Bills QB Josh Allen becoming a must-watch player

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

#3. Didn't we do this on the Sunday night game and lose 25-24?

 

It might have been more time but I don't feel like it was a lot more. Maybe 4ish minutes left to play? 

...ugh...back under my rock...SMH.....damn senior moment.............

[The Wiz]

12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...ugh...back under my rock...SMH.....damn senior moment.............

Honestly, I'd prefer the senior moment or short memory when it comes to the games that we have blown over the years.   Seems like we have had too many. 

 

I was really worried about last week being one of them. 

Edited September 27, 2019 by The Wiz

[JMF2006]

I have friends that are fans of other teams but they won't miss a Bills game now that Josh is our QB.

 

They find him highly entertaining and very watchable.

 

Between his cannon arm and his running ability he is very fun to watch.

[Kelly the Dog]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

That began to change in a big way after last week. I have read countless tweets from both writers/bloggers and other teams fans that have all basically said the same thing: I didn't think Allen was any good but he clearly is and has a ton of talent.

[BuffaloBob]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

there is HYPE and then there is too much HYPE 

 

 

Get your feet back on the ground fellow Bills Fans 

 

if the Bills get crushed . It won't look good.

 

There is still things Josh needs to polish up 

SCREW THAT.  I'm all in and I couldn't care less what "it looks like" if we lose big.  For the first time in decades, I see a team truly on the upswing, so I'm even going to enjoy the part of the journey where we will lose some (even some we should win), because we'll also win a few we probably shouldn't as well.  You want to be careful and not get your hopes too high or get ahead of yourself, no problem.  I believe in this management team and coach, and I believe in our young QB, and I believe where this team is headed and I'm going to be as feet off the ground as I want to be while it happens.  So there!!    ?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Honestly, I'd prefer the senior moment or short memory when it comes to the games that we have blown over the years.   Seems like we have had too many. 

 

I was really worried about last week being one of them. 

 

 

...I refuse to waver from by new mantra......down 16-0 to the Jets, and I shut it off anticipating to read about the oops..."L" on TBD...wrong answer......Bungles took the lead 17-14 so AGAIN, I shut it off anticipating to read about the oops..."L" on TBD...wrong answer...damn right I ain't changing now...........

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

That was exactly my issue with Tyrod.  Even when he needed to take chances throwing he didn't.  In fact he regressed from when he was starter and usually that is coach telling him not to take chances.

Yep, and pretty much every QB in a Bills uniform before him till you get to Jim Kelly (except Fitzpatrick. He was always willing to risk it. Just didn't have the arm to back it up.)

41 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Only 3 things I ask

 

#1 On the Patriots 30, 4th and 1 Do not kick field goals against this team

#2 The Patriots will make adjustments at half time, change it up

#3 Do not give the ball to Tom Brady with 1:23 left in the 4th, in a 6 point game, we will lose. Brady launches those long passes looking for pass interference. Oldest trick in the book....

 

I tend to agree, but the Patriots have lost games in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line too. Brady threw an INT against Philly. Just not usually what happens.

 

In fact, I'd like to see Josh Allen get it with 1:23 left in the 4th in a 6 point game. He's shown a few times already that he can get it done. Would have had another if Clay catches that ball in Miami last year. He thrives in those "game on the line" situations.

[billmon06]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

As a Josh Allen and Bills fan from Wyoming I can say he is "must watch" here, and not just in WNY or or among hardcore fans.  However I also have to admit that given our small population, the sample size is low.  This Sunday could make a difference in the number of interested Josh Allen fans, but as far as I'm concerned, for those who don't follow his career, it's their loss.

[The Wiz]

12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...I refuse to waver from by new mantra......down 16-0 to the Jets, and I shut it off anticipating to read about the oops..."L" on TBD...wrong answer......Bungles took the lead 17-14 so AGAIN, I shut it off anticipating to read about the oops..."L" on TBD...wrong answer...damn right I ain't changing now...........

Can I ask you please to not even turn on your TV? 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Can I ask you please to not even turn on your TV? 

 

....LMAO!!.......so far so good....should I "break my W schneid"???.......we can arrange for cardiac pills to bridge the time for the eventual "W".........BOURBON is the nectar of the Gods in these tense moments.....but I do run short on ice..........

Edited September 27, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Chris66]

Not yet. Now Mahomes is must watch.

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Not yet. Now Mahomes is must watch.

As pointed out previously, "becoming".  Not "not yet" or "now".

 

 

[MJS]

8 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Not yet. Now Mahomes is must watch.

 

There can only be one?

[BuffaloBill]

3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

The anticipation of knowing he's capable of pushing the ball downfield for chunk plays no matter the down/distance, is what for me is so different from our previous signal callers during the drought--Kelly brought that same positive unpredictability, but minus his own running component. 

 

 

Obviously Kelly could not run as well but he was driven and tough. Two very different players. Let’s hope Josh continues to progress and win. 

[1st&ten]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

 

Well it's well know by the national media that Josh Allen is inaccurate, is only good at running, can't read defenses etc. He is the worst of the QBs drafted in is class & will be a bust.

What smart Bills fans know is this guy is an athletic & physical freak who is getting better every game he plays. His completive spirit & will to win are off the charts. His leadership shills are growing & his teammates love him. ( check out comments from his teammates)

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

 

What do you think in this article or the comments in the thread are inaccurate or "too much hype"? These are all just observations. Nobody is saying that Allen is an elite QB. Nobody is saying the Bills will win the Superbowl. But Allen IS an exciting player to watch and the Bills ARE undefeated and look to be on the right track towards consistent success.

I haven't seen a single poster, even the ones that think we are going to beat the Patriots on Sunday and win 12+ games this year, who have claimed that Allen is a finished product or does not have things to "polish up".

 

Oh did I say that out loud???

 

its VERY early and as much as I enjoy all presumed improvements I want to stay grounded.  

 

As to what needs to be polished up.    See every post game presser.    He readily states his faults and failures.    

I love what Josh and Bease are doing and John Brown etc etc .  

So, don’t make the wrong assumption. 

Edited September 27, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

Oh did I say that out loud???

 

its VERY early and as much as I enjoy all presumed improvements I want to stay grounded.  

 

As to what needs to be polished up.    See every post game presser.    He readily states his faults and failures.    

I've got something that needs to be polished

[reddogblitz]

If Josh can continue to play well and here's the key, if we win say 60 - 70% of our games, he absolutely will.  The NFL love to pump the young QBs. 

[Magox]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

To me right now the offensive line improvement in pass protection is a mirage.....Josh Allen and his ability to move is making them look better then they are.....

 

Which I expected at the beginining of the season...the OL has been almost entirely changed and need time to gel....but right now it is what it is

They are definitely better than last year both in the run and pass.  Specially the run.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Magox said:

They are definitely better than last year both in the run and pass.  Specially the run.

Yes def better in run blocking...but I am talking about pass protection.

 

Run blocking is much easier for an offensive linemen.

[The Dean]

6 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

 

I can tell you this: At the bar where I watch the Bills, many Philly, Cowboy and other fans regularly stop by to watch a little bit of the game. Most every one of those guys is very interested in watching Allen.  And a majority of them really believe he will be something special.

[Chandler#81]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

 

There can only be one?

Thankfully, there’s only one @Chris66

[stinky finger]

3 hours ago, Chris66 said:

Not yet. Now Mahomes is must watch.

 

Ok,  thanks sparky.

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Chris66 said:

Not yet. Now Mahomes is must watch.

Your that jets fan with the tiny hands, right? Yeah, you and Spags.. 

[billsfan89]

Josh always reminded me of Cam with a bit less speed (but still good speed overall) I think Josh is going to have some ups and downs this season but he is also going to be on a lot of highlight reels too. Hopefully they just let him rip against the Pats no need to be conservative on offense just play aggressive. 

[WideNine]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You mean like every other NFL team in the league

 

Look I think we have a chance.....but I am not hanging how I feel about this team on a game where the other team is DESTROYING teams right now......

 

[LSHMEAB]

Reality is that any Bills QB has to become a bonafide superstar before anyone nationally will take notice.

 

I'll be watching every game though and I assume anyone reading this will as well.

 

The eyeballs of non Bills fans mean nothing to me personally. 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[MJS]

6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Reality is that any Bills QB has to become a bonafide superstar before anyone nationally will take notice.

 

I'll be watching every game though and I assume anyone reading this will as well.

 

The eyeballs of non Bills fans mean nothing to me personally. 

 

I don't believe that it true. Just takes consistently winning in the regular season and showing up in the playoffs.

[LSHMEAB]

7 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

I don't believe that it true. Just takes consistently winning in the regular season and showing up in the playoffs.

I think the TEAM would get national attention, but I'm not so sure about the QB unless he becomes a superstar. Allen's style of play is definitely fascinating whether you like him or not, but the Bills are one of those teams that won't get attention unless they really make noise. KC, Cleveland, and Buffalo. Those are the 3 IMO. KC is all of a sudden must watch because of Mahomes. Cleveland became an "interesting" team because of all the shenanigans. But you MAY be right. I don't know. The Bills just aren't a team that gets alot of national love. Then again, they haven't consistently won in a LONG time, so there's that.

 

How bout this? How bout Allen becomes a franchise QB AND the Bills consistently win so we can find out the answer!

[MJS]

44 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I think the TEAM would get national attention, but I'm not so sure about the QB unless he becomes a superstar. Allen's style of play is definitely fascinating whether you like him or not, but the Bills are one of those teams that won't get attention unless they really make noise. KC, Cleveland, and Buffalo. Those are the 3 IMO. KC is all of a sudden must watch because of Mahomes. Cleveland became an "interesting" team because of all the shenanigans. But you MAY be right. I don't know. The Bills just aren't a team that gets alot of national love. Then again, they haven't consistently won in a LONG time, so there's that.

 

How bout this? How bout Allen becomes a franchise QB AND the Bills consistently win so we can find out the answer!

I think for the Bills to consistently win Allen will have to at least be a low end franchise QB, meaning a top 10-12 QB. Teams just don't last long unless they have a franchise guy if they rely on winning from somewhere else.

 

Elite defense, for instance, requires 11 starters plus whatever depth guys you use for sub packages. Hard to keep all those guys together over the years. But if you have a franchise QB you always have a chance.

[LSHMEAB]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I think for the Bills to consistently win Allen will have to at least be a low end franchise QB, meaning a top 10-12 QB. Teams just don't last long unless they have a franchise guy if they rely on winning from somewhere else.

 

Elite defense, for instance, requires 11 starters plus whatever depth guys you use for sub packages. Hard to keep all those guys together over the years. But if you have a franchise QB you always have a chance.

So you essentially agree with me! I feel like we're playing a semantics game here. If the Bills are winning consistently, Allen will likely need to be at least a low end franchise QB. I suppose you could quibble with my use of the term "bonafide superstar." The main point I was making is that the Bills are the furthest thing from a glamour team. It used to bother me when I was in my 20's. At this point, I really don't care if they get attention from outsiders. I just want to see them win. I'm not in this for bragging rights or "respect." I'm just a fan.

[Real McClappy]

Some people are just slower to catch on than others.

 

Don't worry Bills Fans, Collinsworth juggling of Allen's balls in his mouth will come soon too.

[ganesh]

8 hours ago, mykidsdad said:

I think waiting for this game is giving me an ulcer.

Waiting for every game in 17 weeks gives me an Ulcer !!!!

[Apocalypse Nuts]

8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

To me right now the offensive line improvement in pass protection is a mirage.....Josh Allen and his ability to move is making them look better then they are.....

 

Which I expected at the beginining of the season...the OL has been almost entirely changed and need time to gel....but right now it is what it is

 

Great point.  It feels like the OL does a good job like 1 out of 5 plays give or take.  I think the talent level is there - Beane did a good job of revamping with what was available.  Should be interesting to see how they do after the bye week.  Allen does a good job of evading when he can.  He got great experience at this working with a horrendous line in college.

[US Egg]

More like fun to watch, but still makes one cringe and grimace watching him.

 

Should the cringing and grimacing fade, then he might become a must watch.

[John from Riverside]

12 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

More like fun to watch, but still makes one cringe and grimace watching him.

 

Should the cringing and grimacing fade, then he might become a must watch.

I will say this....it does not matter the down or distance I feel like Josh can convert it every time he touches the ball

 

When was the last time we felt that way

[US Egg]

25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I will say this....it does not matter the down or distance I feel like Josh can convert it every time he touches the ball

 

When was the last time we felt that way

'When was the last time we felt this way' ?.....sounds like a love song.

 

Anyways, Allen is fun but not proven he should be anointed heir to the throne yet.

 

He will get his chance this year and I hope he does show he's the one.

Edited September 28, 2019 by I am the egg man

[Real McClappy]

8 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

We ? I don't know you.

 

Anyways, Allen is fun but not proven he should be anointed heir to the throne yet.

 

He will get his chance.

Hey Egg face man, stop being so butthurt when your wrong. A blind squirrel can see he has been balling the F out since coming back from injury.

 

Ohh, he's riding the throne big time right now whether you want to believe or not. 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Real McCoy

[Rocky Landing]

9 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have lived in Los Angeles for 28 years now (born, and raised in Rochester), and I generally hear football fans talking more about Allen than any other QB from his class. Last season, it was all about Mayfield, and Darnold, in that order. This season it's about Allen, and Jackson, and how much Mayfield is crapping the bed. In that order. Not many people talking about Jones, or Murray, for that matter. That is my observation from the West Coast. You've had a different experience, and I know there's several LA folks on this site, and perhaps they have a different experience, also. 

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have lived in Los Angeles for 28 years now (born, and raised in Rochester), and I generally hear football fans talking more about Allen than any other QB from his class. Last season, it was all about Mayfield, and Darnold, in that order. This season it's about Allen, and Jackson, and how much Mayfield is crapping the bed. In that order. Not many people talking about Jones, or Murray, for that matter. That is my observation from the West Coast. You've had a different experience, and I know there's several LA folks on this site, and perhaps they have a different experience, also. 

I think the popularity of fantasy football has also made people recognize Allen as a legitimate QB. He's been a good fantasy QB since last season. His running ability makes him a perfect fantasy QB. People playing fantasy football know about Josh Allen.