Schopp STFU

[wagon127]

I mean, to think one of the most successful radio talk show hosts in buffalo, might be skeptical of the bills having success in the coming season. How dare he! Believe me, he shows confidence and positivity when the team legitimately earns it. And thats why people tune in, to find out if today is that day. It works, its an act, don't be triggered by it!

[Johnnycage46]

7 minutes ago, wagon127 said:

I mean, to think one of the most successful radio talk show hosts in buffalo, might be skeptical of the bills having success in the coming season. How dare he! Believe me, he shows confidence and positivity when the team legitimately earns it. And thats why people tune in, to find out if today is that day. It works, its an act, don't be triggered by it!

 

Nah.  It's not that.  Schopp has admitted he loves baseball and hockey more than football and in fact is more lenient on the Sabres who have been just as if not more dismal than the Bills in recent years.  I think everything with Schopp's hate for the Bills has a personal angle.  The benching and ultimate trade of Tyrod, Josh Allen's high school tweets, etc.

[theRalph]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I am consistently amused by those who work themselves into a rage over (insert personality/network here) ... you're just hangry - have a Snickers

I'm not sure there was any rage...

I am out-of-state, so I normally listen to replays. Really like all the others...Howard, Jeremy, Bulldog, Sal, Paul, Nate... Schopp's schtick is deliberate, we're talking about the prick, right? 

[theRalph]

15 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

And yet you know all his guests and all his opinions and takes, but you listen to something else..okie dokie! Jesus you people are funny. 

Lol. And he's right on the money with a few of his points. 

[bdutton]

I Hate Shopp.  But he has some points I have to admit.

 

Last year when they were starting Peterman and then when he fell flat they put in Peterman (too soon imo).  When he got hurt it was Andersen.

 

Shopp was calling for Allen to start from the beginning to get him all the 1st team reps possible.  

 

Based on the outcome... it wouldn't hurt if the bills had done that from the start.

 

I was a big supporter of Peterman based on the preseason performances.  Who would have known he would have blown up so badly.

[theRalph]

On 8/20/2019 at 7:46 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

So people  want someone fired because they simply don’t agree with their opinion?  I’d argue that not being able to listen to other people’s opinions is a huge issue in this country. 

Who said anything about firing him?? He's great, the insufferable prick that he is.

[Beast]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You were one of the first people to bring up race in this thread.  Now you’re planning the victim. And of course you think racism is meaningless!

This thread sucks and should be moved to loserville. 

 

Victim? Victim of what? 

 

Go go cry yourself a river somewhere else. 

[Element115]

6 hours ago, Captain Murica said:

Btw anyone else think Schopp looks like a Wal-Mart Francesa? 

 

I tuned in for a few minutes when they had Terez Paylor on because he was visiting buffalo to do an article on the bills for Yahoo.  Terez mentioned how he liked Allen and thought he was a good player, along with stating he thinks the Bills will finish second in the division because there isn’t any drama like there is in Jersey and the dolphins will flat out stink. This all came after Schopp kept mentioning how he liked Lamar so much, and after Terez made this statement Schopp changed the subject. 

 

 

 

 

I listened to that, and I think Terez was just trying to be nice to Bills fans, because he knows Mahomes is a generational talent and the Bills made the mistake of passing on him in favor of Allen, who is not a generational talent. Bills f'ed up and Terez didn't want to put salt in the wound is the way I took his interview.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Element115

[K-9]

Schopp. Rhymes with nope.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

20 hours ago, Plano said:

It's not "racist again", he's always been a racist. Shown that through his character his entire life.

 

NEXT. You will lose. Your brain capacity is pathetic if you still blindly follow this twit, so you are doomed if you dare to go toe to toe with me.

 

Sit down and shut up

 

YAWN.

 

 

 

[ALF]

I'll listen on a Monday after a regular season game , not during the off season. I prefer to read the news and comments right here.

[teef]

3 hours ago, Element115 said:

 

I listened to that, and I think Terez was just trying to be nice to Bills fans, because he knows Mahomes is a generational talent and the Bills made the mistake of passing on him in favor of Allen, who is not a generational talent. Bills f'ed up and Terez didn't want to put salt in the wound is the way I took his interview.

this is an amazingly bizarre take.  can't someone just be complimenting the bills?

[Rad Likes The Bills]

4 hours ago, Element115 said:

 

I listened to that, and I think Terez was just trying to be nice to Bills fans, because he knows Mahomes is a generational talent and the Bills made the mistake of passing on him in favor of Allen, who is not a generational talent. Bills f'ed up and Terez didn't want to put salt in the wound is the way I took his interview.

Dude.. what are you on about???

[CincyBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Element115 said:

 

I listened to that, and I think Terez was just trying to be nice to Bills fans, because he knows Mahomes is a generational talent and the Bills made the mistake of passing on him in favor of Allen, who is not a generational talent. Bills f'ed up and Terez didn't want to put salt in the wound is the way I took his interview.

 

I think my head will explode if I hear this any more.  FACTS don't seem to matter around this subject:

 

*  The Bills did not pick Allen over Mahomes unless you believe that in April of 2017 the Bills front office had already determined that Allen would be a better NFL QB then Mahomes AND that Allen would be available to them in the 2018 draft.  BTW, had Allen even declared for the 2018 NFL draft in April 2017?

 

*  On this topic it helps to look at who else needing a QB passed on Mahomes:

 

1) The Chicago Bears took Trubisky with the #2 pick so they must have thought he was better then Mahomes.  And for the record I think Allen will at least match Trubisky as an NFL QB.

 

2)  The SF 49's passed on Mahomes with the 3rd pick.  That season they started out 0 - 9 and were so desperate for a QB that they traded with NE to get Jimmy Garoppolo who they immediately inserted in as QB.  Why did they pass on a generational talent especially one that was so obviously generational?

 

3)  The NY Jets picked ahead of KC and they didn't take Mahomes.  Yet the very next year they used a 3rd round pick to take Sam Darnold.  Is he going to be a better QB then Mahomes?

 

Kudos to Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs for seeing how good Mahomes was going to be.  Hopefully, folks will be saying that about the Bills & Allen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Element115]

29 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

*  The Bills did not pick Allen over Mahomes unless you believe that in April of 2017 the Bills front office had already determined that Allen would be a better NFL QB then Mahomes AND that Allen would be available to them in the 2018 draft.  BTW, had Allen even declared for the 2018 NFL draft in April 2017?

 

It is a mistake to think McDermott, and his soon to be new GM Beane did not discuss Allen during the 2017 draft, they knew he'd be coming out. Maybe not to the point of them deciding it was Allen over Mahomes, but if they did not have a file on Allen and were already targeting him, even to a small degree, then that would be quite worrisome. I'm also confident McDermott wanted to fix the defense before addressing the offense and simply did not give a thought to drafting Mahomes, which could turn out to be a huge blunder for the Bills and McDermott's career.

 

And it doesn't really matter if it is not exactly Allen being picked instead of Mahomes, the history is already written and that is how everyone sees it except a % of Bills fans...

 

Terez basically said, Mahomes is generational, Allen has pro bowl potential (this is a back handed slap in the face to SB potential), and was throwing Bills fans a conciliatory bone by saying he thinks Allen can be good.

 

So much is riding on Allen's performance this year.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Element115

[teef]

26 minutes ago, Element115 said:

 

It is a mistake to think McDermott, and his soon to be new GM Beane did not discuss Allen during the 2017 draft, they knew he'd be coming out. Maybe not to the point of them deciding it was Allen over Mahomes, but if they did not have a file on Allen and were already targeting him, even to a small degree, then that would be quite worrisome. I'm also confident McDermott wanted to fix the defense before addressing the offense and simply did not give a thought to drafting Mahomes, which could turn out to be a huge blunder for the Bills and McDermott's career.

 

And it doesn't really matter if it is not exactly Allen being picked instead of Mahomes, the history is already written and that is how everyone sees it except a % of Bills fans...

 

Terez basically said, Mahomes is generational, Allen has pro bowl potential (this is a back handed slap in the face to SB potential), and was throwing Bills fans a conciliatory bone by saying he thinks Allen can be good.

 

So much is riding on Allen's performance this year.

so...how long before you go crazy again and need another name change?

[plenzmd1]

13 hours ago, Captain Murica said:

Btw anyone else think Schopp looks like a Wal-Mart Francesa? 

 

I tuned in for a few minutes when they had Terez Paylor on because he was visiting buffalo to do an article on the bills for Yahoo.  Terez mentioned how he liked Allen and thought he was a good player, along with stating he thinks the Bills will finish second in the division because there isn’t any drama like there is in Jersey and the dolphins will flat out stink. This all came after Schopp kept mentioning how he liked Lamar so much, and after Terez made this statement Schopp changed the subject. 

 

 

 

I listened to the Perez segment this morning...i really don't understand where your take is coming from?

 

I thought it interesting after Perez says he likes Allen, Schoop does not disagree with him at all, then Perez says hey..make no bones about it, Bills screwed up not taking Mahomes..he is a generational talent, and Allen MAYBE can make a probowl. 

 

Schoop deos not pile on and go into why he does not believe in Allen, but goes on to say he agreed then with the trade, and would do it again as his philosophy on the draft is the more picks ya have, the better the chances..in other words he thinks a lot of the draft is a crapshoot.

 

That is an honest guy who is standing by his take and owning it, even though in this case it appears to be entirely wrong...what is possibly wrong with that?

 

And, i was in the camp of taking Lamar too and keeping the picks...pretty sure that was a wrong take too but this season should be the one where we really get a better idea on that

[Jauronimo]

15 hours ago, Element115 said:

 

Nice way to insult a bunch of people from WNY who happen to like their show.  Nice d-bag move if that's what you were going for.

That comment was 100% aimed at you and no one else.  Its personal.

[Element115]

2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

That comment was 100% aimed at you and no one else.  Its personal.

 

It actually would be nice to get data on % of how many local Bills fans listen to the show.  I assume the vast majority of them would be driving.

[plenzmd1]

7 minutes ago, Element115 said:

 

It actually would be nice to get data on % of how many local Bills fans listen to the show.  I assume the vast majority of them would be driving.

as is all radio

[Element115]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

as is all radio

 

I get home before the show ends so I switch to listening on my PC when I get home.

[plenzmd1]

3 minutes ago, Element115 said:

 

I get home before the show ends so I switch to listening on my PC when I get home.

but i would think 90% of radio , especially live radio, is listened too whilst driving. I think podcasts would be the same..although now I am hearing more people listening to podcasts while working out

[Element115]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

but i would think 90% of radio , especially live radio, is listened too whilst driving. I think podcasts would be the same..although now I am hearing more people listening to podcasts while working out

 

Yeah, for me it is Joe Rogan at work, Schopp & Bulldog on the ride home, later at night it's Tim Pool on Youtube.  I don't watch much TV anymore.

[teef]

Just now, Element115 said:

 

Yeah, for me it is Joe Rogan at work, Schopp & Bulldog on the ride home, later at night it's Tim Pool on Youtube.  I don't watch much TV anymore.

do you talk to humans anymore?

[Chandler#81]

7 minutes ago, teef said:

do you talk to humans anymore?

 

tick.. tick.. tick..

[Nextmanup]

46 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

but i would think 90% of radio , especially live radio, is listened too whilst driving. I think podcasts would be the same..although now I am hearing more people listening to podcasts while working out

I listen to podcasts all the time as a form of entertainment, mostly replacing traditional TV viewing or reading.

 

I never listen to podcasts while driving.

 

I think a lot of people in office environments listen to live radio or podcasts as well.

 

For years, while working, I would put Schopp & Bulldog on in the background out of habit.

 

I stopped that about 6 months ago and haven't been back yet.

 

They spend too much time talking about Mike Schopp's fantasy leagues nowadays!  A subject I have less than zero interest in.  When they switch to that, I switch off.  

 

I also find that it's much better to listen late, with the show being recorded.  That automatically edits out commercials for you, and allows you to FF through the slow bits when they are talking about their children, Schopp's fantasy teams, and the hour or two of pure filler they put into their daily 4 hour show.

 

You can move through an hour pretty quickly that way if there is nothing there of interest or substance, and move to the next hour.

 

If/when you find them sunk into an interesting discussion, I stop and enjoy the show.

I find that on most days, you probably aren't going to get more than one good segment of conversation that you really enjoy.

 

So the trick is to find that quickly and easily.

 

 

[ngbills]

3 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I think my head will explode if I hear this any more.  FACTS don't seem to matter around this subject:

 

*  The Bills did not pick Allen over Mahomes unless you believe that in April of 2017 the Bills front office had already determined that Allen would be a better NFL QB then Mahomes AND that Allen would be available to them in the 2018 draft.  BTW, had Allen even declared for the 2018 NFL draft in April 2017?

 

*  On this topic it helps to look at who else needing a QB passed on Mahomes:

 

1) The Chicago Bears took Trubisky with the #2 pick so they must have thought he was better then Mahomes.  And for the record I think Allen will at least match Trubisky as an NFL QB.

 

2)  The SF 49's passed on Mahomes with the 3rd pick.  That season they started out 0 - 9 and were so desperate for a QB that they traded with NE to get Jimmy Garoppolo who they immediately inserted in as QB.  Why did they pass on a generational talent especially one that was so obviously generational?

 

3)  The NY Jets picked ahead of KC and they didn't take Mahomes.  Yet the very next year they used a 3rd round pick to take Sam Darnold.  Is he going to be a better QB then Mahomes?

 

Kudos to Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs for seeing how good Mahomes was going to be.  Hopefully, folks will be saying that about the Bills & Allen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More than one team can make a mistake right? 

 

The Bears probably feel ok with the decision. They were 12-4 and feel good about their QB.

 

The 49ers, Jets and Bills are still in wait and see mode. All have QB's that could be the answer. I would argue any of the three would take Mahomes in a heartbeat over the current QB. 

 

Remember, the reason the Bills are tied to Mahomes the most is because they traded the pick. Yes others could have drafted Mahomes higher in the draft but the Bills traded the pick he was drafted with meaning they did not value him at #10. Subtle but meaningful - Bears can say at #2 they did not value Mahomes there, but at #10 they would have for example. Bills are the only team that passed at him that far down the board. 

[Element115]

56 minutes ago, teef said:

do you talk to humans anymore?

 

Are you human?

[teef]

20 minutes ago, Element115 said:

 

Are you human?

when we finally meet and hug, the warmth from my body will prove to you that i'm very human.  with human needs.

[ngbills]

Did anyone see the NFL played a game on an 80 yard field? Not sure what else can be said to show that pre-season is a joke...

[bbb]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Did anyone see the NFL played a game on an 80 yard field? Not sure what else can be said to show that pre-season is a joke...

 

And, I know ticket prices were super high, but nobody was buying them, so they lowered them.  Not sure how many people finally went to the game.................But, then because of the field, the Packers didn't play 33 players they had planned on playing.  What a ripoff 

[US Egg]

They're still trying to grow the sport in the booming province of Manitoba.

 

Next August, NFL braintrust plan on taking Moose Jaw Saskatchewan by storm.

 

.....unless of course the September winter storms there are a month early.

Edited August 23, 2019 by I am the egg man

[first_and_ten]

On 8/20/2019 at 6:02 PM, theRalph said:

Schopp talks Bills in the same manner that one might discuss, say, constipation. There is no media personality, even on the national level, that goes to the extremes Schopp does in dismissing ANYTHING of a positive nature with the Bills and especially Josh Allen whom he despises. Schopp, that insufferable douch bag, used to have ex-QB now fine analyst Dan Orlovsky on the program regularly when Dan was down on Josh Allen. Now, Orlovsky is praising Allen and the douche bag is dismissing it with the notion that "nothing in preseason means anything" and no assessment is possible.

 

With deepest apologies to all the haters, Debbie Downers, and the like, it must be said that Allen is meeting the eyeball test this meaningless preseason. It's OK to be optimistic, it really is.

 

Mike Schopp, please bottle the Bills acid and STFU. And Bulldog, grow a pair and stand up to this idiot once in a while.

 

Wow, I could not have said it better!!!   Kudos to the Ralph

[Happy Days Lois & Clark]

WGR should call Matthew Fairborn to see if he would be interested in replacing Mike Schopp on the radio.

[The Wiz]

On 8/20/2019 at 6:02 PM, theRalph said:

Schopp talks Bills in the same manner that one might discuss, say, constipation. There is no media personality, even on the national level, that goes to the extremes Schopp does in dismissing ANYTHING of a positive nature with the Bills and especially Josh Allen whom he despises. Schopp, that insufferable douch bag, used to have ex-QB now fine analyst Dan Orlovsky on the program regularly when Dan was down on Josh Allen. Now, Orlovsky is praising Allen and the douche bag is dismissing it with the notion that "nothing in preseason means anything" and no assessment is possible.

 

With deepest apologies to all the haters, Debbie Downers, and the like, it must be said that Allen is meeting the eyeball test this meaningless preseason. It's OK to be optimistic, it really is.

 

Mike Schopp, please bottle the Bills acid and STFU. And Bulldog, grow a pair and stand up to this idiot once in a while.

It's funny you bring up the orlovsky part of it because I caught about 2 minutes of the pregame on Friday and Schopp was talking to Sal and was saying he didn't put any stock into allen making presnap adjustments in the preseason (exactly what Orlovsky was praising allen for) .

 

Sal basically said those are the things you want to see happening during preseason and the numbers are less important. 

 

In is usual fashion, schopp backed down from actual football talk and moved on to something else. 

Edited August 25, 2019 by The Wiz

[Putin]

25 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

It's funny you bring up the orlovsky part of it because I caught about 2 minutes of the pregame on Friday and Schopp was talking to Sal and was saying he didn't put any stock into allen making presnap adjustments in the preseason (exactly what Orlovsky was praising allen for) .

 

Sal basically said those are the things you want to see happening during preseason and the numbers are less important. 

 

In is usual fashion, schopp backed down from actual football talk and moved on to something else. 

If Allen shows a big improvement this year and we make the playoffs , for me personally it will be EXTRA sweet !!! The EXTRA part will be to see all the Allen haters to eat soooo much crow !!! 

Gooooo Bills !!!!!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

 

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

It's funny you bring up the orlovsky part of it because I caught about 2 minutes of the pregame on Friday and Schopp was talking to Sal and was saying he didn't put any stock into allen making presnap adjustments in the preseason (exactly what Orlovsky was praising allen for) .

 

Sal basically said those are the things you want to see happening during preseason and the numbers are less important. 

 

In is usual fashion, schopp backed down from actual football talk and moved on to something else. 

 

Schopp is a baseball guy. He doesn't know football. Which is odd for a town that doesn't h ave an MLB team but does have an NFL team.

 

[Bing Bong]

On 8/20/2019 at 5:34 PM, bbb said:

Buffalo content?  Where?  

Podcasts brutha. Locked on Bills and Cover1 for starters.

[Phil The Thrill]

10 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Podcasts brutha. Locked on Bills and Cover1 for starters.

 

I would recommend Bills Beat with Joe B and Matt Fairburn ahead of anything else.  Sometimes it worth it to check Radio.com for guests on WGR too 

[bbb]

4 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Podcasts brutha. Locked on Bills and Cover1 for starters.

 

Are those two separate podcasts.  I use Overcast, and last week, I typed in cover1 and ended up with Locked on Bills - or the other way around.  

Either case, it was some Marino guy, not Dan.