie about facts if they oppose him. You got all knotted up and lost your temper over that. Nice job. Why should anyone take you seriously if you post untrue things and then lose your temper when someone calls you out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: LMAO - besides the loyal Trump voters here and around America - does anyone actually believe anything that comes out of this White House? ‘There is no emergency’: W.H. economic advisers shrug off feared ‘second wave’ of coronavirus LOL Substantiate this please, @Buffalogal; whoops, I mean @OldTimeAFLGuy - lmao ...it will take awhile......busy cleaning up after your usual drivel....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: You remind us who the president is with every post you make. As for my post, I never said anyone hopes for death. Everyone knows vulnerable people who shouldn’t get ill because they’re at an elevated risk. Those at-risk people should take extra precaution, like don’t go out during the George Floyd, anti-Trump protests. Go call those people names, not me. ...and again with your claim about November. Again it is twisted so Trump can be blamed. Nice job, you can’t help yourself. My post made the point that Trump is his own worst enemy and there’s no reason why anyone should lie about facts if they oppose him. You got all knotted up and lost your temper over that. Nice job. Why should anyone take you seriously if you post untrue things and then lose your temper when someone calls you out? You're kidding yourself if you think Trump didn't know in November; if not before that. You think the US really relies on the WHO for its global forecast? And I could care less if Trumpholes like you take me seriously; if facts mattered - you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...it will take awhile......busy cleaning up after your usual drivel....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, snafu said: For anyone wondering why the media keeps flogging a nearly dead horse, here is an example of why continuing the Covid hype is occurring. It is so that people can manufacture outrage over a Trump rally and claim how reckless he is. Just like BillStime trying to use a six year old video of Obama paired with fragments of facts to lay Covid blame entirely at Trump’s feet. Theres enough Trump material to crack him over the head with, but it isn’t enough. People like to hope for more infections and mis-shape the recent past just because they hate the guy in office. Trump to hold rally during a pandemic, lol. Awesome! 51 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Because the Orange Man is Bad. Nothing to do with the fact he is an incompetent, racist clown. You actually think he is smarter than Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump to hold rally during a pandemic, lol. Awesome! Liberals riot in many American cities with no fear of Chinese virus, awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: You're kidding yourself if you think Trump didn't know in November; if not before that. You think the US really relies on the WHO for its global forecast? And I could care less if Trumpholes like you take me seriously; if facts mattered - you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. I asked you for proof. That’s all I did. My first post to you was a pretty polite question about proof of your claim that Trump ignored November intelligence. Still nothing from you. If facts DO matter to me, then maybe that makes me an honest person. That has nothing to do with supporting Trump. In fact, you said it yourself — facts don’t matter to a Trump supporter. You live in a binary world. Makes sense that you can’t fit facts into your narrative. Sad for you to be so angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump to hold rally during a pandemic, lol. Awesome! Nothing to do with the fact he is an incompetent, racist clown. You actually think he is smarter than Obama? ...but if he held a protest riot or BLM engagement, that works, right?......can we say hypocrite??..... Edited June 13, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but if he held a protess riot or BLM engagement, that works, right?......can we say hypocrite??..... People who cheered protesting, rioting, and looting seem to have no idea how ridiculous they sound now complaining about a rally. I say that those people should take comfort in the "polls" where Biden is beating Trump by at least 50%!! It's gonna be an early night! And let Trump have his small, 300K+ people rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but if he held a protess riot or BLM engagement, that works, right?......can we say hypocrite??..... open air vs inclosed space? huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, snafu said: I asked you for proof. That’s all I did. My first post to you was a pretty polite question about proof of your claim that Trump ignored November intelligence. Still nothing from you. If facts DO matter to me, then maybe that makes me an honest person. That has nothing to do with supporting Trump. In fact, you said it yourself — facts don’t matter to a Trump supporter. You live in a binary world. Makes sense that you can’t fit facts into your narrative. Sad for you to be so angry. I provided links - they will never be good enough for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: open air vs inclosed space? huh? ...so enclosed space means you're snuffed out?......if not, the Orkin Man is looking for pest elimination work....what should I tell him??.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: open air vs inclosed space? huh? What enclosed space is going to hold the 300,000+ amount of people for the rally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You actually think he is smarter than Obama? I'm not sure. Why don't we run a poll in all 57 states to find out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, BillStime said: I provided links - they will never be good enough for you... You provided links from sources no one trusts or believes anymore. They all have zero credibility and simply twist, distort, and provide zero context. If you can't explain yourself without a link, that what Trump did made the damage (we were told 2 million deaths by August btw) worse; the same kind of damage experienced in every country on the planet, then don't bother. Save us the fake news links. I posited legit questions (I left out if Trump screwed up sending seniors to nursing homes) and proof blaming Trump is ridiculous. And I got a meme of Trump and Ivanka in response. I'll leave it to the people to understand whether or not in the middle of the circus of impeachment, an unfounded 3 year impeachment, paralyzed this country into February. Trump could not shutdown the country at that time. Which was the only window a closure could have prevented any spread of the virus.....which btw no other country on the planet closed until March. And Fauci was saying as late as March 8 to go on a cruise. The virus had been on the planet for over 3 months minimum. Suddenly, less then 2 weeks later he went from cruises are fine to "we need to close it all down we need vaccines or life will never be normal!!" Uh huh. Something really stinks about all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, BillStime said: I provided links - they will never be good enough for you... The links you provided didn’t respond to the assertion you made. The one about November, 2019 intelligence that Trump ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You provided links from sources no one trusts or believes anymore. They all have zero credibility and simply twist, distort, and provide zero context. If you can't explain yourself without a link, that what Trump did made the damage (we were told 2 million deaths by August btw) worse; the same kind of damage experienced in every country on the planet, then don't bother. Save us the fake news links. I posited legit questions (I left out if Trump screwed up sending seniors to nursing homes) and proof blaming Trump is ridiculous. And I got a meme of Trump and Ivanka in response. I'll leave it to the people to understand whether or not in the middle of the circus of impeachment, an unfounded 3 year impeachment, paralyzed this country into February. Trump could not shutdown the country at that time. Which was the only window a closure could have prevented any spread of the virus.....which btw no other country on the planet closed until March. And Fauci was saying as late as March 8 to go on a cruise. The virus had been on the planet for over 3 months minimum. Suddenly, less then 2 weeks later he went from cruises are fine to "we need to close it all down we need vaccines or life will never be normal!!" Uh huh. Something really stinks about all of this. You think any network/source that can only handle SUGAR coated Trump news is going to share the truth? LMAO Idiots! Complete idiots here ~ lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: The links you provided didn’t respond to the assertion you made. The one about November, 2019 intelligence that Trump ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: Sounds fair enough. Who were the leaders in NYS who were telling Federal govt that everything was fine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The experts exposed themselves as frauds. The media and leadership exposed themselves as hypocrites. Biggest breach of trust in recent memory for many millions of Americans... There will be a tremendous price to pay for all those people in the end. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, GG said: Sounds fair enough. Who were the leaders in NYS who were telling Federal govt that everything was fine? Who were the leaders in NYS that told the feds; we don't need no stinkin' national guard to deal with NYC rioters? People seem to have a real problem distinguishing what level of government is responsible for what action. It is like they have never read the Constitution or somethin'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 From April 15 to May 15 over 67,000 Americans died. From May 15 to June 13 (same time frame) its about 25,000. Anyone care to explain why this isn't the story on low info news and Twitter? Oh that's right. Gotta keep the economy in the self inflicted tank and blame Trump for it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 20 hours ago, shoshin said: Critical thinking is called for here. You don't go from 40-50 new hospitalizations a day for 3 months to suddenly one in one day. What happens in AZ is probably what happens in PA, and that is that the hospitalization data trails. You can't look at PA hospitalizations within the last 7 days--it's always very low, but gets filled in later. Just an FYI. That's a bunk number from someone not giving it a lot of thought. I am going to follow this. IF @shoshin is right, then the covad hospitalizations will get back populated early next week, right? THen only he can post covatard data updates for 1 week, and Horowitz is banned for ever. If @shoshin is wrong, he needs to apologise to @Big Blitz, and the blitz guy will have responsibility for new updates for one week. Setting a reminder for Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said: I am going to follow this. IF @shoshin is right, then the covad hospitalizations will get back populated early next week, right? THen only he can post covatard data updates for 1 week, and Horowitz is banned for ever. If @shoshin is wrong, he needs to apologise to @Big Blitz, and the blitz guy will have responsibility for new updates for one week. Setting a reminder for Tuesday. Well June 9 is already up to 13 on backfilling the data but I don’t care if he keeps posting. He looks for a narrative and then finds facts to fit it. You can see that is his MO. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php 14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: From April 15 to May 15 over 67,000 Americans died. From May 15 to June 13 (same time frame) its about 25,000. Anyone care to explain why this isn't the story on low info news and Twitter? Oh that's right. Gotta keep the economy in the self inflicted tank and blame Trump for it. Who doesn’t know that deaths are way down? Have you not noticed how many places are reopening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: Well June 9 is already up to 13 on backfilling the data but I don’t care if he keeps posting. He looks for a narrative and then finds facts to fit it. You can see that is his MO. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php I’ve been posting the same numbers from the same source every day for almost two months. Seems like the proper use of the scientific method. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Just posting some humor lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve been posting the same numbers from the same source every day for almost two months. Seems like the proper use of the scientific method. No one was talking to you but OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 SCIENCE: NPR: “Mounting Evidence” Suggests COVID Not As Deadly as Thought. Did the Experts Fail Again? . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 It’s just panic porn. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's clearly obvious where Billstime gets its marching orders from. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: is “The Democrats” a parody account? Can’t imagine anyone having that tenuous a grip on reality. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The experts exposed themselves as frauds. The media and leadership exposed themselves as hypocrites. Biggest breach of trust in recent memory for many millions of Americans... There will be a tremendous price to pay for all those people in the end. Mmhmmm. I thought Trump was a lying fraud. I’m thinking if he wore a mask fewer people would right? All of a sudden he becomes the sayer of what’s right? Oy..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 More panic porn 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 "So dogmatic was the dictate that we all stay at home that any attempt to question or even balance it... was deemed immoral." "Those who questioned state-mandated lockdown and stay-at-home orders, let alone left their homes to actually protest against them, were condemned as sociopaths who were willing to sacrifice the lives of old people for economic prosperity or the trivial, troglodyte desire to go to Applebees. Oftentimes those protesting lockdowns were vilified as white nationalists or at least driven by white racialist sentiments.... How is it remotely within the scope of the expertise of epidemiologists to pick and choose which political protests should be permitted and/or encouraged and which ones banned and/or denounced? Those are plainly political judgments, not scientific ones, and the shoddy, glaring conflation of them is nothing less than a manipulation, an abuse, of public health credentials. For scientists to purport to dictate which citizens can and cannot safely choose to leave their house — based not on health judgments but on their political ideology — is repressive, and certain to erode the credibility of their profession. Yet this is exactly what they are doing: explicitly and shamelessly.... At the very least, it is vital that we have the same health and legal standards apply to all citizens and all political ideologies when it comes to the right to leave one’s home, protest or engage in other legal activities. And at least as importantly, we need to understand whether public health experts were too restrictive in their advocated measures at the start of the pandemic, are being too lax now, or somehow can reconcile the radical shift in their posture on scientific rather than political grounds." From "The Abrupt, Radical Reversal in How Public Health Experts Now Speak About the Coronavirus and Mass Gatherings" by Glenn Greenwald (The Intercept). Posted by Ann Althouse . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 7 hours ago, shoshin said: No one was talking to you but OK. Dude...maybe you’re not aware but this is an Internet chat room! If you want to have private conversations this is not the venue. PS: We know, we know, you’re REALLY concerned about the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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