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Week 10: Bills at Browns


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16 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Look at how I phrased the question. I understand Gore needs to spell Singletary, but Gore is slowing down as the season goes on. I think it’s going to get worse as it gets colder and the more touches he gets. Singletary showed the complete package yesterday . Singletary can run, catch, and pick up the blitz. Gore’s touches should be non essential and limited. 

 

I mean. We brought him in and the line got rolled. Especially in short yardage in goalline situations. 

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9 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I mean. We brought him in and the line got rolled. Especially in short yardage in goalline situations. 

 

But earlier in the year he was money in those situations. So what changed? Gore feeling his age? Line not making holes? Predictable playcalling?

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 I think this will be a tough game for the Bills but one they should win. The game plan will be very different than against the Redskins. 

 

The Browns have a GREAT pash rush and for those complaining about too few play-action plays, I think you’ll see a lot of them against the Browns to slow down the pass rush. Given the Browns’ DEs, I think we’ll see a healthy dose of Gore and Singletary runs between the tackles. 


Defensively, Chubb is the whole game to me. If the Bills can stop him without loading the box with 8, it will force Mayfield to win the game with an inferior O-line protecting him. I see Landry getting a lot more targets than Beckham because he runs more shallow crossing routes and the Bills may have Tre dedicated to Beckham all day.

 

And can we get some freakin’ INTs from our defense? Do they know they are allowed to catch passes? :(

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37 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Beckham and Landry being told that they needed to change shoes at the half or they wouldn't be allowed on the field for the second tells you much about where this "team" is right now.  They are talented but fractured.  I hope, deeply, that this is not the week Mayfield decides to just toss the ball to Beckham time after time.  While an ass, he is hugely underutilized.


If Baker does that, in his current state of not being a very good QB, he’ll also be throwing those balls towards Tre White...

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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

The Browns can do one of two things this coming week:

 

1.  Rally up and come out angry ready to play Sunday, or

2.  Allow dissention to overwhelm them and fall apart

 

If I had to bet, it would be on #2.  They simply don't have the leadership in the HC position or with any players to do #1.

We have 3 big concerns in this game. OBJ, Chubb and Miles Garrett.  I believe that if we can shut these 3 down early, they will continue to fall apart. We want to extend the dysfunction, not give them a get well game.  

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Shocked that Cleveland can be favored in this one...The only chance Browns have to win this one is if Allen turns the ball over, and they somehow all of the sudden turn into a disciplined football that doesn't make any mistakes.  Truly a mind-boggling spread.

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6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

We have 3 big concerns in this game. OBJ, Chubb and Miles Garrett.  I believe that if we can shut these 3 down early, they will continue to fall apart. We want to extend the dysfunction, not give them a get well game.  

Agreed

11 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

They could start by scoring in the *gasp* 30s for once.

They did two weeks ago against the Fish

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Well the Browns are 2.5 point favorites.  Perception clearly is that the Browns are pretty good at 2-6, and the Bills are not nearly as good as their record. Should be a fun game, as no way the Browns make the playoffs with 6 losses already.

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2 minutes ago, Jobot said:

Shocked that Cleveland can be favored in this one...The only chance Browns have to win this one is if Allen turns the ball over, and they somehow all of the sudden turn into a disciplined football that doesn't make any mistakes.  Truly a mind-boggling spread.

They're not.  Bills are favored.

 

Edit: Wait, they're favored?!?  I am surprised as well.

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12 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

They could start by scoring in the *gasp* 30s for once.

 

Talk to Dabol about that because he is calling a ball control game plan. We scored on every possession in the first half and only had 17. And I think Dabol's playcalling is what's wrong on the 3Q.

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35 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

But earlier in the year he was money in those situations. So what changed? Gore feeling his age? Line not making holes? Predictable playcalling?

 

 Joe B addressed it in his 7 observations, and put it squarely on Daboll.  He faulted the OC for calling the plays straight into Redskins' strength up the middle.  Fair point to question bashing head against the wall after they got stoned at the goal line several times

 

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25 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

So the minimum acceptable perfomance is scoring a touchdown on every possession?

FIFY

 

And of course at least 6 INTs by our D, three of which are pick 6s, two blocked punts, and a KO runback 109 yds for a TD by Roberts. 

 

Then, only THEN will some “fans” allow themselves to “feel good” about The Bills. 

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10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Talk to Dabol about that because he is calling a ball control game plan. We scored on every possession in the first half and only had 17. And I think Dabol's playcalling is what's wrong on the 3Q.

 

I’ll let you know what he says when I talk to him ?

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The browns game is massive now. They are destructing. We are a healthy scratch. let's go in and beat them for 7-2.

 

I haven't seen the killer instinct/ability to put teams away yet and that might come back to bite us here. I feel like Allen will play well in this game though. 

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22 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

 

I’m talking about the offense. Not offense + Micah Hyde’s special teams heroics.

So now they have to score points in a specific way.  If they score 30 next week you’ll say they have to score 30 with just passing.

 

Some around here refuse to enjoy a successful team.

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1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

I absolutely agree.  Most of the Bills wins have been against teams without a whole lot of talent.  The Browns have the talent to do to the Bills what Philly did.  As I said in the thread about the next four games, if they get their act together, they are fully capable of smacking the Bills upside the head.

 

BTW, the 7-1 Packers visited the 3-5 Chargers, another team which has underperformed its talent, and got embarrassed, so for the Browns to trip up the Bills is entirely possible.


It’s definitely more than possible. It’s the likely scenario according to Vegas oddsmakers, albeit slightly more than 50%. 
 

This game will be a good test, no matter what the records say. At this point, I’m not sure what to think. I expect a close game either way. 

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