John from Riverside Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: The Bills tried trading for a WR in-season and it failed miserably in 2017 when they went after Kelvin Benjamin. Just roll with what you got for the rest of 2019. Yeah I am not sure I would agree with that.....we need to win now Super Bowl probably not but this is a playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Does Diggs drop a lot of balls at key times? Every time I look at him he is making a play That's how highlights work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Yeah I am not sure I would agree with that.....we need to win now Super Bowl probably not but this is a playoff team The Bills can easily go to the playoffs without adding a WR from the outside via trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Rob's House said: That's how highlights work. LOL yeah I understand that His overall numbers dont look bad either over 1000 yards last year? 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: The Bills can easily go to the playoffs without adding a WR from the outside via trade. Should always be looking to improve. And lets face it past Brown and Cole.....a lot of just a guy's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Minny seems to be a win now team judging by the age of their roster and the nature to which they went in on Kirk Cousins. I don't know why they would trade Diggs. Their offense primarily works because Diggs and Thielen keep opposing defenses from stacking against the run. I would love for the Bills to trade a number 2 pick and a more disposable player like Zay or Spain (I think if everyone is healthy you kick Ford into where Spain plays) for Diggs who I think would give the offense enough weapons to be a top 10 unit. Brown and Cole would slide down to the number 2 and 3 options where they would be most effective and Diggs at age 26 would have enough years left at a high level to justify the draft capital of a 2nd rounder and a the cap hit. If Diggs hit the market I think Minny would want a 1st rounder and a starter, I think the Bills wouldn’t be justified giving up a 1stbut for a 2ndI would easily offer. But right now I don’t see why Minny would trade Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: That was a terrible overthrow by Allen, are you really blaming Zay Jones for that? I heard the blocked punt was Zays fault too.... the guy ruins everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Question: Why would they trade Diggs? Easy answer because they know we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Josh Allens play did cost us the win.....along with ST's Can you at least say the 3 passes cost Zay "a chance" at 3 TD's.......cuz there is no guarantee especially given the player he would have even caught them..... We’ll never know because none of those throws were remotely close to being catchable. Yet somehow, despite this, it’s Zay who gets ripped instead of the QB who has repeatedly missed him. I don’t think Jones is a good WR but the hate he gets on this board is disproportionate to the mistakes he’s made this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MDH said: I don’t think Jones is a good WR but the hate he gets on this board is disproportionate to the mistakes he’s made this season. Same with Yeldon. I don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 23 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: Zay Jones is my least favorite bill of all time. Were you not awake when we had Maybin? Or Peterman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: LOL YES How about now? Is it link time now? 1 minute ago, ColeB said: Were you not awake when we had Maybin? Or Peterman? Don't forget the illustrious career of Erik Flowers. Or Eddie Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Rent AJ green for rest of year. No cap hit next year...compensation pick potentially and well he's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Let's now talk about receivers that non-contending teams will trade. The Viking have something to play for so they wouldn't swing this deal without us getting royally ripped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, njbuff said: The Bills tried trading for a WR in-season and it failed miserably in 2017 when they went after Kelvin Benjamin. Just roll with what you got for the rest of 2019. I think the Bills should be monitoring the WR trade market but shouldn't feel forced to make a move. A true number one WR is the Bills biggest need on offense. They lack a game setting WR1. Cole is a very good slot guy and Brown is a nice number 2 but they need a true number one. I don't think a true game breaking WR one or even a respectable WR one will hit the market. But if there is a reasonably priced upgrade to the WR position out on the market then I think the team will have to take that chance. Diggs isn't going anywhere unless a first round pick is in the mix which is too high a price in my opinion. But if a good WR hits the market and could be had at compensation that makes sense then they shouldn't be afraid to go after one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 This thread is such a tease. I have proof link anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ColeB said: Were you not awake when we had Maybin? Or Peterman? no I was, what is not saying much for Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:55 AM, apuszczalowski said: Well Thielen did come out after the game frustrated by the coaches wanting to run the ball all the time and said that when the running game isn't working you have to start throwing the ball. I would think he is closer to being traded over Diggs unless Cousins and the coaching staff are almost out the door? I don’t understand why Zimmer felt they needed to run more. They were 9th in points allowed with 341 so it’s not like they needed ball control to keep their defense off the field. They were 19th in points scored with 360, which was likely more responsible for their 8-7-1 record. When you have Diggs, Thielen and Rudolph and you added Irv Smith, why wouldn’t you want to use them? Cook is also a good receiver out of the backfield, as he showed last season with 40 receptions in 11 games. I guess it’s just Zimmer’s preference. If Diggs and/or Thielen are unhappy and the Vikes want to trade them, go gettum! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: How about now? Is it link time now? Don't forget the illustrious career of Erik Flowers. Or Eddie Robinson. Yeah, who was it, Pennington, not known for his running, that just about broke Robinson’s ankles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColeB said: Yeah, who was it, Pennington, not known for his running, that just about broke Robinson’s ankles? Lols yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 1:55 PM, apuszczalowski said: Well Thielen did come out after the game frustrated by the coaches wanting to run the ball all the time and said that when the running game isn't working you have to start throwing the ball. I would think he is closer to being traded over Diggs unless Cousins and the coaching staff are almost out the door? Let's get em both.Baller moves Beanes 23 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: This thread is such a tease. I have proof link anxiety. fantastical thinking can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Who's up for some rampant speculation? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Who's up for some rampant speculation? Hmmm... think we should go us, or the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Who's up for some rampant speculation? No smoke here: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/XSR960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Hmmm... think we should go us, or the Patriots? I think the Giants are hands down the likeliest candidate. He fits a real need, Shurmur had success with him, and they're not out of it by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Let’s go! (For wild rumors, don’t really care either way about Diggs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Who's up for some rampant speculation? Giants is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I think the Giants are hands down the likeliest candidate. He fits a real need, Shurmur had success with him, and they're not out of it by any means. But that’s sensible, informed, decent speculation. What we’re looking for is rampant, baseless, irresponsible speculation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: But that’s sensible, informed, decent speculation. What we’re looking for is rampant, baseless, irresponsible speculation. Ha ha. In all seriousness, he was super-productive under Shurmur in the two years Shurmur was Minnesota's OC - 2016 and 2017. Plus there's that catch in the Saints playoff game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 7:14 PM, John from Riverside said: Would much rather have him running those deep throws then Zay Jones That is all good player but doesn’t he have a big contract? Also he is not a true #1 that the team needs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: Ha ha. In all seriousness, he was super-productive under Shurmur in the two years Shurmur was Minnesota's OC - 2016 and 2017. Plus there's that catch in the Saints playoff game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm I like him a lot. I think that’s a good spot for him. Especially if they want to escalate the Daniel Jones fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: good player but doesn’t he have a big contract? Also he is not a true #1 that the team needs The Bills have tons of cap space, and he's 10 times the player Jones is. It's not even a comparison, really. That said, I don't see him winding up on the Bills at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: good player but doesn’t he have a big contract? Also he is not a true #1 that the team needs I think he is a playmaker At some point we need to start spending some of this money.....Beane even though he brought in all these players this year still spent a mild portion of our cap....we have even MORE cap going into next year. I realize we need to extend our own good players.....but we also need to think about the final pieces of what will be a Super Bowl team. Why is KC so good? Because they have TALENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Oh I get it. It’s useless thread Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The Bills have tons of cap space, and he's 10 times the player Jones is. It's not even a comparison, really. That said, I don't see him winding up on the Bills at all. We did inquire about Antonio Brown....yes that worked out in our favor but It doesnt change the fact that the bills were lookign 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I think he is a playmaker At some point we need to start spending some of this money.....Beane even though he brought in all these players this year still spent a mild portion of our cap....we have even MORE cap going into next year. I realize we need to extend our own good players.....but we also need to think about the final pieces of what will be a Super Bowl team. Why is KC so good? Because they have TALENT It's more about the Giants than the Bills. He's a better fit there, and he's an even bigger need for them than he is for the Bills. Plus he had a ton of success under Shurmur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Ha ha. In all seriousness, he was super-productive under Shurmur in the two years Shurmur was Minnesota's OC - 2016 and 2017. Plus there's that catch in the Saints playoff game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm He actually had his best year without Shurmur though. I’m someone who never got the Cousins hype. But at this point, I’d trust him over Allen and Jones as passers. Plus, the Vikes are loaded as a team. I don’t know why they would want to trade Diggs at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: It's more about the Giants than the Bills. He's a better fit there, and he's an even bigger need for them than he is for the Bills. Plus he had a ton of success under Shurmur. Take whatever they are offering......and offer him fee wings for life, whatever soda he wants in the soda machine.....and 5 percent more in actual money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We did inquire about Antonio Brown....yes that worked out in our favor but It doesnt change the fact that the bills were lookign That was so dumb. Dumb luck (aka Antonio Brown) prevailed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: It's more about the Giants than the Bills. He's a better fit there, and he's an even bigger need for them than he is for the Bills. Plus he had a ton of success under Shurmur. But Gettlemen is talking with his stooges and saying, "Yeah, he's a great fit, and he will probably be great for us, but Shurmur is pushing this hard, so when that happens he will look smart and we can't have that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: Take whatever they are offering......and offer him fee wings for life, whatever soda he wants in the soda machine.....and 5 percent more in actual money Free soda John? Are you trying to turn him into Kelvin Benjamin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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