ColoradoBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Mopreme said: Another lackluster pick. A lot of talent left including some who have a chance to compete for a starting position. This guy's only chance is special teams and then practice squad. 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Slow. Small. Religious. Waste of a pick but at this point these are all marginal guys. No WR or pass rusher to develop yet. But at least they aren't taking unathletic guards with no hope of making the team. 4 hours ago, 100DollarBills said: What gets my blood boiling is losing and not having a WR worth a F over the last 10 years due to ineptness. Some of us have high standards, thankfully Beane seems to be fairly competent, but so far it doesn’t appear to be so for the WR department. I just want to take a minute to thank you guys for all you do. I have been a fan of this team for more decades than I wish to admit but these posts have convinced me to abandon this team. You all are truly inspirational! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, 100DollarBills said: Why would I do that. I can be highly critical of the team and still support them. Might have to look up the definition of "support". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 He has a battle to make ,this team but he is a battler. Could be a PS guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Rocket94 said: Special teams are a vital part of a team! People tend to forget that. I sort of agree. I think special teams play is always a good indication of roster depth. Obviously Crossman was a very serious issue, but we’ve gutted the roster the last two years as well. It hasn’t been a surprise they haven’t been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: He has a battle to make ,this team but he is a battler. Could be a PS guy. After Bush S depth is terrible at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mango said: I sort of agree. I think special teams play is always a good indication of roster depth. Obviously Crossman was a very serious issue, but we’ve gutted the roster the last two years as well. It hasn’t been a surprise they haven’t been good. I agree...a team in transition with a fan base demanding a winner...new gm and coach...whole new philosophy. Assemble all talent that resources allow and make it work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 The fourth and final safety spot is currently occupied by Neal, and I definitely like Johnson more as a prospect. He'll have every opportunity. CB is absolutely set with White, Wallace, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, Gaines, and Pitts, who the Bills love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 19 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Slow. Small. Religious. Waste of a pick but at this point these are all marginal guys. No WR or pass rusher to develop yet. But at least they aren't taking unathletic guards with no hope of making the team. I'm about the furthest you can get from religious and never have been, but how is one being religious a knock against them as a player? That's absolutely mind boggling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I wouldn't define sticking as remaining on the roster for a season and then winding up driving for UPS. That's pretty much what I expect for Ray Ray. We struck gold with Foster. The Proehl/Ray Ray/Foster angle would be really short sighted. I'm talking big picture. It seems like there has been just as many if not more UDFA receivers "stick" in comparison to 6/7th round picks. The sample size is a little unfair to the draft picks because there are far more UDFA's. Overall, the point I'm trying to get across is that it doesn't really concern me that they didn't take a flier on a late round WR. Wouldn't have minded seeing one taken earlier, but it is what it is. There will be UDFA's that can contribute. It's up to regime to identify those guys. Another Foster is unlikely, but you gotta dig. In part, there are just sooooo many interchangeable guys that deep in a class. 6 ft tall, 200 lbs, can run at least a 4.6ish and catch isn’t that rare of a body type or baseline skill set and it’s a position a lot of kids gravitate towards. 6 minutes ago, Rampage said: I'm about the furthest you can get from religious and never have been, but how is one being religious a knock against them as a player? That's absolutely mind boggling. Mentioned it earlier- I can’t speak for that post but I think the comments less about him being bad for being religious and more about the idea that McD might overvalue guys that he relates to on that front. We’ve seen the commentary bubble up a few places (peterman for instance) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 The Bills needed a bit more depth at safety. I think this is the exact kind of player that will push the current backups and have a chance at developing. I can't say much about late round picks other than is this a guy that can at least come in and push current guys on the roster? Yes, and possibly have a ST impact is a nice bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 12:53 PM, d_wag said: I thought neal showed very well as a rookie, core ST guy who showed well when given limited D snaps, would be disappointing to cut a guy like that one year in to his rookie deal I think Neal did alright last year, and he should be given more opportunities. Drafting Jaquan Johnson adds more competition, which is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I like his odds of making the team. Team captain on a very good defense. Seems like a natural fit behind Hyde and boost ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 This guy was super productive and most people seem to think he would have been a 2-3 round pick if he didn't run such a terrible 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: This guy was super productive and most people seem to think he would have been a 2-3 round pick if he didn't run such a terrible 40. As a Hurricane fan I'd say they got him about where he belonged to go. He was solid but unspectacular. He's got the tools to play in the NFL though. The upside with a lot of Miami prospects is they usually have more undeveloped talent entering the league than players at other big name schools. The program has a lot of room for improvement in how they get players ready for the NFL. So there is usually some room to improve. Also quite a few of their players are under recruited and under hyped because of the depth of talent at local HS's. Johnson was a pretty good recruit though. 4 star and a top 15 safety in his class so he ended up right about where he entered as a prospect. Consistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 5:28 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Bummed this thread about Jaquan has turned into a WR B word-fest. Every drafted player thread with the exception of Oliver has been WR B word fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 11:02 AM, Rampage said: I'm about the furthest you can get from religious and never have been, but how is one being religious a knock against them as a player? That's absolutely mind boggling. ...mind boggling?...it is down right repulsive.....how sad AND ignorant....must be a new combine measurable I missed..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...mind boggling?...it is down right repulsive.....how sad AND ignorant....must be a new combine measurable I missed..... Dramatic much? Ill again echo that I think the implication here is that McD had his friend, this guys DC, chirping in his ear about what a great young guy he is and maybe McD likes the character of men of the lord, perhaps even at the expense of a few ticks in the 40 or excusing an arm that’s a little weaker. If this same player was at ASU maybe he doesn’t get the call? I suppose it ends up being a Rorschach test for what you think of things like playing peterman and drafting proehl. i do think late in day 3 they’ve been ok taking risks on guys they like instead of the best football players. It doesn’t bug me much though as you normally see 1-2 starters total in round 6. If they throw a pick at investing in their intel pipeline and having a good personality at camp - go for it. It’s not like he’s truly less likely then anyone else on the board at that point and he will be easy to root for. Hopefully we don’t see him get burned though. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Dramatic much? Ill again echo that I think the implication here is that McD had his friend, this guys DC, chirping in his ear about what a great young guy he is and maybe McD likes the character of men of the lord, perhaps even at the expense of a few ticks in the 40 or excusing an arm that’s a little weaker. If this same player was at ASU maybe he doesn’t get the call? I suppose it ends up being a Rorschach test for what you think of things like playing peterman and drafting proehl. i do think late in day 3 they’ve been ok taking risks on guys they like instead of the best football players. It doesn’t bug me much though as you normally see 1-2 starters total in round 6. If they throw a pick at investing in their intel pipeline and having a good personality at camp - go for it. It’s not like he’s truly less likely then anyone else on the board at that point and he will be easy to root for. Hopefully we don’t see him get burned though. ?♂️ Pretty sure the vast majority of NFL players identify as Christian. Some more devout than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 This off season has significantly upgraded the special teams units. This pick will help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 i was going to start a thread but i'm having trouble posting screenshots of the comments, anyway, iv'e never seen such positive feedback on a 6th rd pick. On twitter, a few Gator fans responded to me and others and are just raving about this kid. I understand fan bases have a tendency to overrate our players but there are tons of positive comments and really no negative ones. " You got the steal of the draft" " You guys hit the jackpot with this kid" " Just wait til you realize what type of player this kid is". Basically just alot of stuff along those lines, so it interested me to do some digging and i was pretty blown away this kid wasn't taken before the 4th. What caught my eye most was his instincts, which is a fantastic trait for a S. Obviously he's not leap frogging Poyer or Hyde but I think he can leap frog Bush. Nonetheless, i think he's a lock to make this roster, and we quietly added some nice depth behind our 2 stud safeties and McD loves his Big Nickel package (2 LB, 3 S, 2 CB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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