wppete Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/15/terrell-suggs-strategy-to-get-back-to-baltimore-could-backfire/ Terrell Suggs’ strategy to get back to Baltimore could backfire Cut by the Cardinals on Friday, veteran linebacker Terrell Suggs has leaked the notion that, if anyone other than the Ravens claims him on waivers, he may not show up. And that may operate as an engraved invitation to claim him on waivers. As players, fans, and media begin to characterize the NFL as an NBA-style league, where players pick their teams and not vice-versa, Suggs’ effort to clear a path back to Baltimore could be the thing that gets another team that wouldn’t have claimed him to go on and do it. Especially if he’s truly not going to show up, and in turn forfeit the $352,941 in salary he’s still due to make. It takes only one team to make the claim, especially since the Ravens will be as of Monday at 4:00 p.m. ET the last team in the waivers pecking order. Indeed, it actually would make sense for the Ravens to not even make a claim; if he’s available for the Ravens to claim him, it’s better for both sides if he simply goes unclaimed, collects the $352,941 from the Cardinals as termination pay, and double dips with the veteran minimum from the Ravens as a free agent. Still, the question is whether one of the other 30 teams will claim him, whether to help that team or to hurt the Ravens. In 2002, when Deion Sanders persuaded Washington to release him from the reserve/retired list so he could join the Raiders for a Super Bowl run, FIVE TEAMS put in waivers claims — and Sanders did not end up in Oakland (or anywhere else) that season. (He’d later unretire and play for the Ravens.) It should surprise no one if another team makes a claim for Suggs, whether it’s a non-playoff team that hopes to stick it to the Ravens (like the Bengals or the Browns) or a playoff contender that would rather have Suggs not with anyone than back with the Ravens. If nothing else, the Patriots should do it. Because it feels like the Patriots and Ravens are destined to meet again in the playoffs. Why would Patriots coach Bill Belichick want to let the Ravens have Suggs for that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 UPDATE. Claimed by the TITANS http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001087510/article/titans-may-claim-lb-terrell-suggs-off-waiver-wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, wppete said: UPDATE. Claimed by the TITANS http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001087510/article/titans-may-claim-lb-terrell-suggs-off-waiver-wire Wrong. The article talks about connections that may lead to the titans claiming him- teams still have until Monday to put in a claim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Watkins101 said: Wrong. The article talks about connections that may lead to the titans claiming him- teams still have until Monday to put in a claim yeah you are right. Hope it happens though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It will be interesting with the loss today if Tennessee does claim him now. Someone should claim him well before Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: wellll.....shhhhhyyytttt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: hmmm— we would have been ahead of them for waiver order, right? That means we didn’t put in a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: hmmm— we would have been ahead of them for waiver order, right? That means we didn’t put in a claim. Same record, so I’m not sure what would determine the order at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Same record, so I’m not sure what would determine the order at that point. If it goes by draft order, and I think it does, Buffalo would have been ahead of KC in waiver priority. To me this indicates they did not put a claim in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said: If it goes by draft order, and I think it does, Buffalo would have been ahead of KC in waiver priority. To me this indicates they did not put a claim in. I don't know that you are wrong but seems odd that draft order would be the tie breaker in week 15. Early in year, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Current 2020 NFL draft order has Bills at 25 and Chiefs at 26. If that’s the same as the waiver priority then Bills did not submit a claim for Suggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Appears Bills did not put in a claim. Would have been nice pick up for us at a minimum to keep from Chiefs who we could play in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Appears Bills did not put in a claim. Would have been nice pick up for us at a minimum to keep from Chiefs who we could play in the playoffs. In place of which player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Suggs has already said that he more than likely won't be playing for any other team than the Ravens. At least the Chiefs were smart enough to block that from happening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dopey said: In place of which player? The 53rd player currently on the roster. That’s an easy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dopey said: In place of which player? There’s a few expendable pieces. DiMarco is a popular one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Herc11 said: Suggs has already said that he more than likely won't be playing for any other team than the Ravens. At least the Chiefs were smart enough to block that from happening. Exactly. Could simply be a move to block him from BAL, NE etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dopey said: In place of which player? Vincent Taylor does not provide much. I would have made that switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dopey said: In place of which player? Johnson. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, NewEra said: Johnson. Easy. I was curious about jaquan? Special teams, but him and Siran are basically the same kind of player. I pondered it with all the duke and Yeldon talk lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I was curious about jaquan? Special teams, but him and Siran are basically the same kind of player. I pondered it with all the duke and Yeldon talk lately I should say, I wouldn’t cut johnson, he’d take his place on the active roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: I should say, I wouldn’t cut johnson, he’d take his place on the active roster He’s still practice squad eligible too isn’t he? Tricky cause maybe someone like Miami would snag him up and see what he’s got the last couple weeks. Crazy it’s become difficult to find active roster spots. Not a problem I foresaw 2-3 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Rc2catch said: He’s still practice squad eligible too isn’t he? Tricky cause maybe someone like Miami would snag him up and see what he’s got the last couple weeks. Crazy it’s become difficult to find active roster spots. Not a problem I foresaw 2-3 years ago Yeah I wouldn’t expose him on the ps. He’d just be inactive weekly. Cut Perry or dimarco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Good result. He will sit for KC and doesn't go to the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Was only going to play for Baltimore. So good let him go take a Roster spot on Chiefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Clemfield2622 said: If it goes by draft order, and I think it does, Buffalo would have been ahead of KC in waiver priority. To me this indicates they did not put a claim in. Probably didn't think it was worth messing up the roster they have. For better or worse, this will be the team the rest of the way. Glad Baltimore didn't get him. He can sit and pout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 LOL, the Ravens didn't even put in a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: There’s a few expendable pieces. DiMarco is a popular one. Fortunately Bills not run by popular vote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: LOL, the Ravens didn't even put in a claim. More than likely because they knew that they would have no chance of getting him in a waiver situation. Maybe they’re just holding out hope that the next team releases him, but that isn’t going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) https://www.nfl.com/standings/league/2019/REG I see above that the Bills didn’t put in a claim, but I believe the Chiefs are actually ahead of us in waiver order anyway. After the 3rd week of the season it goes by win-loss record. NFL.com’s league standings show the Bills 1 spot ahead of the Chiefs right now. So I’m assuming we are 1 spot behind them in the waiver order. (BTW, it’s so damn cool to see that little ‘x’ next to the Bills name! I’m not used to seeing that...) Edited December 16, 2019 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: More than likely because they knew that they would have no chance of getting him in a waiver situation. Maybe they’re just holding out hope that the next team releases him, but that isn’t going to happen Still, if you want him, claim him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: More than likely because they knew that they would have no chance of getting him in a waiver situation. Maybe they’re just holding out hope that the next team releases him, but that isn’t going to happen SF and SEA makes sense they saw him in conference games. KC defense is not great and may actually use him and if he wants a ring he should report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Still, if you want him, claim him. They could have signed him and not need to claim him. He would have been a free agent and that would have been a better deal for them. Just now, Limeaid said: SF and SEA makes sense they saw him in conference games. KC defense is not great and may actually use him and if he wants a ring he should report. KC needs him bad. They barely have any bodies after recent injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ngbills said: They could have signed him and not need to claim him. He would have been a free agent and that would have been a better deal for them. That’s only if you know that no other team put in a claim, which they wouldn’t know. You have to assume a NE or top team is going to put in a claim to either improve or block him from a competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Fortunately Bills not run by popular vote. Well obviously not. Shaq would be cut or traded. Singletary would of had his draft rights given away for free. Barkley would of started games this year. Duke Williams would be playing. Ford would be cut cause he’s a second round bust. Knox would be on the practice squad or just cut. Daboll would be looking for a new job. And the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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