As a die hard Wyoming fan why the negativity towards Josh?

[london_bills]

2 hours ago, PokeTransplant said:

 

Of course there is no criticism today, he played to your expectations and played like all of us that watched him for 3 years at Wyoming played. Given the stat that the last QB to win this many games at this point in the season was forever ago, I would think that the trolls and haters would be long gone by now.....

He had his best game of his career today. 

[mramefa]

3 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

The majority of us love him, and did so quickly after the draft, and even before his first preseason game.

 

He is clearly athletic, smart, centered, and motivated to succeed. The talk about stats ignored the most important one which is W-L in the lineup vs out of the lineup. Even as a rough prospect at Wyoming he was a winner. Even his interceptions were mainly taking risks correctly when his team was losing.

 

The disappointed are always the most vocal. I wouldn't worry about it.

[BuffaloBill963]

16 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

It’s a conspiracy by the Deep State Poke Fans!

Lol. We have the dumbest population and everyone seems to revel in it.

[May Day 10]

Where can i get an authentic josh allen wyoming jersey?

[WideNine]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It's because a certain segment of Buffalo sports fans like being miserable and always want to say they told us so.

 

Truth.

 

For some I think the negativity is just where they feel most comfortable - they kind of have that vulture vibe. For others they cant bring themselves to dare hope, to feel good after a win because it will mean a longer fall the next time the team stumbles. For those I would say that life is too damn short to ignore celebrating the wins just so you can keep sandbagging your fragile feelings against the next loss. That truth can apply to more than the game of football.

 

Live it up Bills fans - your Bills are 9-3 winners, and they did it on a national stage. It is ok to feel very good about your team - you deserve it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

 

I've been on board since the draft. The problem with most bills fans is we have been so bad for so long they dont want to be let down again so they are afraid to get attached and are looking at all the bad so they can feel better about themselves.

 

The only problem is they are going to have to get on board because its only getting better!

 

 

[Thurman#1]

10 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

 

 

9-3 is pretty great. Have there been more than a very few examples of negativity since they reached that record? There are always a few trolls and a few nuts but these last three games he has looked very nice indeed, and Bills fans are aware of it.

 

Most posts that might get called negative aren't so much negative about Allen as they are negative about the nuts who feel he's already clearly better than Brady and Brees and the rest, the people who don't feel happy unless they're being wildly, unrealistically and loudly overoptimistic.

Edited November 29, 2019 by Thurman#1

[longtimebillsfan]

10 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

I was in the camp that we should draft Josh Rosen.  Boy was I wrong!

 

I have been a Josh Allen fan after the initial reaction To the Bills not drafting Rosen.

 

Allen is a high character guy, a leader of men, hard working, and does not consider loosing an option.

 

We have found our quarterback for now and the future.

 

Thank you for coming on this board and giving us your insights.

[Sundancer]

Jerkoffs gonna jerkoff. It's not a Josh Allen issue. It's something those people carry with them. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

all those years of futility broke a lot of people  Easier to wait for the inevitable collapse because it always came  Much more enjoyable to just be in the moment  I'm savoring each game

 

Those people mentally and emotionally weak.

[Sundancer]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Those people mentally and emotionally weak.

 

Exactomundo. People who judge "busts" based on early performances say more about themselves than anyone else. 

[BringBackOrton]

5 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

Exactomundo. People who judge "busts" based on early performances say more about themselves than anyone else. 

Lol owning Joe unintentionally.

11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It's because a certain segment of Buffalo sports fans like being miserable and always want to say they told us so.

No one is miserable today with Josh Allen. Nobody.

[Sundancer]

Just now, BringBackOrton said:

Lol owning Joe unintentionally.

 

Did he beat the dead horse of "Josh as bust" nonstop on the board for months? 

 

Funny he'd be here in this thread judging people so harshly. The beam in his own eye. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

Did he beat the dead horse of "Josh as bust" nonstop on the board for months? 

 

Funny he'd be here in this thread judging people so harshly. The beam in his own eye. 

 

No. He's referring to my dislike of the Oliver pick. Which I've already repented for.

[BringBackOrton]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

No. He's referring to my dislike of the Oliver pick. Which I've already repented for.

What’s the famous line I’m looking for?

 

oh yeah, “nope, too late, we don’t want you on the bandwagon.”

[Sundancer]

6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

No. He's referring to my dislike of the Oliver pick. Which I've already repented for.

 

But you're in this Allen thread calling early judgers "mentally and emotionally weak?" 

 

Be careful of the blowing wind!

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Sundancer said:

 

But you're in this Allen thread calling early judgers "mentally and emotionally weak?" 

 

Be careful of the blowing wind!

 

 

 

The people who are constantly "concerned" and afraid of teams like the broncos are indeed mentally and emotionally weak.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

13 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

Is this Ice Bowl's little brother?   #supercute

[The Virginian]

13 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

There has been zero Josh Allen negativity on this board today. This post is a bad fake news flex.

I wasn't just referring to this day, but the negativity that has been swirling on this forum since day one.  I predict that JA will be the QB that finally brings the Lobardi Trophy to Buffalo.  On that day the negativity should cease, hopefully.

[BringBackOrton]

3 minutes ago, The Virginian said:

I wasn't just referring to this day, but the negativity that has been swirling on this forum since day one.  I predict that JA will be the QB that finally brings the Lobardi Trophy to Buffalo.  On that day the negativity should cease, hopefully.

Well this day was the only day we were 9-3, so your OP doesn’t make that much sense then.

[The Wiz]

10 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Where can i get an authentic josh allen wyoming jersey?

Google is your friend. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=josh+allen+wyoming+jersey&oq=Josh+allen+Wyoming&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3j69i60.5857j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[TigerJ]

Back during the pre-draft process in 2018, I was intrigued by Allen's positive traits: size, athleticism, arm strength, intelligence, and attitude.  When he was drafted, I accepted that there was some risk given the fact that he was raw, and had an uneven college career at a sub-standard college program.  I never waste my time trying to make instant prognostications about what high draft picks are going to bust or star.  Nobody really knows.  When Buffalo drafted Allen, I took the approach that I would be hopeful until or unless it became clear he would ultimately be unsuccessful.  Fortunately, it looks like he's on track to be the franchise QB Buffalo has needed since the Kelly era.

[May Day 10]

44 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Google is your friend. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=josh+allen+wyoming+jersey&oq=Josh+allen+Wyoming&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3j69i60.5857j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

 

Usually is the case, but i cant find anything with the correct number font and doesnt seem authentic.  The only authentic looking ones are autographed 

Edited November 29, 2019 by May Day 10

[Jerome007]

I vividly recall what The Virginian wrote about Josh. I've loved the kid since he was the pick. I really have. It was on him to make me lose confidence in him, and nope, he hasn't ha ha. I really was thrilled to read what you had written about him, since all I knew is that he was among the four top QBs projected to go in the draft and the Bills picked him. He was, he is, the Bills QB. Why as a Bills fan some feel the need to vomit all over him boggles the mind.

 

Has he been perfect? Was I always convinced he'd be elite and at last the Bills franchise QB? Of course not! But there is a huge difference between having doubts, legit concerns, valid criticism, and the so-called Bills fans wanting him to fail to be 'proved right about a bad pick'!!!  

[TPS]

Much like the team itself. The only player in a top ten category statistically is Smoke (I guess you can include Tre with Ints too).  This is a team that wins as a team. Just a joy to watch. I love the little things, like Smoke's pancake block on Josh's run. 

 

[US Egg]

Xmas shopping got a little easier for lots of folks. 

 

[Nick the Greek]

Dak threw for over 350 yesterday. Moral victory for him, I guess. 

[whatdrought]

14 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I am coming around to thinking that 300+ yards metric is like shots on goal in hockey.

 

Unless everything is going in and you're killing it... 300 yards is like peppering the goalie with bad shots... Too many shots/attempts, when you should be passing the puck off. Same in football. +300 is unbalanced attack, unless everything is going in... BUT, BY then a lead is bought and you should be running time off clock.

 

How many big games did Marino have but was grossly inefficient and couldn't win big game.  Hate to quote Tommy HomoBoy...But he's right: "What you hope all drives end with is a score or a punt.  That's it. Then you'll be alright."

 

 

 

300 yards is either a heavy heavy pass attack (See chiefs), playing from behind (Dak yesterday) or a shootout, and we don't really play shootouts. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

300 yards is either a heavy heavy pass attack (See chiefs), playing from behind (Dak yesterday) or a shootout, and we don't really play shootouts. 

The "Chefs" really have a great record this year.  Good for really the first year.  See Dan Marino. Sure great.  Won nothing except an early AFC Championship.

Edited November 29, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois

[whatdrought]

2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

The "Chefs" really have a great record this year.  Good for really the first year.  See Dan Marino. Sure great.  Won nothing except an early AFC Championship.

 

What? I don't get the first year thing?

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

What? I don't get the first year thing?

Mahomes over passing.  Coming back to earth once the rest of League adjusts.

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Mahomes over passing.  Coming back to earth once the rest of League adjusts.

 

Yeah, certainly need more balance.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Just now, whatdrought said:

 

Yeah, certainly need more balance.

Me or the Chiefs?  Thanks if you mean me.  Can always use more balance!

 

Hence, my avatar...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Is this Ice Bowl's little brother?   #supercute

 

No

[Rico]

18 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

Some people confuse fantasy football stats with winning football games in the NFL.  

 

JA is awesome.

I've read on this board that EJ had better stats his rookie year than Josh did.

[NickelCity]

There's been josh skepticism this year, but don't see it after this game. This thread may be a tad sensitive.

[stevewin]

18 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

haters gotta hate  People are too busy trying to stick with the pre draft narrative  He's been great and knock on wood will continue to improve

This exactly.  So many people went so far overboard negative on draft day, some ridiculously so - based on what the prevailing narrative was - they had to stick to their story or they thought they would look foolish (which they do).  In some cases they were rooting for Josh to fail so they wouldn't look so stupid (which they do), rather than root for his success and the success of the team.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

8 minutes ago, Rico said:

I've read on this board that EJ had better stats his rookie year than Josh did.

LOL,So have I. The Clown Show that is social media and now they all have a voice.

[John from Riverside]

19 hours ago, The Virginian said:

I'm perplexed by the negativity directed at Josh Allen by some so-called Buffalo fans.  What don't you like about being 9-3?  Back when he was drafted, several members of Poke Nation, me included, came on here to assure you that you were getting a guy that would be totally dedicated to the team, the city, and it's fans.  Stats, schmatz.  He's the face of the franchise and a winner.  What more do you need?

 

I was really excited about the Josh Allen pick from day one but for personal reasons......his families farm is right down the street from what used to be my grandfathers (now passed) dairy.....I knew from day one that Josh Allen knew the meaning of work.....you cant NOT know the meaning of work and grow up on a farm.

 

Then.....as young tot I grew up in Wyoming in a tiny town called "Kemmerer" the funning thing is I would have dreams of actually being able to play footballl for the University of Wyoming (never materialized....personal stuff caused me to move around a ton)

 

Josh Allen is VERY easy to root for.

[Augie]

I admit I wanted Darnold pre-draft. BUT, as soon as Josh was drafted he was “OUR GUY”. I’m behind our guys, and I was cautiously hopeful. Then cautiously optimistic. Now I’m fully optimistic and I just want to keep seeing general progress, and he’s certainly done that to date. This was posted elsewhere, but it worth repeating because it says it all: 

 

 

Josh Allen Stats@JoshAllenStats

Today was Josh Allen's 24th NFL game:

First 8: 52.88 cmp%, 1223 yards, 9 total TD (pass/rush), 7 INT

Next 8: 56.54%, 1754 yards, 15 total TD, 11 INT

Last 8 (since NE game this year):
62.1%, 1688 yards, 18 total TD, 2 INT

You want growth, you got it.

 

 

P.S. - I’m re-watching the game and I have to wonder why it’s OK to hit Josh Allen when he slides. That is ALWAYS a penalty when we do it!