H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Fitz going for broke..... or trying to get broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, they are both decent receivers. It would just be nice to move them down the depth chart one spot. Our WR corps is subpar as is, add a real number one, and I’d have a different opinion. what exactly is a real #1 receiver? Edited October 29, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 NFL: We're going to give you horrible games. ESPN: Fine, we're going to make audiences suffer listening to Booger McFarland every game. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, they are both decent receivers. It would just be nice to move them down the depth chart one spot. Our WR corps is subpar as is, add a real number one, and I’d have a different opinion. You need a 1, a 2 and a slot guy, plus at least 1 consistent TE to keep the D honest. Right now we have 2 of the 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, mannc said: They do, but do you think we have receivers as good as Schuster, Deonte Johnson and Vance McDonald? Or even as good as the Dolphins’ receivers, for that matter? No, not even close IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, mannc said: They do, but do you think we have receivers as good as Schuster, Deonte Johnson and Vance McDonald? Or even as good as the Dolphins’ receivers, for that matter? Brown and Beasley are pretty good WRs in this league. They could definitely use another one but Allen also has to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Man that fish o line is dreadful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I don't know why everyone hates Booger. I think he's great. His energy and attitude makes the game fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: Always makes me angry when I see joe blow QB throw for 300 yards. As Mason Rudolph will likely get tonight. Why is Buffalo seemingly incapable of having a passing attack no matter what they do? Wouldn’t you eventually back into a 300 yard game every once, twice, or fifty games. Well, Mason Rudolph is a lot more accurate than Josh. I'd also venture to guess that Pittsburgh's offense is fairly simple and easier to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 When Fitz retires he should be someone's color commentator. MNF would be a good gig for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: I don’t think Brown and Beasley are subpar. We don’t have enough of them to regularly free them up to get open. The opponent can just take Brown away and shadow Beasley and we don’t have anything else for them. We have a high level #2 and a solid slot receiver. We desperately need a #1. Baker has Odell and Landry. Mahomes has Hill, Kelce, Watkins etc Watson has Hopkins Rudolph has Juju. Goff has Kupp, Cooks and Woods. Just look at what Amari Cooper has done for Dak. Its getting beyond annoying for a select few people on this board to somehow think Josh Allen is the only QB that wouldn’t benefit from a legit #1, or at the very least, a legit WR of any sort opposite Brown. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Brown and Beasley are pretty good WRs in this league. They could definitely use another one but Allen also has to be better. Sure he needs to get better and he will. But having only two legitimate receivers is like having him play with one hand tied behind his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: You need a 1, a 2 and a slot guy, plus at least 1 consistent TE to keep the D honest. Right now we have 2 of the 4. And you need a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield and a RB that is a threat to break off 20+ yard runs if you rely on the nickle to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: what exactly is a real #1 receiver? A guy who can make contested catches, who can be an underneath or a deep threat. John Brown has number one stats this season, but that’s because he’s been placed in that role. Stats don’t show the kind of passes a QB can make to a guy with more versatility than Brown. Brown would be an awesome number two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 This part of football is the dumbest part. No reason no to put a chip in the ball and alway get the spot right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, clayboy54 said: Sure he needs to get better and he will. But having only two legitimate receivers is like having him play with one hand tied behind his back. It’s so much more than getting another WR.. it’s Allen playing better, Daboll calling a better game etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: Sure he needs to get better and he will. But having only two legitimate receivers is like having him play with one hand tied behind his back. you know, before the season started people were hyped with all the new guys on offense and expected Allen to make a big jump. Now that it hasn’t happened it’s because the people we added aren’t good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: And you need a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield and a RB that is a threat to break off 20+ yard runs if you rely on the nickle to much. Yes, that too. All this Daboll criticism has to be taken with a grain of salt. You can’t play the game you want with only half the weapons you need. Edited October 29, 2019 by clayboy54 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 They take this long to decide means they're looking for a screw job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This part of football is the dumbest part. No reason no to put a chip in the ball and alway get the spot right It is absolutely idiotic. There is no way anyone can look at those replays and know - at that clear and convincing evidence standard - exactly where the most forward part of the ball was exactly when the runner's knee made contact with the turf. And yet ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Well, Mason Rudolph is a lot more accurate than Josh. I'd also venture to guess that Pittsburgh's offense is fairly simple and easier to run. They have a pretty conservative game plan with him but it leads a ton of 3rd and long. He’s limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: It’s so much more than getting another WR.. it’s Allen playing better, Daboll calling a better game etc. Which would both be influenced by another legit WR. You severely underestimate what talent can do. People out here expecting a 2nd year QB to elevate WRs like Brady and Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: We have a high level #2 and a solid slot receiver. We desperately need a #1. Baker has Odell and Landry. Mahomes has Hill, Kelce, Watkins etc Watson has Hopkins Rudolph has Juju. Goff has Kupp, Cooks and Woods. Just look at what Amari Cooper has done for Dak. Its getting beyond annoying for a select few people on this board to somehow think Josh Allen is the only QB that wouldn’t benefit from a legit #1, or at the very least, a legit WR of any sort opposite Brown. You just nailed the bigger than Brown as the number one. The big issue might be Beasley as number two. Bease is a great slot guy, but placing him number two after Brown is far from ideal. Who is our number two? Because this roster has no one I’d consider a legit number two WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: you know, before the season started people were hyped with all the new guys on offense and expected Allen to make a big jump. Now that it hasn’t happened it’s because the people we added aren’t good enough. Making excuses for poor QB play... a Buffalo tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Gross I was really hoping for a Miami win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Miami just got shanked. Garbage call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: A guy who can make contested catches, who can be an underneath or a deep threat. John Brown has number one stats this season, but that’s because he’s been placed in that role. Stats don’t show the kind of passes a QB can make to a guy with more versatility than Brown. Brown would be an awesome number two. So John Brown is putting up #1 WR numbers but you don’t think he’s a #1 WR because of....reasons? Is your only knock against Brown that he isn’t a big physical WR who is going to go up for jump balls? If so that’s a lame reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They have a pretty conservative game plan with him but it leads a ton of 3rd and long. He’s limited. You know you may be right, but we really don’t know when he’s playing short handed and with his gunslinger competitiveness, he’s always trying to squeeze it into tight places. You know, throw the guy open mentality. I just don’t think we have the guns to know for sure right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: You just nailed the bigger than Brown as the number one. The big issue might be Beasley as number two. Bease is a great slot guy, but placing him number two after Brown is far from ideal. Who is our number two? Because this roster has no one I’d consider a legit number two WR. I thought it was the guy we traded up for because he was better than JuJu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Making excuses for poor QB play... a Buffalo tradition. This is one of those rare times I agree with everyone posting. We need better QB play, Allen becomes a bust if he doesn’t improve big time before the end of the season imo, we also need a legit number one WR, and Daboll needs to learn how to be an NFL level OC. All of those things are problems right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: you know, before the season started people were hyped with all the new guys on offense and expected Allen to make a big jump. Now that it hasn’t happened it’s because the people we added aren’t good enough. Perhaps it was wishful thinking by a hopeful fan base ? A few good additions, but not a great group of offensive skill players by any means. Just my opinion though. Maybe the Bills really have one of the elite collections of offensive talent in the NFL, but the QB sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Making excuses for poor QB play... a Buffalo tradition. Yep. Most of the offense's struggles has been because of Josh's tendency to be sloppy with, and not take care of the ball. I believe we can win with the WR's and TE's we have. Of course a WR1 would be nice, but DE and DT are bigger needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I don’t know how many games the Dolphins will win this year, but Flores has them playing hard and he seems to know what he’s doing. He’s going to be around for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) How can they tell knee down vs a 1/2 inch off the turf? Can you see compression of the knee pad. Definitive that the knee was down? Edited October 29, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: So John Brown is putting up #1 WR numbers but you don’t think he’s a #1 WR because of....reasons? Is your only knock against Brown that he isn’t a big physical WR who is going to go up for jump balls? If so that’s a lame reason. Was thinking the same thing. I don't like how certain guys can seemingly never reach #1 status. Brown very well could be a #1, he's just not in the top-5 Julio Jones class. It goes out without saying that this team needs another WR whether it's a clear #1 (Mike Evans) or another solid 1B/2A (Allen Robinson). John Brown and a bunch of slot guys certainly isn't going to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: So John Brown is putting up #1 WR numbers but you don’t think he’s a #1 WR because of....reasons? Is your only knock against Brown that he isn’t a big physical WR who is going to go up for jump balls? If so that’s a lame reason. John Brown and Cole Beasley are the only guys who seem to be thrown the football when Knox isn’t dropping it. That means they have good reception numbers. Brown has been really good, but is he really a game changing WR? He’s played great, and I love him as a number two, but Brown isn’t someone who’s going take a game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Perhaps it was wishful thinking by a hopeful fan base ? A few good additions, but not a great group of offensive skill players by any means. Just my opinion though. Maybe the Bills really have one of the elite collections of offensive talent in the NFL, but the QB sucks. Without a doubt, it was wishful thinking. We are better than we’ve been in a long time. We still have a long way to go... with personnel and with performance. It sure is nice to be frustrated with 5-2 compared to 0-7 or some such crap. I’ll be patient. I’ve sat through this since 1963. I can wait awhile longer. ☺️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selron Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Come on Fitz...win one for The Erie pa buffalo fans!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Another garbage call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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