Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: These responses are so stupid. He really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He says "play fearless," some idiot says "coach fearless" like he isn't one of the most aggressive coaches on fourth down or this is somehow bad coaching. He says "don't play fearless," and he would get criticized being too conservative. You are absolutely right. Welcome to being a Bills fan. There will always be a numb-nut ready to say i told you so. A few of them are on this very board. you know who you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. It would be interesting to know what, if anything, McD could say to appease you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said: Me too. But I'd prefer fearless Josh , 300yds 2 ints and win Dolphins game Best plays of Josh are in 4th quarter when we are trailing and he must risk. Allow him to play the whole game in his style. At least it'll be fun to watch unlike Tyrod-eaque caution The ONLY time he threw anticipatory throws was on the last drive. Let him be who he is, just get ready for picks. Hopefully the D can bail him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honestly, if we lost to the Dolphins and Allen threw 2 INTs, but threw for over 300 yards and played fearless, I’d take. Let the kid see what he’s got. Stop putting a ceiling on him before he’s matured this is startling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Ironic considering how they've been drumming the no interception mantra. Maybe the message is meant as much for Dabol as Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I can dig this. Let’s see some of that swashbuckling spirit that gave us this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: lol what. Since when did turning the ball over and losing to a bad team become something we’d be good with? consider the mullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 for me this is all lip service. its about as valuable as the coaches and alexander preaching about how they are gonna handle the run game issues for nearly a month now.... just put up and get on with it. I HOPE it leads to something but i'm not gonna put a lot stock in words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eball said: It would be interesting to know what, if anything, McD could say to appease you. that's easy. nothing. some just can't seem to get away from their negative ways. he is a pure example of it. Edited November 13, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. are you stoned? Lay off the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Kelly enjoyed throwing a pick or 2 himself back in the day—it just was usually sandwiched around a bunch of yards/TD’s, wins...you get it. I’d be fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Kelly enjoyed throwing a pick or 2 himself back in the day—it just was usually sandwiched around a bunch of yards/TD’s, wins...you get it. I’d be fine with that. or 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Regardless of what any of the naysayers point out, it IS important for your young talented players to not play scared. I think after the Pats*** debacle they told him "these turnovers have to stop." Josh overcorrected. If the message from his coach is enough to let him play loose and "let 'er rip" I'm all for it. Let's see what we've got. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Based on Josh's wording and reading between the lines a bit it seems like a soft confirmation that McD had Allen reigned in after the Pats* game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I’ll believe it when I see it. Is Allen even capable of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: or 3 Touché. Well played Herr Blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Somebody needs to tell McClappy to “coach fearless” as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. Chris Brown was reporting what Allen said to the media today. Doubt Josh was addressing an “issue highlighted on TBD” 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Is that code for Daboll to play call fearless and give Singletary the ball 26 times this weekend? I'd buy that for a dollar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. There's an interesting thing with Mcdermott that somehow as a leader he listens. Not sure if players aired their thoughts but I think it's a good message, especially for allen. Best thing for Allen is that he can throw a few picks without being condemned. Not necessarily the best for the teams score but I think it's the best message for Allen's development to trust himself. Edited November 13, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Maybe it is the realization that they've coached him into playing safer with his throws and now it is time to give him the green light to take more chances since him limiting interceptions hasn't really impacted the teams ability to win (3-3 over past six games). It probably means nothing tbh, but they've got to take the opportunity to let Allen grow and develop into the QB they think he is capable of being even if it means making more mistakes. To me the coaching hasn't been great on the Offensive side of the ball - Daboll isn't terrible, but he's also showing he has limited ability to really use his personnel to the best of their strengths - especially in the screen game - they have some athletic lineman that can move and block in space pretty well (even though they are so so at the point of attack) and a RB that is very dynamic once he gets into space. These are the type of throws that really help a QB and an offense start to get going. Also, too much telegraphing of what is coming at the D based on personnel and formation - they don't mix it up enough out of these formations. I questioned whether Daboll was the right guy and nothing has changed. The Offense isn't inept, but it doesn't take control of games either and despite what people say - it has enough talent to score more than it does, although a stud No. 1 WR would help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 All i want to see is the Allen from week 17 last season vs the Dolphins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This is the McDermott midseason swoon (we've seen it every year) - get ready for them to start picking it up again down the stretch. At least that is what I'm hoping and praying this is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: All i want to see is the Allen from week 17 last season vs the Dolphins Yeah. Surely there will be one full game where he will click, wishful thinking but you would think it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, McBean said: Somebody needs to tell McClappy to “coach fearless” as well. Yeah, it's a very odd statement coming from him, as it would be impossible for McDermott to follow his own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, FiftyPercent said: Yeah, it's a very odd statement coming from him, as it would be impossible for McDermott to follow his own advice. Fair point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: These responses are so stupid. He really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He says "play fearless," some idiot says "coach fearless" like he isn't one of the most aggressive coaches on fourth down or this is somehow bad coaching. He says "don't play fearless," and he would get criticized being too conservative. can someone tell me why in week 11 this has to be a message? Shouldn’t this have been the message from week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, McBean said: Somebody needs to tell McClappy to “coach fearless” as well. Going for it on fourth down--not once but twice--in the CLE game was pretty off-script for McD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: can someone tell me why in week 11 this has to be a message? Shouldn’t this have been the message from week 1? Because the message from week 1 has been play it close and limit mistakes on Offense - put the team in position to win. Now the message is changing with the Ls starting to accumulate and the team looking like it is stagnating and getting worse where it was strongest (Defense). So the Offense needs to take off the training wheels and become a strength if it can - it can go one of two ways IMO, but that is better than riding out what it has been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Leave the fear out of it. Play Lee Smith and Frank Gore less and never let Andre Roberts run another route 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: You know, if Denzel Ward wasn't such a good corner, the take on the playcalling on that drive would be a lot different. The Bills tried to get the ball way down the field to their best offensive player who was in single coverage, which is not a bad idea! Ward simply made a terrific play. There's a reason he was a top-five pick. Good players on the other side sometimes make plays that blow up good plans. I think people neglect the amount of talent Cleveland has in the secondary. Particularly when that talent is combined with Garrett’s pass rushing.... Those guys can make plays and excel in man coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsVet said: Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. Dicky J = Skeletor 49 minutes ago, eball said: Regardless of what any of the naysayers point out, it IS important for your young talented players to not play scared. I think after the Pats*** debacle they told him "these turnovers have to stop." Josh overcorrected. If the message from his coach is enough to let him play loose and "let 'er rip" I'm all for it. Let's see what we've got. I’m with ya- this boring lets hope we get in the playoffs kind of football isn’t what most of us are paying to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ayjent said: Because the message from week 1 has been play it close and limit mistakes on Offense - put the team in position to win. Now the message is changing with the Ls starting to accumulate and the team looking like it is stagnating and getting worse where it was strongest (Defense). So the Offense needs to take off the training wheels and become a strength if it can - it can go one of two ways IMO, but that is better than riding out what it has been doing. I get it. I know what is message has been. For some reason it is always the same message with Bills coaching staffs for the longest time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Maybe Sean could tell himself that. Plays wussy Jauron ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lurker said: Going for it on fourth down--not once but twice--in the CLE game was pretty off-script for McD... but at end of the day played for a 53 yard FG to tie So McD does this mean you are going to actually go for Points at end of half instead of kneeling it out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Josh Allen presser today https://www.buffalobills.com/video/josh-allen-this-is-a-group-that-really-cares-about-each-other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Is that like Fearlessly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: but at end of the day played for a 53 yard FG to tie Yeah I think we all knew that was less than a 50/50 try given that Hausch had already missed a gimme from 34. The game management was very bad and the decision at the end of the game to kick it was even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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