Steptide Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm probably in the minority here. Yes, it always sucks to lose, especially to our arch nemesis. However I'm not really upset. Maybe it's because all week I expected to lose this game by 14 points or more. Josh allen was terrible at times, there's no way around it. BUT, I can't help but give him some slack because he's a young player. The defense was absolutely stunning. Stopping Brady in plus territory multiple times and making him look really bad. My biggest disappointment, and what may have been ultimately what cost the bills the game, was the blocked punt and touchdown. Again it sucks to lose, but I really feel good about this team and what I thought was maybe a 9 win team, looks more like an 11 win team. Also please fix my title lol 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I woke up today with a similar feeling. Did anyone think we would be undefeated this season? Did anyone really think Josh was never going to have a bad game? It happens... and it'll happen again. So yeah we lost. We're still 3-1. And the way our drense looked, the way they made that team look, they can contend with anyone. They shut Brady down all afternoon. Yes Josh, and the entire offense, need to get their collective ****s together. We still need a lot of growth there. But, I don't think we're as far off as a lot of people here are making it out to be. They need to put this game behind them fast... this weekend we play a team trying to take a playoff spot from us. We need to go down to TN and get back on the winning track. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The Bills found out a lot of things yesterday about themselves and the Pats. The Bills now know they can beat the Pats and that it is coming soon. Even in defeat, it was a moral victory for the Bills. I hate to say it, but when wait until next year comes around, the Bills are going to take over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm not mad but am concerned. Josh Allen does not appear to learn much from his mistakes. You can only coach one up so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) They have had plenty of "moral victory" losses to the Pats during this 20 year streak of embarrassment only to never be heard of the rest of any particular season after losing to those guys. Can they win in Tennessee with a "wounded" offense? I don't know. This team is historically awful on the road and if things are the same with this team, they will lay an egg in Tennessee no matter who the QB is. The Bills have talked a big game about being a different team this year. We shall see. Edited September 30, 2019 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Is Daboll on the hot seat? Edited September 30, 2019 by first_and_ten 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: They have had plenty of "moral victory" losses to the Pats during this 20 year streak of embarrassment only to never be heard of the rest of any particular season after losing to those guys. Can they win in Tennessee with a "wounded" offense? I don't know. This team is historically awful on the road and if things are the same with this team, they will lay an egg in Tennessee no matter who the QB is. This particular team is 2-0 on the road. This defense can make Mariota's day miserable. I think Tennessee is very very winnable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Sorry boys. I don't buy moral victories. Our defense shut down Brady and the Patriots in a brilliant way. And yet we pissed the game away with a quarterback who insist on doing hero-ball tactics instead of taking the open man. Always says he's going to learn from his mistakes but he hasn't yet. The hero football mentality also led him to not protect himself when he's running. Now we've lost our starting QB possibly until after the bye bye. We won't know for a while. Three turnovers and a blocked punt for a touchdown yet we were still score away from winning. But once again, somehow we bungled it again. I'm tired of losing to the Cheats and I'm tired of making excuses for losing to them. Screw next year, win now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The Bills found out a lot of things yesterday about themselves and the Pats. The Bills now know they can beat the Pats and that it is coming soon. Even in defeat, it was a moral victory for the Bills. I hate to say it, but when wait until next year comes around, the Bills are going to take over. The Bills did not prove they could beat the Pats. They are not going anywhere until they do. They prove that when at the end of the game they have more points than the Patriots. Anything else is delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, jletha said: This particular team is 2-0 on the road. This defense can make Mariota's day miserable. I think Tennessee is very very winnable. I don't disagree, but what does this D have left after a massive performance yesterday? I can see this D laying an egg in Tennessee. If the Bills get drilled in Tennessee, we will have serious questions during the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, teef said: mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. We played the exact opposite of perfect football and were 2 yards from taking lead and most likely winning. I disagree that we needed a perfect game to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 a step in the right direction for once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: They have had plenty of "moral victory" losses to the Pats during this 20 year streak of embarrassment only to never be heard of the rest of any particular season after losing to those guys. Can they win in Tennessee with a "wounded" offense? I don't know. This team is historically awful on the road and if things are the same with this team, they will lay an egg in Tennessee no matter who the QB is. The Bills have talked a big game about being a different team this year. We shall see. Historically awful on the road. 2-0 on the road this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The Bills found out a lot of things yesterday about themselves and the Pats. The Bills now know they can beat the Pats and that it is coming soon. Even in defeat, it was a moral victory for the Bills. I hate to say it, but when wait until next year comes around, the Bills are going to take over. Agreed. You can't say yet that Buffalo has become a better team than the Patriots, but you can no longer say, based on yesterday's game, that New England is clearly better than Buffalo, and the day could be coming when Josh Allen develops, and learns to take what the defense is giving him, that Buffalo will be the better team. I would not all it a moral victory, but a sign of hope for the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr. K said: The Bills did not prove they could beat the Pats. They are not going anywhere until they do. They prove that when at the end of the game they have more points than the Patriots. Anything else is delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 "I am am not" mad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. I agree with most of your comments, but I'm not so sure we have to wait till next year. We face them again and I don't think that's an automatic loss after seeing what they did yesterday. But, I agree, I'm waiting to see how they repsond next week. If they truly are contenders, turning the corner, they'll beat TN. Let's see how they handle a hard fought loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 OP...you might want to go back, read your thread title, and maybe, just maybe, change it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, teef said: mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. The thing is, before the game everyone woukd have said they would have had to play mistake-free football to have a chance to win, but even with tons of mistakes and turnovers and a blocked punt for TD (!) they STILL could have easily won yesterday. Even if they just punch it in from the two (which should have been the 6 inch yd line BTW). That is not even counting some questionable calls and losing their startibg QB. They could have easily won this gane even with that totally imperfect mistake-riddled performance Edited September 30, 2019 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Historically awful on the road. 2-0 on the road this season. Just because they are 2-0 on the road to start doesn't mean they will end up 3-5 on the road for the season. I say enough with the excuses and go out there and dominate Tennessee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, stevewin said: The thing is, before the game everyone woukd have said they would have had to play mistake-free football to have a chance to win, but even with tons of mistakes and turnovers and a blocked punt for TD (!) they STILL could have easily won yesterday. Even if they just punch it in from the two (which should have been the 6 inch yd line BTW). That is not even counting some questionable calls and losing their startibg QB. they could not have EASILY won. the game is dictated by the scoreboard, up 13 the Pats didn't have to risk anything, they knew they didn't play great and still walked out with an easy road win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: Just because they are 2-0 on the road to start doesn't mean they will end up 3-5 on the road for the season. I say enough with the excuses and go out there and dominate Tennessee. I have NO fear of Tennessee. Why? Two words: Marcus Mariota. The defense is gonna FEAST on that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, teef said: mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. Disappointed as well. However, what I took away was that they DIDN'T need to play a perfect game to beat the Pats*. Less mistakes? Obviously. But, they could have beaten that team even with those mistakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, njbuff said: Just because they are 2-0 on the road to start doesn't mean they will end up 3-5 on the road for the season. I say enough with the excuses and go out there and dominate Tennessee. hopefully they can get up for this game like they did yesterday, sometimes it just isn't there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: they didn't play great and still walked out with an easy road win Sorry man. You know I have much love for you, but THAT is just ridiculous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 another "moral victory," and more "next year we will surpass the Pats***." The team lost because they made really stupid mistakes at key times. The blocked punt that should never have happened had the punter or McD noticed the max pressure coming. The Allen INT's, and sacks out of FG range after holding onto the ball wayyyyy too long. Take those away, we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: I have NO fear of Tennessee. Why? Two words: Marcus Mariota. The defense is gonna FEAST on that guy. I would like to agree with you, but they put in a big effort yesterday. Do they have anything left for Tennessee is my biggest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 With this defense, if the Bills can manage to score 21-24 points they can win a lot of games. I don't think that is asking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: they could not have EASILY won. the game is dictated by the scoreboard, up 13 the Pats didn't have to risk anything, they knew they didn't play great and still walked out with an easy road win BS. They didn't stop playing their game up 13-0 and they certainly didn't stop playing their game up 16-10 most of the second half. Easy road win for them? Hardly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: I would like to agree with you, but they put in a big effort yesterday. Do they have anything left for Tennessee is my biggest question. They've done this four consecutive weeks. No reason to believe they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: They've done this four consecutive weeks. No reason to believe they won't. Will this team be ready for Tennessee, no matter who the starter is at QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, teef said: mad no. disappointed, yes. this team had to play perfect football, or near perfect football to win that game yesterday and they didn't. the offense is way to riddled with mistakes still, and that needs to be worked on. as i said in another thread, i'm more interested now to see how this team responds on sunday. if they come out and look competent/win the game, it will make me feel better going forward. They didn't have to play perfect football to win that game yesterday. They made a ton of mistakes & still were in position for the go ahead score at the 2 minute warning. The Bills roster is as talented as the Patriots. The biggest difference between the two clubs right now is that the Patriot know how to win & close out games, the Bills are still in the learning process in that department. That will come with experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: they could not have EASILY won. the game is dictated by the scoreboard, up 13 the Pats didn't have to risk anything, they knew they didn't play great and still walked out with an easy road win Wow. If you think that was an easy win for them i dont even know what to say. That ranks among the stupidest things i've ever seen on this board 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Will this team be ready for Tennessee, no matter who the starter is at QB? Has this team TRULY not been ready at any point this season? I'm saying no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: I don't disagree, but what does this D have left after a massive performance yesterday? I can see this D laying an egg in Tennessee. If the Bills get drilled in Tennessee, we will have serious questions during the bye. You can see this D laying an egg for what reason? Based on what evidence? They have played dominating defense for 4 straight games, save for 1 quarter against the Bengals. Mariota isnt Brady. I am profoundly more worried about the offense next week than our defense, especially if Barkley is the starter. Im really confused by your take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: I would like to agree with you, but they put in a big effort yesterday. Do they have anything left for Tennessee is my biggest question. The Falcons are not good. Bills D will destroy Titans imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, jletha said: You can see this D laying an egg for what reason? Based on what evidence? They have played dominating defense for 4 straight games, save for 1 quarter against the Bengals. Mariota isnt Brady. I am profoundly more worried about the offense next week than our defense, especially if Barkley is the starter. Im really confused by your take. The D can't be perfect EVERY week. That is my point. When does the O start to gel and catch up to the D is the big question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) I'm ain't mad I am am not mad AB's trying guys! Edited September 30, 2019 by Jobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Agreed. You can't say yet that Buffalo has become a better team than the Patriots, but you can no longer say, based on yesterday's game, that New England is clearly better than Buffalo, and the day could be coming when Josh Allen develops, and learns to take what the defense is giving him, that Buffalo will be the better team. I would not all it a moral victory, but a sign of hope for the future. Well...moral in the sense that the Bills know that they could of won. That is something very positive for this young nucleus to build on. As far as I am concerned, we are entering the twilight of this one sided rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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