billsherd Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen can throw a long ball but has a hard time completing it. If he starts hitting some of those throws that's when he will take that next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, GG said: The big issue is that his play in the first 3 Qs puts the entire onus on the defense to keep the game in check. There's no question that I would rather have him than Barkley when the game is on the line with 3 minutes to go. But realistically, the first 3 games should have been blow outs, and today's game wouldn't need last minute heroics with half way decent QB play. I think that at this point, with the offense that Daboll is running, Barkley is the better option. There has to be concern about Allen's regression this year, especially when the long ball has been woefully off. I think the announcers repeatedly showed that the WRs were not getting any separation. This Bills team is Allen's and they will live and die with his arm. There is no going to Barkley unless Allen is not allowed to play next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgetty Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Absolutely not. Had multiple throws slapped and tipped. Throws a weak soft ball. Several at WR feet. Can’t survive as a starter. Please let Allen come back soon. He is our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I think Barkley is much more of a QB that can pass you open or throw with anticipation i guess ? Given a week of prep i have all the confidence that he can go in & win the game for us !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I hope Allen plays, but no matter who plays, we need to stop with the turnovers. We win yesterday if we don't turn it over yesterday. It's not like NE caused all the turnovers. Three were self inflicted, not counting the blocked punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I’m not saying Barkley has a good arm but I think it’s better then people are alluding to. I don’t see it as a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don't see why not. So, he doesn't have a rocket arm. Does he need one? So, he doesn't scramble a lot. Does he need to? sustain drives - utilize Beasley no hero ball get the run game going!!! keep the run game going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: If I didn't come out and say it, then I didn't say it then did I? Forget your assumptions, I could really care less. One guy tried that on me and I made him look like a bigger fool than he already is. And after today and last week, Allen showed anything but being smart with his decision making. I don't know what Barkley will bring to the table, but I do believe he can read the field better. Give him practice and see what happens. When Allen is cleared, put him back in starting. That clear enough for you? I guess you got me! Would you rather they start Barkley? It's a yes or no answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I’m just amazed that some people have convinced themselves that Barkley isn’t anything but a journeyman. There’s a reason he has a 68 qb rating. that said, he is probably better at reading the field and making quick decisions than Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 he looked like kazoo out there. he's looks half the size of JA. I don't have a lot of faith in him but if DS is back they can utilize the running game to help some but I don't see a chance at a victory against tenn with him at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, pop gun said: I guess you got me! Would you rather they start Barkley? It's a yes or no answer! Only if Allen can’t go on Sunday. Barkley does do some things better than Allen, but not enough to warrant starting. I can support our backup while being objective. People writing him off are the ones being premature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 14 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: The Titans have a pretty decent defense, but no where near our calibur. The big test will be with this o line. As you pointed out, Barkley can't make something out of nothing like Allen can. But I do think Barkley is better at going through his progressions, but this O line will have to play lights out and give better protection. If Singletary comes back, I believe we win rather convincingly the big thing about protection is when our qb runs backwards (tyrod did it too) and the line is forced to protect longer, pressure is gonna get home...not to mention the increase in holding calls. those sacks allen took yesterday were maddening , especially taking us out of field goal range. 10 hours ago, dlonce said: Why don’t you think Allen will play? Because he didn’t return? Concussion protocol isn’t a minimal process. He could easily return. i don't see how a player can progress through the mandatory stages of protocol in one week. i'd bet money he's out til after the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, MAJBobby said: no it really doesn’t. How many Points did Barkley lead is to today? i mean it is about points. So how many did Barkley put up today How many did Allen cost us with his boneheaded plays? In fact, Barkley could have led a drive for 3 points, but we needed a TD because Allen knocked us out of FG range two times. Oh, we also lost by 6. Clearly Allen will be the better QB, but some fans on here think any critique of Allen is unwarranted, and that Barkely is terrible. Both of which are untrue. Edited September 30, 2019 by RyanC883 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Best way to look at it. Allen Plays - we are favored Barkley Plays - will will be dogs Probably not true. The early lines I've seen have Titans -2.5 and Allen's status has not been announced yet. I doubt the line changes if Barkley is the starter Sunday. Like it or not, the general betting public thinks Allen sucks. Not saying they love Barkley either, but most outside of this board don't think he hurts the Bills' chances. Edited September 30, 2019 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said: Only if Allen can’t go on Sunday. Barkley does do some things better than Allen, but not enough to warrant starting. I can support our backup while being objective. People writing him off are the ones being premature Yeah, didn't think you would answer it. Try watching the game instead of just highlights, you half fan! You advocate for Barkley but won't all out say so because you don't want to commit and paint yourself into a corner because you can always retort, "i didn't say that", yeah whatever. Josh is the unquestioned starter, if you can't see that (don't know how you would just by watching highlights) you're lost and only wants to argue with your half wit opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: I'd feel better about next week if Singletary plays. Barkley will need as much help as possible. He will need to get the ball out quickly since our O-line is struggling with pass protection. The run game and short, quick passes will be a good start, rather than the long ball requiring a longer time of pass protection. Any O line struggles when the QB holds the ball too long- just sayin’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If Barkley starts I think we lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Haven't read the whole thread, but Barkley is a back up for a reason, it's called talent and Josh has it. I think Barkley is good enough with this team to go 1-1 over a couple weeks. I don't like him against this team this week. We need Josh Allen to play and develop over the long haul or we're in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Barkley is a capable backup. I would rather have Josh on the field, mistakes and all. There is way more upside with Josh on the field IMO. I honestly feel like if Josh stayed on we would have beat the Pats. He has done it in 3 other games this year. There is a reason that Barkley is a backup QB on the Buffalo Bills instead of a starter for another team in an NFL that doesn't have enough starting quality QBs. I feel comfortable with him as the backup, but that doesn't mean I would want him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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