Bills at Texans Playoff Game, Saturday 4:35 pm

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBill963 said:

Wow! The fact that we were not only in this game but also should have won even w josh getting hurt is mind blowing. Between the refs w multiple game changing calls against us, bad bounces, about 5 sacks that Watson somehow escaped, Josh getting injured, wow. 

 

If this team shows up to play Saturday we could blow them the F*** out. And I never really get a feeling like that. With this one I do. 

Watson was hurt I believe and they were pretty flat. Yes the Bills hung in there and really should of taken advantage of the situation and won. Alas Peter(PAN)man came in and threw up interceptions for everyone to have!

 

I don’t think last years game has much to do with this years game at all.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Reed83HOF]

 

[eball]

If the Bills were ever going to jump out on a team early, this is the week to do it.  Houston has a bad recent history of home playoff losses and don't think that won't get into their heads if the Bills can get up by a couple of scores.  Add the fact that I expect a lot of Bills fans in that stadium.

[Figster]

1 hour ago, gregor7777 said:

Which metric are you using to say Duke is better than Foster?

 

Duke for the most part became Barkleys go to guy vs the Jets.

 

Foster has had his moments, but very few and far between.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

5 minutes ago, Figster said:

Duke for the most part became Barkleys go to guy vs the Jets.

 

Foster has had his moments, but very few and far between.

Those aren't metrics....

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Facebook of McDermott Interview

 

Joe ain't just a kiddin.  He made the reporters ask individually about players.  Like pulling teeth.

 

Twitter link

 

 

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, John in Jax said:

Not sure if this has been posted in this thread yet, but I just read a story on espn.com about the playoffs, and out of the 12 teams, the Bills are given the lowest chance (only .5 %, yes, not even 1%) to reach, not win, the SB. Those are lllllloooonnnngggggg odds! Lol

 

Our odds are the same as the other 7 teams playing next week. Championships are won on the field.

 

on a side note, whoever thought up this odds thing is a genius.  They're ALWAYS right. If Buffalo wins S B they can say, well, I told you there was a .5% chance they would. If not, they can say, well, odds were 99.5 against them winning.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

49 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

Press conference link on Twitter

 

 

[Figster]

23 minutes ago, gregor7777 said:

Those aren't metrics....

Robert Foster 13 games, 3 receptions, 64 yards, height 6'  2"  weight 196

 

Duke Williams, 1 game, 6 receptions, 108 yards, height 6' 3" weight 225

 

Williams is bigger then Foster and given the opportunity plays bigger then Foster.

[Captain Caveman]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

Robert Foster 13 games, 3 receptions, 64 yards, height 6'  2"  weight 196

 

Duke Williams, 1 game, 6 receptions, 108 yards, height 6' 3" weight 225

 

Williams is bigger then Foster and given the opportunity plays bigger then Foster.

Didn’t duke play in 2 games?

[Jauronimo]

3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Didn’t duke play in 2 games?

Duke has seen action in 4 games. 

 

12 catches, 166 yards, 1 TD

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/team/players-roster/duke-williams/

[Figster]

5 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Didn’t duke play in 2 games?

Listed as 4 with 3 GS,  12 receptions, 166 yards 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Didn’t duke play in 2 games?

 

Duke has now played in 4 games.  He was active for the Tenn game, 1st Miami game, and Philly as well as this past weekend.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Oh, no....Daboll going up on the locker room wall in Texas.  Just called JJ Watt "a beast" (truth if healthy) and Whitney Mercilus a "pretty good player"

 

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration on the part of Daboll with his young QB

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

-1:40 in: Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing (this was in regard to Josh's growth after being hurt in the Texans game last year, and he said "I haven't reflected on it, to be honest with you, we have a tall task ahead of us, that would be a....")

-2:33 in: He was asked how he thought the last month had prepared Josh for being on a stage like this.  He said "Yeah, Well, We'll see...he hasn't been in a playoff game"

-6:40 in: Questioner commented that Josh had said he gets "too ramped up" at the beginning of games and asked how do you convey the message to him to throttle down for lack of a better term?  Daboll said "You just try to stay in your routine, do the things you've done all year to prepare, take care of your body, and be ready to go when the time comes" "Is that really something that only experience can even out?" "I don't know"

 

Daboll was also just praising Coach Crennell to the skies.  I thought it was excessive.  It sounded like hero-worship almost to the point of being in awe or intimidated.  It just didn't sound like a "Man with a Confident Plan"

 

[Real McClappy]

Can't wait to see Oliver all jacked up playing back in his home town where he played all his ball until drafted by us. 

 

 

[Wayne Arnold]

4 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

What has Foster done that is exactly noteworthy on ST's that another depth player, or even a starter (it is the playoffs) can't provide?

 

I wouldn’t know. Punts are when I take leaks.

[MasterStrategist]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Oh, no....Daboll going up on the locker room wall in Texas.  Just called JJ Watt "a beast" (truth if healthy) and Whitney Mercilus a "pretty good player"

 

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration with Josh on the part of Daboll. 

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing.

I took his response to the Josh question to be that he just doesn't want to reflect on that, until after the season.  Maybe there's more to it,  as you said, but Daboll seems like a straight shooter.

 

Regarding the JJ Watt and Mercilus comment. maybe I'm hearing his answer differently, but the question was focused on JJ then Daboll brought up that they also have a 'pretty good player' in Mercillus.  Took that response. as a nice compliment to Mercillus, not a dig

[eball]

13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration on the part of Daboll with his young QB

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

-1:40 in: Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing (this was in regard to Josh's growth after being hurt in the Texans game last year, and he said "I haven't reflected on it, to be honest with you, we have a tall task ahead of us, that would be a....")

-2:33 in: He was asked how he thought the last month had prepared Josh for being on a stage like this.  He said "Yeah, Well, We'll see...he hasn't been in a playoff game"

 

 

 

I think you’re just looking for stuff.  Daboll is a no-nonsense guy.  Why would he blow smoke up Josh’s ass?

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, gregor7777 said:

Which metric are you using to say Duke is better than Foster?

 

Seriously?

 

Williams 4 games 12 catches 166 yards 13.8 avg 1 TD … 3 catches 41.5 yards per game (really its better than that because he was injured in one game)

Foster 13 games 3 catches 66 yards 21.3 avg... 0.23 catches 5.1 yards per game

 

Duke is simply more productive.  He is the only WR on the team that is a big target.  He can high point balls and has good hands.  He is open when he isn't.  For all the talk about how he is slow and doesn't get open, that is not what I seen in his play.

Foster on the other hand is a one trick pony speedster that simply doesn't contribute to the offense much at all.  Sure, he is better on special teams than Duke is.  I couldn't care less about that.  Punt the ball out of bounds as our special teams sucks with or without Foster.  We need someone to help us score points.  Duke can provide something no one else on this roster can at WR.  Foster is the same player as McKenzie that also contributes more than Foster.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Scott7975

[MasterStrategist]

40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Facebook of McDermott Interview

 

Joe ain't just a kiddin.  He made the reporters ask individually about players.  Like pulling teeth.

 

Twitter link

 

 

Haha exactly. mcdermott was not going to volunteer any of that info on injured players lol.  Good for him though, as fans we want to know right now what the status is of the players, but keep Houston guessing.  

 

Although Levi is no Tre White. hes still a very good player, and has been successful in a rotation with johnson throughout the 2nd half of season.  If he indeed had a low grade sprain, I think he will play.  Nsekhe. I'd be shocked if hes back.  Hoping that Shaqs hammy is resting and healing well. 

[eball]

Any guesses at number of Bills fans in the stands Saturday?  I’m feeling like it will be a LOT.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

 

 

 

 

This was already posted up-thread

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This was already posted up-thread

 

 

 

Deleted 

 

I try to look for them.  Apparently I missed it. 

[MasterStrategist]

33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Oh, no....Daboll going up on the locker room wall in Texas.  Just called JJ Watt "a beast" (truth if healthy) and Whitney Mercilus a "pretty good player"

 

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration with Josh on the part of Daboll. 

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing.

Also, I will say that Daboll comes across as the tough/"old school" coach, meaning he sees so much more potential in josh.  I see alot of constructive criticism, as opposed to raining him with compliments...both coaching styles are successful, that is just who Daboll is.  Time will tell if it 'meshes' with Josh. but so far I'd say Josh is on the right path.

 

Btw, that Frazier interview was also impressive.  Both Frazier and Daboll have that leadership that goes beyond X & Os, just thankful we have such a great staff in place, hopefully can keep that going for a long time!

[njbuff]

I hope it’s white jerseys and blue pants for their entire existence in the postseason.

 

White on white is not a tough look.

[DuckyBoys]

9 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Also, I will say that Daboll comes across as the tough/"old school" coach, meaning he sees so much more potential in josh.  I see alot of constructive criticism, as opposed to raining him with compliments...both coaching styles are successful, that is just who Daboll is.  Time will tell if it 'meshes' with Josh. but so far I'd say Josh is on the right path.

 

Btw, that Frazier interview was also impressive.  Both Frazier and Daboll have that leadership that goes beyond X & Os, just thankful we have such a great staff in place, hopefully can keep that going for a long time!

I'm sure Daboll is frustrated in missed opportunities.  Josh on the other hand has  had games where came in looking aloof or not into it.  I wonder if he knows ahead what the game plan consists of and its the Bills O in neutral playing it safe  Hopefully they catch fire for a playoff run

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

I'm sure Daboll is frustrated in missed opportunities.  Josh on the other hand has  had games where came in looking aloof or not into it.  I wonder if he knows ahead what the game plan consists of and its the Bills O in neutral playing it safe  Hopefully they catch fire for a playoff run

 

I have no idea what you mean here.  I have not seen anything I would describe as such.

[Dr. K]

3 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Watson was hurt I believe and they were pretty flat. Yes the Bills hung in there and really should of taken advantage of the situation and won. Alas Peter(PAN)man came in and threw up interceptions for everyone to have!

 

I don’t think last years game has much to do with this years game at all.

Before Peterman threw the interceptions that led to the Texans winning, he threw a touchdown pass that put the Bills ahead in the fourth quarter. I find it interesting that so many Bills fans have erased this part of the game from their memories. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

4 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

Before Peterman threw the interceptions that led to the Texans winning, he threw a touchdown pass that put the Bills ahead in the fourth quarter. I find it interesting that so many Bills fans have erased this part of the game from their memories. 

It’s hard to remember Peterman doing anything good. 

nice guy, great human being, but doesn’t belong in a real NFL game. It’s been proven over and over and over. 

[Real McClappy]

[LSHMEAB]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Oh, no....Daboll going up on the locker room wall in Texas.  Just called JJ Watt "a beast" (truth if healthy) and Whitney Mercilus a "pretty good player"

 

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration on the part of Daboll with his young QB

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

-1:40 in: Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing (this was in regard to Josh's growth after being hurt in the Texans game last year, and he said "I haven't reflected on it, to be honest with you, we have a tall task ahead of us, that would be a....")

-2:33 in: He was asked how he thought the last month had prepared Josh for being on a stage like this.  He said "Yeah, Well, We'll see...he hasn't been in a playoff game"

-6:40 in: Questioner commented that Josh had said he gets "too ramped up" at the beginning of games and asked how do you convey the message to him to throttle down for lack of a better term?  Daboll said "You just try to stay in your routine, do the things you've done all year to prepare, take care of your body, and be ready to go when the time comes" "Is that really something that only experience can even out?" "I don't know"

 

Daboll was also just praising Coach Crennell to the skies.  I thought it was excessive.  It sounded like hero-worship almost to the point of being in awe or intimidated.  It just didn't sound like a "Man with a Confident Plan"

 

That's the way I see it as well. This is the same OC that was screaming at said young QB on the sideline. That's pretty atypical. I think there's an ever so slight rift. The offense has not performed well this season, so I would actually hope none of them feel good or even "content" with the overall production.

 

There's an easy way to solve that both against Houston(and hopefully another 3 opponents.)

 

SCORE MORE POINTS!

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Oh, no....Daboll going up on the locker room wall in Texas.  Just called JJ Watt "a beast" (truth if healthy) and Whitney Mercilus a "pretty good player"

 

 

I also could be reading some stuff into this, but I'm sensing some frustration on the part of Daboll with his young QB

Give it a listen and see if any of the rest of you guys see it that way.

-1:40 in: Second week in a row in his presser he's responded "That would be a good question to ask Josh", for one thing (this was in regard to Josh's growth after being hurt in the Texans game last year, and he said "I haven't reflected on it, to be honest with you, we have a tall task ahead of us, that would be a....")

-2:33 in: He was asked how he thought the last month had prepared Josh for being on a stage like this.  He said "Yeah, Well, We'll see...he hasn't been in a playoff game"

-6:40 in: Questioner commented that Josh had said he gets "too ramped up" at the beginning of games and asked how do you convey the message to him to throttle down for lack of a better term?  Daboll said "You just try to stay in your routine, do the things you've done all year to prepare, take care of your body, and be ready to go when the time comes" "Is that really something that only experience can even out?" "I don't know"

 

Daboll was also just praising Coach Crennell to the skies.  I thought it was excessive.  It sounded like hero-worship almost to the point of being in awe or intimidated.  It just didn't sound like a "Man with a Confident Plan"

 

 

 

This looks to me like a no nonsense coach that knows what motivates his QB.  Allen seems like the type of player who wants brutal honesty about his play at all times and uses that feedback to improve.  I bet Jordan Palmer was mercilessly harsh on Allen's mechanics and instead of getting pissed and resisting the advise Allen embraced it.

 

Daboll was also being very honest about how big of a step up in energy & pace a playoff game is.  Allen hasn't experienced this and Daboll is going to make sure he understands that.

 

If you listen to Allen's comments on Daboll it's clear he holds his offensive coordinator is very high regard. 

 

 

[stony]

14 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

That's the way I see it as well. This is the same OC that was screaming at said young QB on the sideline. That's pretty atypical. I think there's an ever so slight rift. The offense has not performed well this season, so I would actually hope none of them feel good or even "content" with the overall production.

 

There's an easy way to solve that both against Houston(and hopefully another 3 opponents.)

 

SCORE MORE POINTS!

TBH, I've thought Daboll has handled himself excellent this season.  I've grown to really appreciate Allen, but man, how could you not wanna tear into him from time to time?  

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Dr. K]

55 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

It’s hard to remember Peterman doing anything good. 

nice guy, great human being, but doesn’t belong in a real NFL game. It’s been proven over and over and over. 

It has been proven, right. So why do Bills fans have to keep beating on him whenever anything even tangentially related to him comes up? Did he piss in their cornflakes or sleep with their girlfriend?

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 minute ago, Dr. K said:

It has been proven, right. So why do Bills fans have to keep beating on him whenever anything even tangentially related to him comes up? Did he piss in their cornflakes or sleep with their girlfriend?

He’s a pretty devout christian, I’m sure he didn’t sleep with anyone’s GF and do they even make Cornflakes anymore? Haven’t seen anyone eat those in years.

 

The reason I brought up Peterman was someone talked about the Houston game last year that Peterman played in. 

[Bronxbomber21]

Im not a fan of us being the 1st playoff game ... And since when do both the AFC games take place on the same day ?

[Boca BIlls]

3 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Im not a fan of us being the 1st playoff game ... And since when do both the AFC games take place on the same day ?

We are in the playoffs no way someone could find something to B word about... Nm

[njbuff]

14 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Im not a fan of us being the 1st playoff game ... And since when do both the AFC games take place on the same day ?

It’s fine.

 

They are well rested.

 

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