Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 They experienced an anomaly, getting a QB like Brady with a 6th rd pick is a once every 300 year event. It’s time to pay the percentage gods and suck for 20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: They experienced an anomaly, getting a QB like Brady with a 6th rd pick is a once every 300 year event. It’s time to pay the percentage gods and suck for 20 years. 20 years is far far too kind. I was thinking 200 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: I'd never watch the Bills again. Why? How silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Nope. Brady was still Brady back then and Garapolo was going to have his rookie deal expire. Belichick always let's his stars go before their done. I think he wanted to keep Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Nope none- he is in absolute decline. He must come to grips. I’m not sure if he’ll be worth whatever he got last year. He’s not worth paying like the top QB’s anymore. He missed his window for asking for top dollar, but I’m shedding no tears for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Raiders? I think John Gruden would be all-in on getting Brady. I could see Gruden wanting Brady, not so sure the Raiders would interest Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Nope. Brady was still Brady back then and Garapolo was going to have his rookie deal expire. But there were people in that building who thought they should move on. I am not as sure as some media were at the time that Belichick was among them but there were those (on the personnel side) saying "This kid can play and Brady is 40 shouldn't we at least think about this?" Brady heard it went to Kraft and the instruction came from the top "move Jimmy G". They gave him away in comparison to what they could have got. A young non threatening rebuilding NFC team was the perfect place for him to be sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Putin said: The only logical place imo is the chargers Dont see it Gisselle hates the west coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You saw the shape he's in. You think he can do that a year older? I’m not saying it’s a good idea. It was a joke. But if your asking me who would give us a better chance to win: Brady current day, even in a severe decline or Josh Allen? I’m not even going to answer. The guy is literally the greatest QB in NFL history and even in his “down year” threw for more yards then any Bills QB did in their prime. With no WRs. He’s way, way past his great years and probably just about done. (And I was just playing around anyway) But a motivated Brady next year will still be very dangerous. Hopefully he finally leaves the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: 7-9 so they stay in QB purgatory lol No 1-15 plants that losing culture deep, I want to see that sequoia grow to the sky but you need deep losing roots for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Why? How silly Bench your future for a 43 yr old QB whom every Bills fan should hate? Not really that silly in my mind. If Allen is our QB he plays if not find a young replacement in FA or the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Please explain in detail where your understanding comes from? Mike Florio wrote and article on new years day about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 So what's the going rate for a 42 year old wild card round losing QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He’s going to be 43 years old, it’s not like he’s going to get a record breaking deal anywhere. I think he looked like crap this year. Even with his TB 12 vitamins with Dolphin ***** he looked old, tired and not into it. ^ this. Why would anyone sign him for big money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: Mike Florio wrote and article on new years day about it. Well I'm not expecting anything drastic from the NFL. They probably feel losing to Tennessee is punishment enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I still have a feeling McDanials takes Brady with him to Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Dont see it Gisselle hates the west coast She wouldn't have to move there. Brady has what, 1 or 2 years left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: Bench your future for a 43 yr old QB whom every Bills fan should hate? Not really that silly in my mind. If Allen is our QB he plays if not find a young replacement in FA or the draft. I mean, I was joking. It would never happen. But it’s not just a rando 43 year old. It’s the most accomplished player in NFL history. If he was on the Bills, why would you not watch? What if they were winning and ended up with a championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Kraft will never let him go to another team. That's why Garapolo is in SF. Why do people keep saying this. Brady had just signed a 2 year extension. It would have cost them 17+ million in dead cap if they traded him.and the franchise tag for garrapolo would have been 24 million for a back up. Wasnt happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Chris66 said: My understanding it will probably just be a cash fine or a very low round pick. Of course it will. Not like they’ve been caught doing this among a number of other things year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Doesn’t want to take a hometown discount...alil late...your career is essentially over, that big contract stuff is done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Guaranteed dirtbag Kraft was paying Brady under the table the remainder of the $$$$$$ that Brady wasn’t get paid and masking it as a discount. I don’t think Brady would that amount of money on the table. Kraft Corporation I’m sure was somehow in business with Giselle’s company. These people are scum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 He waited a bit too long to try using this leverage. He is a middle of the pack QB now and not worth the big contract he could have demanded a few years ago. He may get $20 million for another season or 2, but there is no 3 year, $100 million type deal coming anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean, I was joking. It would never happen. But it’s not just a rando 43 year old. It’s the most accomplished player in NFL history. If he was on the Bills, why would you not watch? What if they were winning and ended up with a championship? Signing Brady means you done with JA which I don't agree with at all. Now if your done with JA and sign Brady you need to get another 1-2nd rd rookie QB to develop behind Brady. I won't stick around for that non-sense that will get this FO and entire staff fired. I personally think Brady is done and has nothing to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Why do people keep saying this. Brady had just signed a 2 year extension. It would have cost them 17+ million in dead cap if they traded him.and the franchise tag for garrapolo would have been 24 million for a back up. Wasnt happening. Patriots fans probably would know that, Bills fans could give a *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Guaranteed dirtbag Kraft was paying Brady under the table the remainder of the $$$$$$ that Brady wasn’t get paid and masking it as a discount. I don’t think Brady would that amount of money on the table. Kraft Corporation I’m sure was somehow in business with Giselle’s company. These people are scum. Lies, Brady earned that $10 million contract for working the night shift at the Gillette razor factory, fair and square. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Guaranteed dirtbag Kraft was paying Brady under the table the remainder of the $$$$$$ that Brady wasn’t get paid and masking it as a discount. I don’t think Brady would that amount of money on the table. Kraft Corporation I’m sure was somehow in business with Giselle’s company. These people are scum. I’m 100% sure this was happing and it would be one of my top 10 questions I would ask Brady for the lie detector test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 So Brady will just ask for exclusive TB12 advertising rights, physical therapy exclusives, and some other non payroll revenue so it’s off the salary cap like before right ?? #cheatriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Chris66 said: 1 year 15 tops. Rather them go 1-15 and draft Trevor Lawrence. How does a Belicheck***** team go 1-15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Dont resign the mcourty's. Cut some players for cap savings and run with Stidham. 1-15 can be done easily. 1-15 without Brady? Guess that wouldn't say much for the "greatest coach of all time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I’m 100% sure this was happing and it would be one of my top 10 questions I would ask Brady for the lie detector test. Im sure the whole NFL and all fans have thought this. Makes absolutely no sense any major star in any sport to do this, and no other player has. And now at the age of 43 he won’t give the hometown discount? Please! Kraft and NE are already proven cheaters over and over again. I’m 100% this is the case. Edited January 6, 2020 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: They can sign Dalton and not miss a beat. At first I balked at this suggestion, but now I think you may be right. They managed to win plenty of games with Brady playing pretty mediocre. Dalton has been mediocre, but with Belichick he would surely improve. They wouldn't have the "Brady Magic" to work with, but they would be a formidable team, that would still be a playoff team, if not a Super Bowl contender. Edited January 6, 2020 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, Mango said: He has some. There is no heir apparent and they pick in the low 20’s. I probably pony up for one more year if I am the Pats, and do whatever it takes to get near the top of the draft this year. Say what? Word is they love Stidham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, wppete said: Im sure the whole NFL and all fans have thought this. Makes absolutely no sense any major star in any sport to do this, and no other player has. And now at the age of 43 he won’t give the hometown discount? Please! Kraft and NE are already proven cheaters over and over again. I’m 100% this is the case. At that time Brady was making 16 or 17 mil while other QB’s were making 28 to 30+. It’s one of those things you know is happing its just how do you prove it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) His play declined this year Remember: in the Superbowl he threw 0 TD and 1 INT and scored 13 points Against the Titans he threw 1 INT 0 TD and scored 13 points. Some blame the supporting cast but last year he had Gronk and a healthy Edelman and had the same result. This year he was missing throws and panicking under pressure. He was also banged up. None of that gets better at age 43. If NE has to pay him the going rate of 25-30 million they are going to have to let other guys walk. Edited January 6, 2020 by TheFunPolice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: 1-15 without Brady? Guess that wouldn't say much for the "greatest coach of all time." There's no way Belichick would agree to tank. NO WAY. And there is no reason they cannot be pretty damn good with another QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How does a Belicheck***** team go 1-15? “On purpose” is the only response I can think of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Don't forget the expected "punishment" for the Cincinnati video. Why not? Odds are the league has..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: At that time Brady was making 16 or 17 mil while other QB’s were making 28 to 30+. It’s one of those things you know is happing its just how do you prove it. It really is mind blowing that this is not a major story. Just goes to show that the NFL at the highest levels is all a production. How has no other owner GM or Coach not call Kraft and Bellichick out on this. Amazing! Edited January 6, 2020 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 There is a lot to consider: - Kraft's willingness to part with Brady, who is like a son to him. - Belichick's willingness to preside over a rebuild with Stidham or some other young QB. - The team's internal belief about Stidham. - Whether McDaniels gets a HC job - he is probably the first domino to drop since he'll be interviewing this week. - Brady's pride - would he take a discount? - The plausibility of resigning Brady at a $$ amount he is happy with as well as completely retooling the skill players on offense, along with a new offensive coordinator. They have nothing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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