oldmanfan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Little mistakes in playoff games cost you. One that has not been mentioned was the penalty on Hughes during the sideline scrum after Edmunds’ INT. The Texans got an unsportsmanlike call and if Hughes doesn’t screw up it puts us a lot closer to scoring a TD. The guy is a veteran, but you can almost set your watch by him either getting a dumb Offside or personal foul at the worst times. He had three sacks; great but your veterans have to be the ones to play smart, not dumb. Edited January 6, 2020 by oldmanfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Little mistakes in playoff games cost you. One that has not been mentioned was the penalty on Hughes during the sideline scrum after Edmunds’ INT. The Texans got an unsportsmanlike call and if Hughes doesn’t screw up it puts us a lot closer to scoring a TD. The guy is a veteran, but you can almost set your watch by him either getting a dumb Offside or personal foul at the worst times. He had three sacks; great but your veterans have to be the ones to play smart, not dumb. Hard to believe the Texans only had 4 penalties all game 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Fair point. I would have liked to see the events all the way through though. Typically, a ref would like to penalize the original perpetrator and not throw offsetting flags especially for unsportsmanlike and personal fouls. If Hughes came right in to defend, then I have less problem with him defending a teammate. Grasping the face mask is a poor choice though certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 most likely a BS call on Hughes. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Buffalo committed quite a few stupid costly penalties that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Watch it again. There was no PF there. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 how many times has a holding call been against hughs? by his interaction with the refs in the past its prob good odds that hughs is a marked man who is watched like a hawk and never given a deserved call but i dont have the numbers. would be interested to know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I just assumed Hughes did nothing and the refs chose him as a scapegoat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Texans had 0 penalties during live play. Plus, Hughes didn’t do anything tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'll have to watch it again but saw Hughes mill around the periphery of the scrum then reach into the pile. I knew he was going to get flagged. It looked like he threw several punches but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Didn't see a replay of the penalty. For all we know, he was penalized for patting a teammate on the helmet, like in the New England game a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Hard to believe the Texans only had 4 penalties all game Actually, it’s not if you’re a Bills fan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Rewatched it, didn't see anything. The more I look, the more crappy calls I see... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Hard to believe the Texans only had 4 penalties all game And two of those were intentional delay of game calls, as they wanted to back up a little to give their punter more room. I agree that it's absolutely mind numbing that Hou had no holding calls called on them all day...offensive or defensive.....considering that most NFL watchers agree that holding occurs on every single NFL play, somewhere on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Little mistakes in playoff games cost you. One that has not been mentioned was the penalty on Hughes during the sideline scrum after Edmunds’ INT. The Texans got an unsportsmanlike call and if Hughes doesn’t screw up it puts us a lot closer to scoring a TD. The guy is a veteran, but you can almost set your watch by him either getting a dumb Offside or personal foul at the worst times. He had three sacks; great but your veterans have to be the ones to play smart, not dumb. He was also held and tackled on the 3rd&18 play and as usual no flag. It's time to move on from Jerry. He's been flagged for dumb penalties his whole career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Little mistakes in playoff games cost you. One that has not been mentioned was the penalty on Hughes during the sideline scrum after Edmunds’ INT. The Texans got an unsportsmanlike call and if Hughes doesn’t screw up it puts us a lot closer to scoring a TD. The guy is a veteran, but you can almost set your watch by him either getting a dumb Offside or personal foul at the worst times. He had three sacks; great but your veterans have to be the ones to play smart, not dumb. Did you see what he did? No? Ok, then stop. You have no clue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffarukus said: how many times has a holding call been against hughs? by his interaction with the refs in the past its prob good odds that hughs is a marked man who is watched like a hawk and never given a deserved call but i dont have the numbers. would be interested to know. This! He, above everyone else, has to play clean. But he can’t help himself. And I don’t hate that either. He’s probably a great teammate. Everyone on that team knows he gets after people, guys like that are great in a fight. But man does he have to be smart. I remember watching him dig into the pile, and I said “here it comes, personal foul” and sure enough. He just couldn’t stand by and watch his guy get piled on. So he grabbed a guys face mask to get them off the pile. 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Did you see what he did? No? Ok, then stop. You have no clue He reached into the pile and grabbed a Texans player by the face mask. The on field mics picked up the ref saying “face mask 55” before he made the call. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: This! He, above everyone else, has to play clean. But he can’t help himself. And I don’t hate that either. He’s probably a great teammate. Everyone on that team knows he gets after people, guys like that are great in a fight. But man does he have to be smart. I remember watching him dig into the pile, and I said “here it comes, personal foul” and sure enough. He just couldn’t stand by and watch his guy get piled on. So he grabbed a guys face mask to get them off the pile. He reached into the pile and grabbed a Texans player by the face mask. The on field mics picked up the ref saying “face mask 55” before he made the call. I was pretty drunk, I didn’t notice that. Did they show him reach in and grab a fade mask on film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) The broadcast camera showed him run to the pile, and reach in. You couldn’t see what he was doing, but like i said, the onfield mics picked up the referee talking with someone saying “face mask 55”. Edited January 6, 2020 by RobbRiddicksTDLeap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Fixxxer said: most likely a BS call on Hughes. He's notorious for getting BS calls ever since the ref incident a few years back. It was hard to see what was happening in the scrum, but it didn't look like Hughes was in the middle of it. More like he stepped in for a second and the ref threw the flag on him, despite whatever everyone else was doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 If you want to get upset about BS officiating, focus on the second half kickoff. When the player fields the ball in the end zone, it has to be downed to kill the play. In this instance, the player flips a live ball forward toward the Referee making it an illegal forward pass in the end zone. The whistle was not blown because the Referee knew it was still a live ball. As the player began to flip the ball toward the Referee, the Ref raised his hand to indicate to the player not to throw him the ball. The referee let the ball fall to the ground and roll. An illegal forward pass among other various offensive penalties committed in the end zone results in a safety. The Bills should have been awarded 2 points and received a free kick. Instead, Houston was awarded the ball at their 25 yard line because some officials thought that the kick returner intended to kill the play even though he didn't do it according to the rules. It is not the role of the officials to determine the intentions of the player. In this case, all they needed to determine was whether he downed the ball or he didn't. Review of the video clearly shows that he didn't. The correct interpretation of the play would have changed the entire second half. Forget the penalties on Hughes and Cody Ford. The real travesty was the blown call on this kickoff. McD should have gone off the rails when the officials made this interpretation but he didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Hard to believe the Texans only had 4 penalties all game It went the way Goodell wanted it to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: This! He, above everyone else, has to play clean. But he can’t help himself. And I don’t hate that either. He’s probably a great teammate. Everyone on that team knows he gets after people, guys like that are great in a fight. But man does he have to be smart. I remember watching him dig into the pile, and I said “here it comes, personal foul” and sure enough. He just couldn’t stand by and watch his guy get piled on. So he grabbed a guys face mask to get them off the pile. He reached into the pile and grabbed a Texans player by the face mask. The on field mics picked up the ref saying “face mask 55” before he made the call. Given his history with the referees you would think that Hughes would have the good sense to stay away from that situation given the circumstances. You knew he would be flagged as soon as he approached the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Whatever, he's better than Kelvin Shepard (who we traded for him, straight up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: He was also held and tackled on the 3rd&18 play and as usual no flag. It's time to move on from Jerry. He's been flagged for dumb penalties his whole career. He is the last part of the stank. Ive been saying this for years and laughed at. HE IS ON THE REFEREES BLACK LIST. He gets stupid penalties ( whether deserved or not ). He goes invisible for many games but hey..everyone pushed that new PRESSURE STAT that he was highly ranked at last year. Get rid of the stank Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, blizzardman said: Watch it again. There was no PF there. plus if edmunds picks up ball and starts running instead of just falling on it might have scored who know. Would have, could have, should haves alot of those and what if penalty not called or called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Little mistakes in playoff games cost you. One that has not been mentioned was the penalty on Hughes during the sideline scrum after Edmunds’ INT. The Texans got an unsportsmanlike call and if Hughes doesn’t screw up it puts us a lot closer to scoring a TD. The guy is a veteran, but you can almost set your watch by him either getting a dumb Offside or personal foul at the worst times. He had three sacks; great but your veterans have to be the ones to play smart, not dumb. did you see what he did? I didn't and no one else seems to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, nucci said: did you see what he did? I didn't and no one else seems to know From what I've read he pulled a guy's face mask. Hard to actually see it with all the players in the area. He doesn't do that, they get their unsportsmanlike and we're on like the 15 yard line. Hughes does this a lot; when is it reasonable to expect a veteran to act like a veteran? Lee Smith is similar; a vet but you can count on him committing dumb penalties at the worst time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I was actually pretty amazed at how FEW of the typical Offside penalties Hughes got this year. In past seasons he was good for at least one a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Opposing player hit our player late. Jerry defended him. Good job Jerry. Everyone complains when Tre was hit by Gronk and nobody did anything, now our player is hit late and someone does something and people are complaining. Smh 15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I was actually pretty amazed at how FEW of the typical Offside penalties Hughes got this year. In past seasons he was good for at least one a week. They started to realize it was actually the offensive lineman moving first. Now if they can understand what holding is we will be in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hughes had an absolutely phenomenal game. Any criticism of him for this game is completely unwarranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Hard to believe the Texans only had 4 penalties all game No it isn't. The NFL told them the Texans win this game hence the complete Bullshyt call on block in the back and letting the Texans offense get the snapboff a full second after the playclock was at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 He must be the player most on the Ref's Revenge List I've ever seen, in any sport. WTH did he do? I'm sure it was more in the past than now too. The Refs should NOT have personal agendas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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