Baker being Baker

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

What? No.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/relationships/a26551655/us-divorce-rate/

feel free to argue on the use of the word "most" but combine co-habitation with half of marriages ending and divorce  (and talk to some twenty somethings) and you will realize that getting married is considered something to "see if it works out", not "something we have to make work".  I wish it weren't so. 

[teef]

19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh fercripesake.  Baker missing the hookup culture in Sorority Row at OU or something?  I mean, Why Even?

 

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a29387533/baker-mayfield-wife-emily-wilkinson/

" Baker's all-star status on the field made Emily, who was working as a plastic surgery patient coordinator at the time, uneasy, according to the NFL star's profile on ESPN.com. She didn't want to date what she called a "punk football player," and assumed Baker would be "the typical playboy athlete."  

 

Maybe should have stayed with that impression, Emily.  Bad timeline here:

Baker, however, really wanted to go on a date with Emily after a mutual friend introduced them. To get her attention, he began following and unfollowing Emily on Instagram. Then, in late December, they began talking and Baker asked Emily if they could go out before the Rose Bowl game (a.k.a. Baker's last college football game). Emily agreed to meet him for lunch. While there, he "peppered her with questions about herself, her family, her plans for the future."   Things moved fairly quickly after that first date. Immediately after Oklahoma lost the Rose Bowl game, Baker reached out to Emily again and told her that he intended to stay in L.A. Three days later, he moved in with her.  (...) Four months later, TMZ reported that Emily quit her job to relocate to Cleveland to be with Baker (who got drafted to the Browns). In July 2018, the two announced on social media that they were engaged, and one year later they got married.

 

 

all of this is so awful.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

On 2/10/2020 at 11:56 AM, TheFunPolice said:

Suddenly everyone who works for the Browns having their decisions vetted by Depodesta doesn't seem so crazy

Sorry Baker, analytics ran the numbers and this affair goes badly for you in 99.7% of simulations....

 

Wait let me guess—the .3 where it went well was courtesy of PFF’s advanced secret analytics, amirite? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Reeks of an agent or some advisor telling him that being settled would improve his image among NFL teams.

 

Reeks of a young guy making hella impulsive decisions possibly driven by the parts he once grabbed on TV

 

I can understand the guys like Mahomes or Allen who have a relationship with someone they've known since high school.  There's something to be said for someone who "gets" your background, your family, maybe listened to and supported your crazy NFL dreams long before agents and scouts and GMs and coaches came calling.  You can trust them, your family can trust them, your friends can trust them.  Blahblah variety.   Counterpoint: someone with known character and integrity, someone who won't be sharing your Snapchats on trash media even if they're "like to murder you!" mad one day.

 

But move in in 3 days?  Man!

 

19 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Since the 1970's the majority of marriages have been temporary.  Today's young people don't even have a notion of marriage being a big commitment.  It wasn't for their parents or their grandparents generation at this point. They are following our actions.  

 

Mmmm.  Well, divorce rates peaked at 50% in the '70s and '80s - wouldn't that mean that half the marriages did NOT end in divorce?  So some significant group of young people must have an example where marriage was a commitment.

 

I think it is true though that a lot of these NFL athletes (and pro athletes in general) come from very chaotic home situations.  Obviously, that's not true for Josh Allen.  I have not cared enough to research Baker Mayfield.

[GaryPinC]

23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The Browns game IMO was an example of Daboll relying too much upon the X's and O's over the Jimmies and Joes. 

 

What I mean is that Daboll designed a game plan that relied too much upon the QB to beat the pressure and back the Browns off to enable the run game with his arm.  It was probably the best theoretical solution.  But in practice, with a still-developing QB who struggles under pressure and good, but not elite, receivers who struggle against physical man coverage, it didn't work.  I think there were other solutions - but just as with the Eagles and the Ravens, Daboll didn't really have a good fall-back plan ready on the back burner, for whatever reason.

 

So yeah, really, it was a game that we should have won.

I don't argue that we should have won and a portion of that was on Josh.  Daboll called some great plays to take advantage of the coverage, open up parts of the field and bring a receiver through on a delayed pattern.  I saw more than one occasion of this and Josh had enough time to set up a mid/deep throw while the delayed underneath route was open with all kinds of YAC.

 

Definitely was obvious Allen had/has more developing to do.  Watching the game unfold, while not perfect I felt Daboll did a good job of trying to scheme against them.  For me, it was a lack of execution.

[YoloinOhio]

20 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Reeks of an agent or some advisor telling him that being settled would improve his image among NFL teams.

It actually worked in one sense, that he was given “credit” for maturity by the media when he got married 

[Gugny]

31 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Since the 1970's the majority of marriages have been temporary.  Today's young people don't even have a notion of marriage being a big commitment.  It wasn't for their parents or their grandparents generation at this point. They are following our actions.  

 

Or it could just be that monogamy isn't natural.

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Or it could just be that monogamy isn't natural.

Natural is overrated. Crapping indoors isn't natural either.  But its been a pretty good thing for improving civilization. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Or it could just be that monogamy isn't natural.

 

Well, if you want to go that route, how far back you going? 

 

Walking on two legs prolly unnatural - see the incidence of spine problems. 

Wearing clothes?  Pfffft!

[Captain Hindsight]

4 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Natural is overrated. Crapping indoors isn't natural either.  But its been a pretty good thing for improving civilization. 

I hope you can recognize the irony of your user name being "Chaos" and posting this ?

[rayray808]

marriage is viewed as a legal binding contract rather than a holy union now days... hence the divorce rates 

 

 

but back to Baker...

 

I donʻt think this story is done. I think more people are going to come out to drag his name through the mud

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, rayray808 said:

 

I donʻt think this story is done. I think more people are going to come out to drag his name through the mud

The girl making the initial remarks did say that the snap account had a score (apparently the number of snaps you've sent/received?) of 5 digits. So she definitely assumed she wasn't the only one. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

The girl making the initial remarks did say that the snap account had a score (apparently the number of snaps you've sent/received?) of 5 digits. So she definitely assumed she wasn't the only one. 

 

I'm not judging the guy for the behavior per se.  But even before he got married, he persuaded his girlfriend to give up her job and relocate across the country to move in with him, then become engaged, then marry him. 

 

Unless she knew about this and was fine with it, that ***** just ain't right.  As described, it's not even excusable as a famous athlete being offered repeated and overwhelming temptation, the guy set up an account and went fishing.

[KD in CA]

16 hours ago, Augie said:

 

How often do you wish for a little LESS cleavage? 

Post of the thread here.  I’ve never seen a girl make so much cleavage look so unattractive.

[WotAGuy]

This reeks of sex addiction. Recruiting random girls on social media to give you head in a Cheescake Factory parking lot?  Yup. 
 

If you like getting head that much, just find a good one and put her on the damn payroll.  
 

Perhaps he just needs a professional recruiter to set up these “interviews”. ?

[Reed83HOF]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

21 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Post of the thread here.  I’ve never seen a girl make so much cleavage look so unattractive.

 

That's the key point you take from this thread?  Srsly?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Put it on a T-shirt!!

…...was he parked in the right spot?....

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

This reeks of sex addiction. Recruiting random girls on social media to give you head in a Cheescake Factory parking lot?  Yup.

 

Yes, agreed. 

 

15 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

If you like getting head that much, just find a good one and put her on the damn payroll. 

 

If this turns out to be true, I'd guess it must be some kind of power or ego trip (or sexual fantasy) to get random women to perform a sex act on him for no compensation.   If that's the case,  finding a well-qualified and discreet professional would not fill the same need.

 

The media keeps describing the woman as his "mistress", but in the usual sense she's no such thing; "mistress" meant more what "sugar baby" does now, someone who receives value for services provided - money, jewels, housing, vehicles  in exchange for companionship and sexual services as desired.

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm not judging the guy for the behavior per se.  But even before he got married, he persuaded his girlfriend to give up her job and relocate across the country to move in with him, then become engaged, then marry him. 

 

Unless she knew about this and was fine with it, that ***** just ain't right.  As described, it's not even excusable as a famous athlete being offered repeated and overwhelming temptation, the guy set up an account and went fishing.

It seems like the actual fetish is him flexing his fame like some kind of power trip.

[Mango]

I don't really get why this is still going on in the news. It just seems like a non-story to me. Pro-athlete regularly cheats on wife with random women....

Big story!

 

I am not condoning it. By no means am I going to "yuck his yum". Unless his wife knew about it, and they were in an open marriage, then he is a dirt bag husband. But I think we were all leaning towards Baker being a POS anyways. 

 

Honestly I am almost relieved that we don't have another story of a professional athlete raping and assaulting women. 

[Gugny]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well, if you want to go that route, how far back you going? 

 

Walking on two legs prolly unnatural - see the incidence of spine problems. 

Wearing clothes?  Pfffft!

 

I only wear clothes when I go to Bills tailgates/games.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I only wear clothes when I go to Bills tailgates/games.

 

I did not need that visual

 

12 minutes ago, Mango said:

I don't really get why this is still going on in the news. It just seems like a non-story to me. Pro-athlete regularly cheats on wife with random women....

Big story!

 

I am not condoning it. By no means am I going to "yuck his yum". Unless his wife knew about it, and they were in an open marriage, then he is a dirt bag husband. But I think we were all leaning towards Baker being a POS anyways. 

 

Honestly I am almost relieved that we don't have another story of a professional athlete raping and assaulting women. 

 

I understand your relief, but Man that's a low standard.

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I did not need that visual

 

 

You got something against a pair of Levis and a Josh Allen jersey?

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm not judging the guy for the behavior per se.  But even before he got married, he persuaded his girlfriend to give up her job and relocate across the country to move in with him, then become engaged, then marry him. 

 

Unless she knew about this and was fine with it, that ***** just ain't right.  As described, it's not even excusable as a famous athlete being offered repeated and overwhelming temptation, the guy set up an account and went fishing.

Man Baker seems more like a sleezeball everyday now

 

Not really following this but I feel bad for his wife. I still believe marriage is sacred 

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

You got something against a pair of Levis and a Josh Allen jersey?

You just bumped up 2 rungs since you're a Levi guy ?

[BuffaloHokie13]

20 minutes ago, Mango said:

I don't really get why this is still going on in the news. It just seems like a non-story to me. Pro-athlete regularly cheats on wife with random women....

Big story!

 

I am not condoning it. By no means am I going to "yuck his yum". Unless his wife knew about it, and they were in an open marriage, then he is a dirt bag husband. But I think we were all leaning towards Baker being a POS anyways. 

 

Honestly I am almost relieved that we don't have another story of a professional athlete raping and assaulting women. 

Yeah, that's the interesting thing. Seems kinda sketchy and weird, but everyone who has come forward with a story has made it seem entirely consenting. Sleazy, sure. But really everyone involved so far is a consenting adult. 

[416BillsFan]

2 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

This reeks of sex addiction. Recruiting random girls on social media to give you head in a Cheescake Factory parking lot?  Yup. 
 

Maybe he has a Cheesecake Factory addiction and is just looking for a sensible reason to keep going there.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Yeah, that's the interesting thing. Seems kinda sketchy and weird, but everyone who has come forward with a story has made it seem entirely consenting. Sleazy, sure. But really everyone involved so far is a consenting adult. 

 

You and Mango raise an interesting point.  Yes, it does seem that (again, if the stories are true) everyone involved is a consenting adult and the behavior, while sleazy and weird, is not (as described) physically abusive or violent in any way.  I'm not even sure it's illegal (there might be an ordinance against publicly indecent behavior that would apply to sex acts inside a vehicle).  It's emotionally abusive of his wife if they aren't in an open marriage and she didn't agree.

 

Baker is a public figure who is being promoted with a certain image - the devoted husband and home-protector (Progressive ads) and the edgy, slightly bad-boy NFL star.  Against that background, it's probably news that instead, he may be a dirt-bag husband and sleazy sex addict.  It would certainly affect his celebrity endorsements.  It seems to me it also would have an impact on perception of him as a leader of the Cleveland Browns football team, setting an example for poor public behavior and prowling around the edges of shopping malls when maybe he should be watching film or otherwise getting ready for a game.

 

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

You and Mango raise an interesting point.  Yes, it does seem that (again, if the stories are true) everyone involved is a consenting adult and the behavior, while sleazy and weird, is not (as described) physically abusive or violent in any way.  I'm not even sure it's illegal (there might be an ordinance against publicly indecent behavior that would apply to sex acts inside a vehicle).  It's emotionally abusive of his wife if they aren't in an open marriage and she didn't agree.

 

Baker is a public figure who is being promoted with a certain image - the devoted husband and home-protector (Progressive ads) and the edgy, slightly bad-boy NFL star.  Against that background, it's probably news that instead, he may be a dirt-bag husband and sleazy sex addict.  It would certainly affect his celebrity endorsements.  It seems to me it also would have an impact on perception of him as a leader of the Cleveland Browns football team, setting an example for poor public behavior and prowling around the edges of shopping malls when maybe he should be watching film or otherwise getting ready for a game.

Keep your eyes peeled for his appearance in a flavored trojan ad!

 

Or maybe a range rover ad where he explains how much room there is for various activities? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Keep your eyes peeled for his appearance in a flavored trojan ad!

Or maybe a range rover ad where he explains how much room there is for various activities? 

 

[WotAGuy]

51 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

Maybe he has a Cheesecake Factory addiction and is just looking for a sensible reason to keep going there.

Addiction will make you do crazy things.  Getting hummers in the parking lot to keep going to Cheesecake Factory qualifies. ?

[teef]

the only way this scenario is worse is if the action is going down in an applebees parking lot.  

[Mango]

1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Yeah, that's the interesting thing. Seems kinda sketchy and weird, but everyone who has come forward with a story has made it seem entirely consenting. Sleazy, sure. But really everyone involved so far is a consenting adult. 

 

I know, right? 

 

Everybody has some sort of version of him saying "so are we going to do this?". So I imagine he was pretty explicit in his requests up front. 

[Bray Wyatt]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

Addiction will make you do crazy things.  Getting hummers in the parking lot to keep going to Cheesecake Factory qualifies. ?

 

Sounds like he is driving the wrong car!

[x-BillzeBubba]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

Addiction will make you do crazy things.  Getting hummers in the parking lot to keep going to Cheesecake Factory qualifies. ?

 

I am fond of their avocado egg rolls.   Right now, I'm not enthused to eat there for fear of what I might see in the parking lot as I walk in ?

[Gugny]

If Baker Mayfield ever plays against the Bills at New Era Field, it would be fun if everyone wore these …

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I only wear clothes when I go to Bills tailgates/games.

 

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I did not need that visual

too late 

[stuvian]

if this lummox is picking his OL his career will be over faster than Tim Couch

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/13/ryan-grigson-working-as-consultant-to-browns-again/