SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tom-brady-wild-card-titans-061443517.html FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — Wearing a dark winter hat on his head and a mix of disappointment and frustration across his face, Tom Brady reacted to Tennessee’s 20-13 wild-card game victory over New England here by doing what he’s done better than any other quarterback in the history of the game. He threw the ball ... in this case, right into the decision-making court of Patriots owner Robert Kraft and coach Bill Belichick. At least that’s how it sounded. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28427728/bill-belichick-says-now-not-discuss-tom-brady-future-patriots Bill Belichick says now not the time to discuss Tom Brady's future with Patriots FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- New England Patriotscoach Bill Belichick acknowledged Sunday morning that Tom Brady is "an iconic figure in this organization," but said now isn't the time to address Brady's future with the franchise. In a season-ending news conference about 12 hours after the Patriots were eliminated from the playoffs in a 20-13 loss to the Tennessee Titans, Belichick added that "nobody respects Tom more than I do," but mostly deflected questions on the topic. "I'm sure there are a lot of questions about the future. Nobody has thought about the future," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I just want NE and all their existence to go away for 30 years. I don't care how it happens. 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Not the time to talk about it now they've got to focus on next we-....? 4 1 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I just want NE and all their existence to go away for 30 years. I don't care how it happens. 30? That is too generous. I want 100 at a minimum. Most people in Bean Town won't care as it will be about the Sox, Bruins, and Celtics like it was for many decades prior to 2001. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bobby May have to choose between Brady and Belicheat. I think Belicheat will want to move on fromTommy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 And you expected.....what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Their defense is very good. I don't think BB wants a shell of his former self Tom Brady to stay as a game manager and make the offense weak. BB is all about attacking, on both sides of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 They’ve also only got about $40/50m in cap space without TB, and a bunch of other guys to re-sign. Extra comp picks, but no 2nd rounder (and I’ve seen some say no 4 or 5 either), and that also means not likely to get too much immediate help from the draft. i could honestly see them going 8-8 or worse next year, whether he stays or goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Really different levels of expectation in patriot land. 11-5 season, playoff loss and the season is viewed as a dismal failure to move on from. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: Really different levels of expectation in patriot land. 11-5 season, playoff loss and the season is viewed as a dismal failure to move on from. Amazing. Much different from some in Bills land? 10-6 season, playoff loss, and plenty seem to view this season as a dismal failure. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 30? That is too generous. I want 100 at a minimum. Most people in Bean Town won't care as it will be about the Sox, Bruins, and Celtics like it was for many decades prior to 2001. Honestly they are great baseball fans and historically not much else. I've seen cycles where either the Bruins or Celtics were bad and their arena was a morgue. With the Sox they are thick and thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 You cant win it every year. There were a lot of bad teams on the schedule this year. They beat up on the sisters of the poor and lost to almost every good team they faced. 10-1 to 2-4 down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Honestly they are great baseball fans and historically not much else. I've seen cycles where either the Bruins or Celtics were bad and their arena was a morgue. With the Sox they are thick and thin. I'm just passing along the anecdotes of a few dozen people I knew from the NE states. I remember the Bears-Patriots SB back in 1985 while I was at college and the few Boston area students went to the library to study versus watch the game. If it were the Bruins or Celts in a championship game they would have stayed at the student residence to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I'm just passing along the anecdotes of a few dozen people I knew from the NE states. I remember the Bears-Patriots SB back in 1985 while I was at college and the few Boston area students went to the library to study versus watch the game. If it were the Bruins or Celts in a championship game they would have stayed at the student residence to watch. It used to be that way. Remember the Pats are the baby brother to the other 3 major sports teams. Now the Pats are the number 1 team and it isnt even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I'm just passing along the anecdotes of a few dozen people I knew from the NE states. I remember the Bears-Patriots SB back in 1985 while I was at college and the few Boston area students went to the library to study versus watch the game. If it were the Bruins or Celts in a championship game they would have stayed at the student residence to watch. Obviously the Celtics are a historically great franchise; arguably the best of the 4 over the long haul. They went through a prolonged cycle of bad some time after Bird. Empty building. It shocked me. You could argue that until the last 15 or so years that the Sox were the least successful overall but they were always supported as much as I can remember. That is a baseball town and I've never minded Sox fans. The same people turn into morons when rooting for the cheats or B's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 BB's ego is MASSIVE. I have little doubt that he's ready to cut ties and try to show the world that he can do it w/ Stidham, or anyone. I'm loving it. That team looked terrible yesterday - they're old, and losing a bunch of good players & coaches this offseason. At long last, it seems like they are headed for a lengthy (and hopefully frustrating) rebuild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 90% yuppies in that fan base, if the Patriots suck for even two years they will be forgotten by the Yups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I just want NE and all their existence to go away for 30 years. I don't care how it happens. They will turn back into the pumpkins they were before the cheaters took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Obviously the Celtics are a historically great franchise; arguably the best of the 4 over the long haul. They went through a prolonged cycle of bad some time after Bird. Empty building. It shocked me. You could argue that until the last 15 or so years that the Sox were the least successful overall but they were always supported as much as I can remember. That is a baseball town and I've never minded Sox fans. The same people turn into morons when rooting for the cheats or B's. The Celtics are only considered great because they ran up the 'ship tally at a time when the league was half of what it is today. They've only won 1 title in the past 30 years. Sox fans were basically Bills fans for 100 years. I can't rue them their success over the past 2 decades. But that's probably over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chris66 said: It used to be that way. Remember the Pats are the baby brother to the other 3 major sports teams. Now the Pats are the number 1 team and it isnt even close. Not when the weather changes. They simply don't have the history of the Sox C's or even Bruins. Ted Williams, one of the greatest of all times retired before the cheaters existed. Show me two 6-10 seasons in a row and we'll see who ranks. Spoiler alert:. It's the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Success said: BB's ego is MASSIVE. I have little doubt that he's ready to cut ties and try to show the world that he can do it w/ Stidham, or anyone. I'm loving it. That team looked terrible yesterday - they're old, and losing a bunch of good players & coaches this offseason. At long last, it seems like they are headed for a lengthy (and hopefully frustrating) rebuild. You can turnover a roster pretty quick in todays nfl. Just look at Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Success said: But that's probably over now. Your lips to God's ears. GO YANKS. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Bobby May have to choose between Brady and Belicheat. I think Belicheat will want to move on fromTommy. He wanted to with Garrapolo. Kraft wouldn’t stand for that. Not with his Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Honestly they are great baseball fans and historically not much else. I've seen cycles where either the Bruins or Celtics were bad and their arena was a morgue. With the Sox they are thick and thin. I lived there for three years, including the first super bowl. I'd argue it's a hockey town too, they play a great college hockey tournament every year that people get fired up over. But yeah, that playoff win vs the Raiders and subsequent run took everyone by surprise. Nobody gave a crap about the Patriots before that, except for a very few. Today, everyone claims to have been a diehard Pats fan since 1776, yet they can't name any players prior to 2000 not named Bledsoe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: You can turnover a roster pretty quick in todays nfl. Just look at Baltimore. Yeah, but the Pats probably won't. It's been a nice long run, but last night felt like they closed the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Success said: The Celtics are only considered great because they ran up the 'ship tally at a time when the league was half of what it is today. They've only won 1 title in the past 30 years. Sox fans were basically Bills fans for 100 years. I can't rue them their success over the past 2 decades. But that's probably over now. Well, there is no denying Bill Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 All 3 of these guys must have egos the size of Gillette stadium. How would it be possible that both Brady and Belichick wouldn’t want to prove they can win without the other? They have to want to break free and win on their own? Don’t they? What else do they have to prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Boatdrinks said: He wanted to with Garrapolo. Kraft wouldn’t stand for that. Not with his Tommy. People keep saying that, but it isnt true. They tried signing jimmy g to a bridge deal but he turned it down. They couldnt get rid of brady because it would have been a 17 million cap hit. Trading garrapolo was really the only option. 3 minutes ago, Success said: Yeah, but the Pats probably won't. It's been a nice long run, but last night felt like they closed the book. Why wouldnt they. They have a pretty good amount of picks. 40 mill in cap space. BB has retooled the roster with less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chris66 said: People keep saying that, but it isnt true. They tried signing jimmy g to a bridge deal but he turned it down. They couldnt get rid of brady because it would have been a 17 million cap hit. Trading garrapolo was really the only option. Why wouldnt they. They have a pretty good amount of picks. 40 mill in cap space. BB has retooled the roster with less. BB has been fortunate to have Brady on the roster. Brady bails out quite a few average rosters. BB the drafter does not scare me, one bit. The rest of the AFCE is catching up fast. I don't see the Patriots winning that division in the years ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chris66 said: People keep saying that, but it isnt true. They tried signing jimmy g to a bridge deal but he turned it down. They couldnt get rid of brady because it would have been a 17 million cap hit. Trading garrapolo was really the only option. Why wouldnt they. They have a pretty good amount of picks. 40 mill in cap space. BB has retooled the roster with less. 40 million with no qb and players to sign they have problems to improve the offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Success said: BB has been fortunate to have Brady on the roster. Brady bails out quite a few average rosters. BB the drafter does not scare me, one bit. The rest of the AFCE is catching up fast. I don't see the Patriots winning that division in the years ahead. Not sure about that.BB could win the afce on coaching alone. Not worried about Gase or McDermott. Flores on the other hand might be one to watch out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: Not sure about that.BB could win the afce on coaching alone. Not worried about Gase or McDermott. Flores on the other hand might be one to watch out for. They used to say the same thing about Shula. But he got old & the game passed him by. BB hasn't looked all that genius-like lately. Some very poor-gameplanning overall, and some of the in-game decisions are headscratchers. Nah....it's over. Good run, though. Enjoy the DVD's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Not sure about that.BB could win the afce on coaching CHEATING alone. Not worried about Gase or McDermott. Flores on the other hand might be one to watch out for. FIFY! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Bobby May have to choose between Brady and Belicheat. I think Belicheat will want to move on fromTommy. As he should. Brady is done and Kraft is a fool forcing a trade of Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hopefully they lose another draft pick or 2 for the Cincinnati filming. To make it even more difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: 90% yuppies in that fan base, if the Patriots suck for even two years they will be forgotten by the Yups. It's actually about 40% yuppie. 40% squidbilly from maine, etc. And 20% old working class Lowell types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 they will toss Brady to the side like he's nothing and I won't care one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Ya know, lost in all of the giddy celebration about the Pats demise is the fact that the most obnoxious opposing player in my lifetime had the choke play of the year by dropping that 3rd down pass from Brady - which was right on the #'s. Nice goin', Edelman. Made the evening that much more glorious. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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