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Jauronimo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The Coughlin era in Jax has been exceptional. Retained Marrone, extended Bortles, and have slowly dismantled the defense that carried them to the AFC Championship game. Good work guys. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Ramsey and White would give Buffalo the best Duo in the league. To be Elite and a Superbowl contender you need Elite players. Elite players bring their own baggage. Bruce, Kelly they all had their moments. Ramsey is an elite cornerback. In McDermotts defense he would be a star. Edited September 17, 2019 by Mat68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I would rather trade a 4th for Fournette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Ramsey and White would give Buffalo the best Duo in the league. To be Elite and a Superbowl contender you need Elite players. Elite players bring their own baggage. Bruce, Kelly they all had their moments. Ramsey is an elite cornerback. In McDermotts defense he would be a star. Too bad hes on record as calling our QB trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Too bad hes on record as calling our QB trash. He called every Qb that was white trash beside Brady and Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Mat68 said: He called every Qb that was white trash beside Brady and Rodgers. Well at least it was racial rather than personal. Buffalo fans can dig that. Kinda like Vick and Kaepernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Jauronimo said: Well at least it was racial rather than personal. Buffalo fans can dig that. Kinda like Vick and Kaepernick. He just kinda shotgun spread every Qb. As a Db he plays cat and mouse with the Qb. I dont think it's a big deal. The defense is too talented and Marrone wasted it. There defensive scheme is dated. If a top 5 player at any position becomes available for any reason, Buffalo needs to be in on them. Those players usually dont hit FA often. They have the cap space, I think they have a solid offense and defense but are 1 or 2 players away from contending with NE and KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blank Stare Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 We’ll never do it, but I’d take him. Be a good countermove to Cheats and AB addition, but not for a first rounder. Someone will give it up though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Ramsey and White would give Buffalo the best Duo in the league. To be Elite and a Superbowl contender you need Elite players. Elite players bring their own baggage. Bruce, Kelly they all had their moments. Ramsey is an elite cornerback. In McDermotts defense he would be a star. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Maybe shouldn't have called a contending team's QB trash. Just saying. A first and public apology to JA on Twitter seems fitting. let's see if it happens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mat68 said: He just kinda shotgun spread every Qb. As a Db he plays cat and mouse with the Qb. I dont think it's a big deal. The defense is too talented and Marrone wasted it. There defensive scheme is dated. If a top 5 player at any position becomes available for any reason, Buffalo needs to be in on them. Those players usually dont hit FA often. They have the cap space, I think they have a solid offense and defense but are 1 or 2 players away from contending with NE and KC. and still no... We have a #1 pass defense sans this clown. Honestly do not care if a player is confident and feels strong in their game, or if they diss every QB in the league, but the attention-craving divas get under my skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) I hate to say it, but id do it. He's one of, if not the best in the game right now and offenses are passing more than ever, if you want to win this year, the path is through NE. The O is going as far as Allen does, period. Theres nothing thats going to magically make him better, other than time. The D needs help to be elite, this guy is an ass, but hes good. Bring him in, pay him, set it up to be out of the deal cleanly in 3 years. 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: and still no... We have a #1 pass defense sans this clown. Honestly do not care if a player is confident and feels strong in their game, or if they diss every QB in the league, but the attention-craving divas get under my skin. Check that ranking after the Pats game. Brady will drop 150 and 2tds on Wallace alone. Edited September 17, 2019 by DCofNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I hate to say it, but id do it. He's one of, if not the best in the game right now and offenses are passing more than ever, if you want to win this year, the path is through NE. The O is going as far as Allen does, period. Theres nothing thats going to magically make him better, other than time. The D needs help to be elite, this guy is an ass, but hes good. Bring him in, pay him, set it up to be out of the deal cleanly in 3 years. Check that ranking after the Pats game. So how much has he improved the Jags pass d? And NE makes every team look silly defending all their dinks and dunks, and rub plays. Doubt Ramsey suddenly makes them beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Mat68 said: He called every Qb that was white trash beside Brady and Rodgers. Yep, no thanks. We don’t need this guy anywhere near our locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 McDermotts MMA workouts could come in handy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Any witchcraft left??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Hands down, the best corner in the league. Jax problems have everything to do with poor QB play and bad coaching, and little to do with Ramsey. Yes, he's a big trash talker, but backs it up. I don't understand why people here take it personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 How obnoxious would the 90's Bill's be in the social media era? Kelly was Mayfield times x10. Why are so many people afraid of top players? Sure in a perfect world all the top players are Larry Fitzgerald or Kyle Williams. That is not the case for the vast majority of players. To beat NE and KC Buffalo is going to need a player like Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said: Hands down, the best corner in the league. Jax problems have everything to do with poor QB play and bad coaching, and little to do with Ramsey. Yes, he's a big trash talker, but backs it up. I don't understand why people here take it personal. He is a great player, but his mouth is bigger than he is. How could he possibly back up saying he would be in the NHL in a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Mat68 said: Ramsey and White would give Buffalo the best Duo in the league. To be Elite and a Superbowl contender you need Elite players. Elite players bring their own baggage. Bruce, Kelly they all had their moments. Ramsey is an elite cornerback. In McDermotts defense he would be a star. He is good however we tend to run more zone coverage, rather then man to man, something he’s having an active problem with in Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: He is good however we tend to run more zone coverage, rather then man to man, something he’s having an active problem with in Jax. McDermotts defense is more multiple in coverage. Given White and Ramsey, I think you would see McDermott get more exotic in their coverages. Norman was in the conversation for best Cb in the league with McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I'm really glad we haven't had this type of drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Sorry we got rid of all the "Me" type players and I don't see us going down that route again no matter how talented that player is. Edited September 17, 2019 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebandit27 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The AFC team is almost certainly the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I'd be both shocked and deliriously happy to get a player of his caliber at such an important position. That's especially true in the AFCE. I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Mat68 said: McDermotts defense is more multiple in coverage. Given White and Ramsey, I think you would see McDermott get more exotic in their coverages. Norman was in the conversation for best Cb in the league with McDermott. Yea but Norman is a zone corner, always has been. They might be multiple, but I’d like to see what percentage they actually play in man. Again, you want to bring in a loud mouth, (who talks trash about our QB) to a predominant zone coverage team after he just said “I don’t want to play zone.” I’ll pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 2:04 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: They do deserve one another, don’t they? ? ...and where is da fuhrer Coughlin during all of this?.....borrowed Buddy Nix' pillow??........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: Yea but Norman is a zone corner, always has been. They might be multiple, but I’d like to see what percentage they actually play in man. Again, you want to bring in a loud mouth, (who talks trash about our QB) to a predominant zone coverage team after he just said “I don’t want to play zone.” I’ll pass. McDermott is a rare defensive coach. He is not tied to a "defense". Cover 2, Cover 3 the 46. Most defensive minded coaches and co Ordinators believe too much in "their" scheme. McDermott schemes week to week. I dont think Buffalo has the talent to make the superbowl. I think Buffalo can easily make the playoffs. I would give up a first plus. To have Ramsey for 2 meetings with Ne maybe another, or a playoff game vs Kc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Mat68 said: McDermott is a rare defensive coach. He is not tied to a "defense". Cover 2, Cover 3 the 46. Most defensive minded coaches and co Ordinators believe too much in "their" scheme. McDermott schemes week to week. I dont think Buffalo has the talent to make the superbowl. I think Buffalo can easily make the playoffs. I would give up a first plus. To have Ramsey for 2 meetings with Ne maybe another, or a playoff game vs Kc. That’s all well and good, nobody is debating his talent. My point is he’s actively voicing his displeasure with not being in a let’s say “predominantly” man coverage scheme. The same thing would be the case here. So you’d bring in a boisterous unhappy guy into the same situation he’s in Jax, that’s number 1. Number 2, he’s publicly bashed our captain and quarterback Josh Allen. They may be able to patch that up, but that being said, would he even come to a team with a “trash” quarterback. Number 3, you’re going to give up a first rounder, plus whatever for a guy with one year left on his contract. He’s looking to become the highest paid corner in football, if you do that, what do you with Tre White? You can’t pay everyone. I like what I’m seeing with the development of Wallace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 If im a team im not trading these whiny brats as it just makes other weak minded individuals do the same thing. Players getting their way in these instances sets a bad precedent around the league. I play him and if he plays bad hes going on the bench or inactive and if he still causes problems i suspend him and trade him in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: That’s all well and good, nobody is debating his talent. My point is he’s actively voicing his displeasure with not being in a let’s say “predominantly” man coverage scheme. The same thing would be the case here. So you’d bring in a boisterous unhappy guy into the same situation he’s in Jax, that’s number 1. Number 2, he’s publicly bashed our captain and quarterback Josh Allen. They may be able to patch that up, but that being said, would he even come to a team with a “trash” quarterback. Number 3, you’re going to give up a first rounder, plus whatever for a guy with one year left on his contract. He’s looking to become the highest paid corner in football, if you do that, what do you with Tre White? You can’t pay everyone. I like what I’m seeing with the development of Wallace. McDermotts defense is not Jacksonville. He doesnt ask his players to do unrealistic things. That's why Jacksonvilles defense routinely give up big plays. McDermott has the defensive mind to shut down NE and Kc with Ramsey added to the team. Yes, he is a mouth. Many here wanted Mayfield for the same reason. He didn't do an interview about Allen. He bashed every Qb he faced that season besides Watson. Finally, yes. I would give up a 1st and 3rd for the best shutdown Cb in the league in hia prime for a defensive minded coach in a conference with Ried and Mahomes. Buffalo has 100 mil in cap space. They can afford to Pay Ramsey and everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mat68 said: McDermotts defense is not Jacksonville. He doesnt ask his players to do unrealistic things. That's why Jacksonvilles defense routinely give up big plays. McDermott has the defensive mind to shut down NE and Kc with Ramsey added to the team. Yes, he is a mouth. Many here wanted Mayfield for the same reason. He didn't do an interview about Allen. He bashed every Qb he faced that season besides Watson. Finally, yes. I would give up a 1st and 3rd for the best shutdown Cb in the league in hia prime for a defensive minded coach in a conference with Ried and Mahomes. Buffalo has 100 mil in cap space. They can afford to Pay Ramsey and everyone else. I think [Buffalo Bills draft pick Josh] Allen is trash. I don’t care what nobody say. He’s trash,” Ramsey told Clay Skipper of GQ Magazine. “And it’s gonna show too. That’s a stupid draft pick to me. We play them this year, and I’m excited as hell. I hope he’s their starting quarterback.” No, you can’t pay everyone. That’s exactly what happened with Doug Whaley. That’s why we just cleared it up, not to jump right back into paying #######s Kings salaries. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Jauronimo said: The Coughlin era in Jax has been exceptional. Retained Marrone, extended Bortles, and have slowly dismantled the defense that carried them to the AFC Championship game. Good work guys. I'm not sure I can agree with you here. That team was never that good. It was a total fluke that they made it as far as they did that one season. I mean they barely beat the Bills that year. They didn't really dismantle anything of substance, IMO. Edited September 18, 2019 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Playoffs? Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 All I can think about is Tre on one side and Jalen on the other.... Poyer and Hyde... and our front 7.... wow! Although it’s a long shot, if we want to beat Brady and Mahomes, this would be a phenomenal start!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Playoffs? said: All I can think about is Tre on one side and Jalen on the other.... Poyer and Hyde... and our front 7.... wow! Although it’s a long shot, if we want to beat Brady and Mahomes, this would be a phenomenal start!! i do wonder what he might be like under a coach who commands respect and is a true leader of men, as opposed to Marrone . And i am not being snarky, i think it it is obvious Marrone lacks the skills to be a leader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Marrone‘s team has won 3 of the past 16 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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