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Josh Allen - week one report card


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8 minutes ago, OrediggerPoke said:

It is the same narrative at Buffalo as it was at Wyoming.  Josh will make some mistakes early in the contest.  Josh's overall stats won't be terribly impressive. But when the game is on the line in the second half, he comes to play and flat out makes plays.  Not to mention the way he is able to fire up teammates on both sides of the ball.  The debate will never end and he will always have his detractors but Josh Allen is one dude that everyone would love to have on their team.

 

 

"He doesn't get enough fantasy points!"

 

...blow it out your fantasy a** and get a new hobby folks, because around here we dig W's.

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29 minutes ago, Jobot said:

I like him, but this was only one game.  Additionally it was one of the strangest games based on how it played out.  

Check out: (1) Wyoming v. Northern Illinois 9/3/2016; (2) Wyoming v. Boise State 10/29/2016; (3) Wyoming v. San Diego State 11/19/2016; (4) Wyoming v. Utah State 10/14/2017;  (5) Wyoming v. Colorado State 11/4/2017.  Each basically the same narrative.  Each a loss without Josh Allen late game craziness.

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13 minutes ago, OrediggerPoke said:

It is the same narrative at Buffalo as it was at Wyoming.  Josh will make some mistakes early in the contest.  Josh's overall stats won't be terribly impressive. But when the game is on the line in the second half, he comes to play and flat out makes plays.  Not to mention the way he is able to fire up teammates on both sides of the ball.  The debate will never end and he will always have his detractors but Josh Allen is one dude that everyone would love to have on their team.

Good point.  And the important second point is that the mistakes all are things he will learn from and improve.   He isn't just a winner, he's a student.  By this time next season, the Bills will have a guy who is a top 10 QB for three quarters and top 3 winner in the fourth quarter.   He's going to be big time good.  

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8 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Poyer said as much on OBL today--he said he would go into battle with Allen up to the end of his career, really appreciated Josh coming over to the defensive huddle in the 3rd-4th Q. 

 

He was asking for Poyer's wife's digits...

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5 hours ago, FiftyPercent said:

I would have given him a D if he was his usual 50% completion, so will give him a D+ for having 64%. Still almost cost them the game with all his turnovers.

 

5 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

C-

 

Got lucky all his turnovers did not lose them the game.  I had them for a loss on my picks, so I'm 0-1.

what are the chances you two are one of the same?

 

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I could feel his "haters" gloat in his 4 turnovers but most were weird flukes that won't likely happen, well not 4 in one half anyway. But then later he threw bad ones that weren't INT so it balances out. But he was good, again, with arm, feet, leadership, poise. And he led them to victory. 

 

I can't wait for some DEEP throws though. Beasly - and Daboll - have really opened up the short/medium game. I expect some deep passes galore at one point. Sweeny (#89) has caught a fairly long one for a TE and did so in the preseason games too. I was actually surprised the Jets accepted a 5 yard penalty at one point. Josh losing a down is worse for the Bills than losing 5 yards - his cannon arm makes up for that quick!

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Look at the NFL highlight video of the game - I just did. He threw some nice passes. Many 'medium deep" ones that look so effortless we tend to forget they were not dink and dunk passes. And one at the end that was almost picked off... hard not to cringe that the WR didn't come back for the ball, short pass or not.

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18 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

see. that's just it, I never said anything about the grade. trolls never were the sharpest knife in the drawer.

You called me a troll because I gave a low grade to a QB who gave the ball away 4 times. That's whiney. So basically everyone who gives a realistic take is a troll? You must have a hard time of things on the internet. #homersonly

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22 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

You called me a troll because I gave a low grade to a QB who gave the ball away 4 times. That's whiney. So basically everyone who gives a realistic take is a troll? You must have a hard time of things on the internet. #homersonly

Who knew borg are dim about football?

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18 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I love posts like this. Do you watch other NFL offenses? Brown's TD wasn't even notable compared to highlights from the other games. It is a standard top 2 receiver play that every competent offense in the league can make on a weekly basis.

 

I feel the same way about people criticizing Allen for the pick off of Beasley's hands. It is a standard NFL catch that starting receivers will make 99% of the time.

 

There is this weird misconception from certain folks on here that every good QB is perfectly precise on every throw, and that they're running their offenses all on their own without help. It boggles my mind.

If you asked any decent NFL WR about that play, he would say I need to catch that pass 100 out of 100 times, and be serious about it.

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17 hours ago, OrediggerPoke said:

Check out: (1) Wyoming v. Northern Illinois 9/3/2016; (2) Wyoming v. Boise State 10/29/2016; (3) Wyoming v. San Diego State 11/19/2016; (4) Wyoming v. Utah State 10/14/2017;  (5) Wyoming v. Colorado State 11/4/2017.  Each basically the same narrative.  Each a loss without Josh Allen late game craziness.

 

I don't doubt it.  And I don't watch a ton of college, but in general I wouldn't expect college team execution to come close to what to expect from the execution of an NFL team.  Over the course of 16 games I don't feel the Bills could survive/make the playoffs living like this.  But I could be wrong!

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4 hours ago, Jobot said:

 

I don't doubt it.  And I don't watch a ton of college, but in general I wouldn't expect college team execution to come close to what to expect from the execution of an NFL team.  Over the course of 16 games I don't feel the Bills could survive/make the playoffs living like this.  But I could be wrong!

The most Josh Allen play that I've ever seen was a play against San Diego State.  SDSU brought a huge blitz and Allen scrambled around and then tried to be hero and threw an ill advised cross body throw that was picked off by Damontae Kazee (last year's NFL leader in INTs).  Allen ran down Kazee for about 30 yards and lowered the boom knocking Kazee backwards flat on his ass and causing Kazee to fumble the football through the back of the end zone for a touch back and Wyoming's ball.

 

Allen will make mistakes but he will make up for it and lead the team to wins.  Stats are for losers.  That play will go down as an INT in the stat book but was big momentum to Wyoming.

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Since it all culminated in a win I'll chalk most of the few bone head plays up to bad luck and the fact that JA's still young with only a baker's dozen of regular season starts.

 

Don't know if I could be so kind if we were 0-1 but after all is said and done I really think this group and its QB are destined for great things.

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4 hours ago, OrediggerPoke said:

The most Josh Allen play that I've ever seen was a play against San Diego State.  SDSU brought a huge blitz and Allen scrambled around and then tried to be hero and threw an ill advised cross body throw that was picked off by Damontae Kazee (last year's NFL leader in INTs).  Allen ran down Kazee for about 30 yards and lowered the boom knocking Kazee backwards flat on his ass and causing Kazee to fumble the football through the back of the end zone for a touch back and Wyoming's ball.

 

Allen will make mistakes but he will make up for it and lead the team to wins.  Stats are for losers.  That play will go down as an INT in the stat book but was big momentum to Wyoming.

 

I love it, but I can never be convinced that's it's a realistic expectation to always successfully hit on the river in the NFL.  Playoffs are single elimination.

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On 9/9/2019 at 3:01 PM, ndirish1978 said:

I'm quick to defend Josh, but he did have several "hero ball" throws that we got lucky with. We can't expect to win if he turns the ball over this much. That said, if he can eliminate the dumb judgement calls, he is looking like a franchise QB.

I dont know about "several" I would say there were like 2?

 

I specifically saw him throw the ball away running to the sidelines instead of throwing back to the middle of the field.....a "hero ball" moment for him in the past.

 

Not disputing you....just I saw him do some things correcty that in the past he has not.

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