Buffbills716 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I wasn’t getting paid millions of dollars to win football games. Josh looked like a 16 year old out there. The stage was so big it enveloped him. I have put heat on Allen all season. But in this case, if Daboll/McD had managed the game better, the stage would not have seemed so big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The fact that Carlos Hyde out carried Singletary is disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Daboll at times like the first quarter calls the game the way that meshes best with Allen's play style ...I don't know why we continually go away from that and go back to empty sets where Allen has to scan the field it's not a strength at this stage of his career ..I've said this before I just think he's the wrong oc for Allen if u want to get the most out of him you need to design an offence for him the way the Ravens have with Jackson ..trying to turn him into a disciplined pocket passer who makes the correct reads against exotic blitzes is when he does things like pirouettes into massive sacks and etc . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, NoSaint said: how you think we can evaluate play calling while josh was COMPLETELY out of control for a large bit of that is beyond me. with dabs in the box I’m curious who Allen’s “guy” is on the sidelines to manage his emotions It wasn’t hard to evaluate imo. When your QB is struggling and you don’t run? He was epically bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Buffbills716 said: I have put heat on Allen all season. But in this case, if Daboll/McD had managed the game better, the stage would not have seemed so big. They got the kid a 16 point lead. He managed to phantom fumble untouched, throw two near pick sixes, and then melt down. An intentional grounding and then a 20 yard sack? He’s not a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Gotta protect the anointed one... deflect deflect deflect. Daboll will be the whipping boy. I get that Allen was doing things that were just outrageous out there but do you really think Daboll called a goiod game in the 2nd half? That QB run that lost yards to begin the OT drive was something I just couldn't believe or want to. I thought he had a brilliant 1st half, it was like he could do no wrong but he had one of the worst 2nd half play calling that I've seen in quite some time imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: ***** Josh Allen. Guy looked like a Wyoming QB way over his head for half of the game. He needed his dad to tell him to chill the ***** out. ***** @BringBackOrton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Let’s throw long to #42. Please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Most of the Bills fans deserve Tyrod Taylor. I'm sure the Bills can get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Can the Pegulas pay the Browns to hire Daboll? Is that allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Dabs called an awful second half and in OT played like we were pressed for time! Please Cleveland you can have him as your next HC. Allen was, at times, doing things that were completely stupid. On to the off-season. Completely stupid? Allen is a train wreck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 How much more proof that Daboll is holding back this Offense is required at this point? He’s a mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Allen folded and did things that I cant fathom he is what he is. do amazing things and headscratchers. i really think he gets into a mode where he truley believes he and he alone must make plays or we lose. they have to get that out of him. believe it or not giving it to your dump isnt a bad thing. watson won the game with one. a guy breaks a tackle and thats a first down. if not you live another day. but overall he HAS to get situational awareness. waay to often this season he doesnt seem to know when and where he cannot under any circumstance take a sack. but that leads to the original point where he feels like the game is completely on his shoulders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: How much more proof that Daboll is holding back this Offense is required at this point? He’s a mess Honestly I think Dabol is making Lemonade out of lemons. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I say we offer Cleveland a second to take Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Daboll threw Allen under the bus in OT. Empty set all passing all slow developing deep routes . Nobody blocking, it looked like the Texans in the first half. QB sweep was a great calll but three Bills OL blocked nobody Morse sucks totally whiffed on the end. In the first half when they were moving the ball we run Gore to stifle momentum and waste a down. Dont even get me started on our "elite" defense How do you allow a 3rd and 18 conversion on a checkdown? That is bush league as was Milano's tackle attempt on that last checkdown that was the dagger 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: It wasn’t hard to evaluate imo. When your QB is struggling and you don’t run? He was epically bad You still have to play to win and that includes passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MrSarcasm said: Honestly I think Dabol is making Lemonade out of lemons. ? There’s enough talent of this team to score more than 16-17 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Replace Dabol with Allen, and yes, you're right. He was making some of the most boneheaded plays he's made all years, failed to capitalize on countless opportunities, couldn't hit easy passes, and totally shrunk in the big moment. Had absolutely nothing to do with Dabol, but I knew going into this game that if Allen played like he usually does Dabol would get the blame, he always does when Josh plays bad. He hit Duke with a perfect TD pass, dropped. He hit John Brown at the 3, but he hopped like a leprechaun rather than dragging his feet. Game shouldn't have been close. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In the first half I was nervous about losing daboll because the play calls and run game was so strong. Second half you couldn't haul that dumpster out of here any faster after the play choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How much more proof that Daboll is holding back this Offense is required at this point? He’s a mess Evidently another wasted season from some of the board I'm with you he sucks and McDermott needs to re evaluate his coaching philosophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: They got the kid a 16 point lead. He managed to phantom fumble untouched, throw two near pick sixes, and then melt down. An intentional grounding and then a 20 yard sack? He’s not a winner. I think he is our franchise QB and will be fine one they get him some play makers at WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How much more proof that Daboll is holding back this Offense is required at this point? He’s a mess I think he lost his head in the second half as much as Allen tbh. There were some shocking calls for a team that prides itself in playing sound situationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Niagara Dude said: I think he is our franchise QB and will be fine one they get him some play makers at WR Yeah that was the difference today. Josh gets a better WR and he stops throwing jump balls to FB’s or lateraling with 59 seconds on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Daboll threw Allen under the bus in OT. Empty set all passing all slow developing deep routes . Nobody blocking, it looked like the Texans in the first half. QB sweep was a great calll but three Bills OL blocked nobody Morse sucks totally whiffed on the end. In the first half when they were moving the ball we run Gore to stifle momentum and waste a down. Dont even get me started on our "elite" defense How do you allow a 3rd and 18 conversion on a checkdown? That is bush league as was Milano's tackle attempt on that last checkdown that was the dagger Morse does NOT suck. He had a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoBills! said: In the first half I was nervous about losing daboll because the play calls and run game was so strong. Second half you couldn't haul that dumpster out of here any faster after the play choices. McDermott probably told him dont put our 80 point lead at risk We played scared with that lead I felt it before Texans scored that first td My wife says I was being negative Nah its 20+ years of trash meltdowns ever since the Music City Miracle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: He hit Duke with a perfect TD pass, dropped. He hit John Brown at the 3, but he hopped like a leprechaun rather than dragging his feet. Game shouldn't have been close. That was the game, I was thinking how those plays would come back to haunt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Yeah that was the difference today. Josh gets a better WR and he stops throwing jump balls to FB’s or lateraling with 59 seconds on the clock. His most effective receiver was Duke, get him some reveivers with some size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: Morse does NOT suck. He had a great game. one block and were kicking a fg He ran right be the D end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Niagara Dude said: His most effective receiver was Duke, get him some reveivers with some size. Explain the lateral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I think he lost his head in the second half as much as Allen tbh. There were some shocking calls for a team that prides itself in playing sound situationally. when needed most, Daboll was seen to be an empty cupboard. He’s perfect fir the Browns fir a season or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just typical bills football nothing to see here. The entire team is to blame for that L including the coaches 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, dakrider said: That was the game, I was thinking how those plays would come back to haunt them. I thought with better receivers we win this game Edited January 5, 2020 by Niagara Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Niagara Dude said: His most effective receiver was Duke, get him some reveivers with some size. if nothing else they change their philosophy and add sizable wrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Explain the lateral. He was trying to get it out of bounds to stop the clock which he did, since we had no time outs it worked out quite well in our favor so let that go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: one block and were kicking a fg He ran right be the D end Iirc the TE missed the block but could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 You can blame execution too.. Daboll dialed up a QB sweep that goes for at least 10 yards, putting us in FG range to win the game, if ONE of our THREE blockers in front of Allen decides to block the ONE linebacker. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Explain the lateral. Trying to do too much Stupid play, but if he connected to Knox we'd have hailed him as a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I wasn’t getting paid millions of dollars to win football games. Josh looked like a 16 year old out there. The stage was so big it enveloped him. Exactly, you weren't and are never have been in his situation. so instead of looking negatively on this, lets look at the positive. he is young, first playoff game and will learn from it. The whole team will grow from this. We exceeded expectations this year. Lets stop acting like you or majority of people in the same situation would do better. It is highly annoying how people continue to fail at looking at the big picture and instead feel like their opinion or the matters they are speaking of is of the highest importance. It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, DuckyBoys said: if nothing else they change their philosophy and add sizable wrs I think that is the answer, bigger receivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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