******* Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Said they are still speaking with his agent 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) I read that Seattle is also talking to him. Will come down to us vs Seahawks I think. Ravens and Saints appear to be out. Edited April 29, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Baltimore radio Saturday said they were still talking to him. So who knows. Prob go to highest bidder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, ******* said: Said they are still speaking with his agent I can't find this, you got a linky to a presser or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I can't find this, you got a linky to a presser or something? From a Brandon Beane interview on WGR this morning at around 8:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet FollowFollow @RapSheet More FA pass-rusher Ziggy Ansah, who just wrapped up his #Ravens visit today, saw expert Dr. Neal ElAttrache on Monday. Source said the reviews were positive, his shoulder is structurally sound & he should be cleared by mid-August. The key is getting strength back in his shoulder. 2:50 PM - 24 Apr 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I'll wait and see what Dr House has to say about his shoulder 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Should be cleared by mid-August... that does not sound promising. But maybe that's how we land him. We have the cap space to take a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: From a Brandon Beane interview on WGR this morning at around 8:30. Thanks Ace! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I don’t see what he brings to the table that sets him apart from Zo, Murphy and Lawson. They can get the same production from their rotation that they’d get from him. I’d rather see them grab a younger guy hungry for a shot like philips last year than spend millions on Ziggy. Best chance is a one year prove it deal and he actually stays healthy and makes an impact, I would hate to see a multi year deal though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 This whole thing feels off. I am nervous that whatever team signs him will have to pay wayyyy too much and end up getting very little production. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see what he brings to the table that sets him apart from Zo, Murphy and Lawson. They can get the same production from their rotation that they’d get from him. I’d rather see them grab a younger guy hungry for a shot like philips last year than spend millions on Ziggy. Best chance is a one year prove it deal and he actually stays healthy and makes an impact, I would hate to see a multi year deal though But is there a younger guy who is hungry for a shot that could end up being better? There are young and hungry guys, but how many actually end up being really good? They have the space to spend a little, and he could be worth it since Murphy is barely healthy enough to see the field, Zo is getti g old, and Shaq is being debated on whether they will pick up his fifth year option. There may be a big need after theis season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, DallasMac said: I'll wait and see what Dr House has to say about his shoulder Dr. House wouldn’t bother with Ansah, too boring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: But is there a younger guy who is hungry for a shot that could end up being better? There are young and hungry guys, but how many actually end up being really good? They have the space to spend a little, and he could be worth it since Murphy is barely healthy enough to see the field, Zo is getti g old, and Shaq is being debated on whether they will pick up his fifth year option. There may be a big need after theis season. After this season there will be millions of options between draft and free agency. And of course there could be options before the season depending on cuts and practice squads. I wouldn’t hate the signing, unless they gave out a multi year deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 If.Bills were sold on Lawson, it's unlikely they'd be pressing for Ansah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 sounds more like maybe if hes cheap enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This whole thing feels off. I am nervous that whatever team signs him will have to pay wayyyy too much and end up getting very little production. IMO, he's probably only getting a one year deal at this point anyway. Since he's not likely to be cleared before mid-August, the teams still in on him may prefer to wait until Week 1 to sign him in order to avoid any guaranteed money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I'm not sure I ever remember a year with this much of a lack of vet trades during the draft (outside Rosen I'm not sure a single current player was traded during the draft) and we have yet to see cap casualty cuts. We have the cap space to add a couple "splash" vets if they do shake free, I really hope we use it considering we still stand to be well under the cap next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: IMO, he's probably only getting a one year deal at this point anyway. Since he's not likely to be cleared before mid-August, the teams still in on him may prefer to wait until Week 1 to sign him in order to avoid any guaranteed money. The problem is that when there are multiple teams "in" on one guy, teams will sometimes do stupid things like give injured players multi-year deals. That is why this whole thing feels wrong. I think he is holding out for a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) The dude still isn’t healthy. It’s be a mistake to sign him now. I’m sure he’ll get signed by someone once training camps open and teams get an update on his status Edited April 29, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: But is there a younger guy who is hungry for a shot that could end up being better? There are young and hungry guys, but how many actually end up being really good? They have the space to spend a little, and he could be worth it since Murphy is barely healthy enough to see the field, Zo is getti g old, and Shaq is being debated on whether they will pick up his fifth year option. There may be a big need after theis season. That young and hungry guy out there imo is Shane Ray. He sticks out like a sore thumb in UFA. He had 8 sacks in 2016. He's a bit of a tweener, but so what? He's a little bigger than Eli Harold. I think he needs a shot to be a 4-3 defensive end. I'd give him a two year deal because he's the type of player who could replace Jerry Hughes. He has that kind of upside imo. I'm going to keep talking about Shane Ray until we sign him lol. Ray visited the Ravens and the and did not sign, so perhaps he is seeking too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 He isn’t going to camp. So focus on the more pressing option right now. Decision on Shaq Lawson’s 5th year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This whole thing feels off. I am nervous that whatever team signs him will have to pay wayyyy too much and end up getting very little production. It feels off to me, too. I didn't follow him, and maybe his production fell off because of injury, but Ziggy gave me the impression that he was something of a one year wonder. It seems every year or two there's an edge rusher who comes I to the league and explodes with double digit sacks, then he fades. Teams figure out how to block him, or they attack weaknesses in his game, and he becomes ordinary. Ziggy gives me that impression, and add to that the injury concern. I have doubts that he is a multi-year solution. So, yeah, I can see why teams don't want to give him a multi-year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: The problem is that when there are multiple teams "in" on one guy, teams will sometimes do stupid things like give injured players multi-year deals. That is why this whole thing feels wrong. I think he is holding out for a better deal. That would be my best guess - teams are offering Ansah a 1 year "prove it" deal with little guaranteed and a bunch of incentives Meanwhile, Ansah undoubtedly wants multiple years and guaranteed $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just wait. The post Draft Veteran Dump will start soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Just wait. The post Draft Veteran Dump will start soon. One of the less ballyhooed impactful recent changes is that there aren't intermediate roster cutdowns until just before the season anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Two things to keep in mind: Bad shoulder and it's very likely he is older than they are saying. He's probably early 30's. Multiple reports saying they listed him as 2 years younger to help his draft position. I'd much prefer a trade for Clowney if it made financial sense to do so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One of the less ballyhooed impactful recent changes is that there aren't intermediate roster cutdowns until just before the season anymore. No but there still is the Veteran Purge post Draft. I am not sure who will be ditched. But look at Steelers, trade up Draft a MLB and cut their starter within 48 hours. When Ansah won’t be cleared until August you can wait on that and focus on this purge maybe snag someone prior to cut for a later round pick or player for player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: That young and hungry guy out there imo is Shane Ray. He sticks out like a sore thumb in UFA. He had 8 sacks in 2016. He's a bit of a tweener, but so what? He's a little bigger than Eli Harold. I think he needs a shot to be a 4-3 defensive end. I'd give him a two year deal because he's the type of player who could replace Jerry Hughes. He has that kind of upside imo. I'm going to keep talking about Shane Ray until we sign him lol. Ray visited the Ravens and the and did not sign, so perhaps he is seeking too much money. There has to be an off-field reason why he hasn't been picked up by someone. Pass rushers are the second most valued players in the game. Makes no sense nobody has taken a flyer on him. I remember seeing a story about him and his father had been a prep superstar and veered off the path, possibly due to mental illness so maybe he's got something going on there too. Don't know but it's beyond odd that someone with his pedigree and pass rush ability is jobless at this time of year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see what he brings to the table that sets him apart from Zo, Murphy and Lawson. They can get the same production from their rotation that they’d get from him. I’d rather see them grab a younger guy hungry for a shot like philips last year than spend millions on Ziggy. Best chance is a one year prove it deal and he actually stays healthy and makes an impact, I would hate to see a multi year deal though And what happens when Murphy and Shaq get hurt like they regularly do? Good depth and competition matters. It’s just been so long since we’ve had it, we view it as overkill. We NEED another pass rushing DE if we want to take that next step. Not saying that ansah is even good, but he’s better than Yarbrough. I’m sure of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He isn’t going to camp. So focus on the more pressing option right now. Decision on Shaq Lawson’s 5th year option. That one's easy. Pass. If he goes off and turns into a DE that's worth $10M+ just franchise him and work out a longer term deal. Let the free agency carrot bring out the best in him.........he's had some self-admitted motivation issues. Not worth the risk of Eric Wood-ing yourself for the difference between cap and option figures when you are as cap flush as the Bills are next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: There has to be an off-field reason why he hasn't been picked up by someone. Pass rushers are the second most valued players in the game. Makes no sense nobody has taken a flyer on him. I remember seeing a story about him and his father had been a prep superstar and veered off the path, possibly due to mental illness so maybe he's got something going on there too. Don't know but it's beyond odd that someone with his pedigree and pass rush ability is jobless at this time of year. I don't think we need to go into his pedigree for the reason. He's had, I think, now 4 different surgeries on the same wrist (ligament injury). It's not a stretch to believe there may be career-limiting functional impairment as well as loss of strength/weight 'cuz he can't lift while recovering.https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/6/6/17436542/report-shane-ray-to-have-wrist-surgery-and-be-sidelined-for-3-months (article has an error saying same injury that cost him most of 2018 season when they mean 2017) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That one's easy. Pass. If he goes off and turns into a DE that's worth $10M+ just franchise him and work out a longer term deal. Let the free agency carrot bring out the best in him.........he's had some self-admitted motivation issues. Not worth the risk of Eric Wood-ing yourself for the difference between cap and option figures when you are as cap flush as the Bills are next season. if he goes off you let him go and get that comp pick baby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: The problem is that when there are multiple teams "in" on one guy, teams will sometimes do stupid things like give injured players multi-year deals. That is why this whole thing feels wrong. I think he is holding out for a better deal. That's fine. If he wants to play poker, let him. Can't blame him and his agent for wanting to get the most guaranteed money that they can. It doesn't mean that Beane and the Bills have to blink. They can simply walk away from the table. I don't get the feeling that the front office is chasing Ansah. They're keeping an eye on his situation and if it lines up with their needs at what they feel is a fair price, they'll pull the trigger...but I honestly don't think that Beane will give him more than a one year 'prove it' deal and Ansah won't get stupid money from anyone, despite what he thinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: if he goes off you let him go and get that comp pick baby My guess is that they will be back in the free agent market next year............the last time the Bills signed such a huge crop of middling free agents Robert Royal ended up being the only "keeper"............ so they might not have the comp formula to get a pick back but yes that is also a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That one's easy. Pass. If he goes off and turns into a DE that's worth $10M+ just franchise him and work out a longer term deal. Let the free agency carrot bring out the best in him.........he's had some self-admitted motivation issues. Not worth the risk of Eric Wood-ing yourself for the difference between cap and option figures when you are as cap flush as the Bills are next season. On the whole, you make some really good comments, but every time you say this you just lose all credibility, and I'm left thinking this guy has no idea what he is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 4 hours ago, ******* said: Said they are still speaking with his agent Must be one hell of a phone bill.Been on the phone for 5 weeks now 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: On the whole, you make some really good comments, but every time you say this you just lose all credibility, and I'm left thinking this guy has no idea what he is talking about. Sorry, Eric. Unnecessary commitments of cap space to try to buy the locker room are so "old Billsy". Beane also added incentives to McCoy's contract at the same time he extended Wood. As if he wasn't already double dipping on his Eagles contract. How accommodating! Fortunately McBeane inherited a franchise with few cap commitments for 2018 and beyond. That allowed Beane to murder a mountain of Pegula bucks and play the martyr when a big chunk of that dead money was due to things like signing AJ McCarron and Corey Coleman and EWoods unnecessary contract extension etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, DallasMac said: I'll wait and see what Dr House has to say about his shoulder He will say check for LUPUS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Must be one hell of a phone bill.Been on the phone for 5 weeks now I think they're okay. Rumor has it that Ralph's estate threw in this little beauty when they sold the team... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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