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After listening to the Howard Picks the Bills segment on WGR this morning, and they (completely reasonably) refuse to pick the Bills over the Pats as long as Brady is there. So, this got me thinking. What has to happen TO OUR TEAM (so no NE plane crashes) through the draft, June 1st vet cuts/trades, etc, for the Bills to conceivably PASS the Pats this year, with TB12 still there on their team? 

 

I will I’ll take a shot at it.

 

In my eyes, using what I’ve seen as a possibility, though not probable, in doing about a dozen mock drafts over the last week on both The Draft Network and First-Pick.com, and taking advantage of guys I could see possibly falling, here are the moves that are not out of the relm of possibilities:

 

-Either Quinnen Williams falls to us at #9 and we ***** him up, OR we trade a 4th or 5th for Gerald McCoy. 

-If Quinnen doesn’t fall (I won’t even say Bosa because that’s impossible he falls that far), than we get either Josh Allen, Brian Burns, or Montez Sweat at #9

-someone between Fant, Metcalf, Hock, or Harry/Brown/Butler falls to our 2nd rounder, or we trade up and grab them in the 20's of the 1st round

-we pick up OT Bobby Evans-Oklahoma and one of G-Benzschawel- Wisconsin or G- Samia- Oklahoma, or possibly even Polite in that 4th round range.

-somehow, whether it’s from guys I’ve already said, or someone else later like a Sternberger, Moreau, Nauta, or Warring after the 1st 2 rounds, I think we need to get out of this draft with a productive TE prospect who can step in as the definitive #2 TE, and down the road have #1 upside

-Pick up a 3rd RB who could produce as a short-term starter if McCoy and Gore are either injured or ineffective, whether that’s a guy we find in the draft, a TJ Yeldon, or a vet who gets cut off of a team at some point.

 

***I know this sounds like a lot to fall perfectly just to beat the Pats, but that’s not what I’m getting at. I’m trying to picture a scenario where we are favorites going into a NE game THIS year, and this is what I would need to see to think that’s possible. I’m not saying the Bills CAN’T beat NE unless they do all of these things. This is just how we become favorites.***

 

 

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1.  Have Allen continue his development

2.  Have Daboll with our new O line coach put in a scheme that fits the new guys up front, thus allowing our running game to be resurrected and thus give our young QB time to throw

3.  Draft Oliver at 9, or Williams if through some miracle he is there at 9.  And with this expect our young MLB to continue to progress.  You want to beat Brady to need pressure up the middle; a young DT that can do that along with Edmunds blitzing should help there.

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We are not a few impactful rookies away from dethroning the Pats*.  I wish it was that close.

 

We need the offense, lead by Josh Allen playing like Mahomes did last year, to take the league by storm, while our Defense is as solid as it was a year ago (meaning someone needs to fill Kyle William's shoes).

 

 

 

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Just now, ddaryl said:

Nothing needs to happen outside of Josh developing further as a QB... If Josh takes that step then we beat NE 

How do we BECOME FAVORITES going into the NE games this year? This is the question of this thread. I’m not asking if we are on the right course with our franchise, or if we have a chance vs NE this year, I believe both of those are a “yes”, but I surely wouldn’t bet on the Bills straight-up. So, would you bet on the Bills vs Pats this year, straight-up? 

If not, than we’re to the subject of this thread. What would you add (or subtract) from ONLY OUR ROSTER before the opener, to tip this in our favor?

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9 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said:

How do we BECOME FAVORITES going into the NE games this year? This is the question of this thread. I’m not asking if we are on the right course with our franchise, or if we have a chance vs NE this year, I believe both of those are a “yes”, but I surely wouldn’t bet on the Bills straight-up. So, would you bet on the Bills vs Pats this year, straight-up? 

If not, than we’re to the subject of this thread. What would you add (or subtract) from ONLY OUR ROSTER before the opener, to tip this in our favor?

 

Sorry, guess I didn't read it thoughroughly.  I hoenstly don't care about favorites or perception. I hope we are never favorites never on Hard Knocks and never appreciated by the rest of the country/league. I like being the underdog and I love it when the rest of this nation/league  gives us crap because their heads are so far up their asses they can only see their own colon anyways

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22 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said:

After listening to the Howard Picks the Bills segment on WGR this morning, and they (completely reasonably) refuse to pick the Bills over the Pats as long as Brady is there. So, this got me thinking. What has to happen TO OUR TEAM (so no NE plane crashes) through the draft, June 1st vet cuts/trades, etc, for the Bills to conceivably PASS the Pats this year, with TB12 still there on their team? 

 

I will I’ll take a shot at it.

 

In my eyes, using what I’ve seen as a possibility, though not probable, in doing about a dozen mock drafts over the last week on both The Draft Network and First-Pick.com, and taking advantage of guys I could see possibly falling, here are the moves that are not out of the relm of possibilities:

 

-Either Quinnen Williams falls to us at #9 and we ***** him up, OR we trade a 4th or 5th for Gerald McCoy. 

-If Quinnen doesn’t fall (I won’t even say Bosa because that’s impossible he falls that far), than we get either Josh Allen, Brian Burns, or Montez Sweat at #9

-someone between Fant, Metcalf, Hock, or Harry/Brown/Butler falls to our 2nd rounder, or we trade up and grab them in the 20's of the 1st round

-we pick up OT Bobby Evans-Oklahoma and one of G-Benzschawel- Wisconsin or G- Samia- Oklahoma, or possibly even Polite in that 4th round range.

-somehow, whether it’s from guys I’ve already said, or someone else later like a Sternberger, Moreau, Nauta, or Warring after the 1st 2 rounds, I think we need to get out of this draft with a productive TE prospect who can step in as the definitive #2 TE, and down the road have #1 upside

-Pick up a 3rd RB who could produce as a short-term starter if McCoy and Gore are either injured or ineffective, whether that’s a guy we find in the draft, a TJ Yeldon, or a vet who gets cut off of a team at some point.

 

***I know this sounds like a lot to fall perfectly just to beat the Pats, but that’s not what I’m getting at. I’m trying to picture a scenario where we are favorites going into a NE game THIS year, and this is what I would need to see to think that’s possible. I’m not saying the Bills CAN’T beat NE unless they do all of these things. This is just how we become favorites.***

 

 

We score more points than they do

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And no, I think it is impossible for us to go into NE as favorites by adding a bunch of rookies.

 

The only possible scenario is if our team somehow takes a humongous leap and is leading the AFC by the time we face the Pats for the 2nd time at the end of the season. Other than that, we won't be favorites.

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29 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said:

How do we BECOME FAVORITES going into the NE games this year? This is the question of this thread. I’m not asking if we are on the right course with our franchise, or if we have a chance vs NE this year, I believe both of those are a “yes”, but I surely wouldn’t bet on the Bills straight-up. So, would you bet on the Bills vs Pats this year, straight-up? 

If not, than we’re to the subject of this thread. What would you add (or subtract) from ONLY OUR ROSTER before the opener, to tip this in our favor?

Barring an injury to Brady or a complete collapse of the Patriots around him, the Bills cannot be a favorite going into either game against the Pats this year. There's just too much history of failure against them for anyone to expect the Bills to beat the Pats.

 

For instance, in their first meeting in 2019, even if the Bills come into the game 3-0 and the Pats are, say, 1-2, the Bills will not be favored. 

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Better find a way to stop the run, they ran at will the last game. Even their wide receivers were jet sweeping us to death. Need Milano back, improved play from Edmunds and defensive tackles who can get off of blocks. Oliver, Q Williams or the Clemson DT become instantly more appealing after watching that All 22. Or learn to outscore them.      

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Josh Allen posts an historic level season , Brady’s age starts to show with a major injury and missed time. That’s about it. Heck, even Mahomes’ amazing year in 2018 wasn’t enough to cover up KCs defensive deficiencies in two contests vs NE. I’m afraid the realistic answer is it doesn’t happen until Brady is done. 

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10 minutes ago, Lofton80 said:

Better find a way to stop the run, they ran at will the last game. Even their wide receivers were jet sweeping us to death. Need Milano back, improved play from Edmunds and defensive tackles who can get off of blocks. Oliver, Q Williams or the Clemson DT become instantly more appealing after watching that All 22. Or learn to outscore them.      

Yes...right on. However, Our current personal is not up to the task.  We have no one that has proven to penetrate that offensive line on a consistent basis. We should be using New England as a standard on how we draft defensively. They neutralized Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl...washed him out.

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2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

Yes...right on. However, Our current personal is not up to the task.  We have no one that has proven to penetrate that offensive line on a consistent basis. We should be using New England as a standard on how we draft defensively. They neutralized Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl...washed him out.

What did NE score in the SB. 13 points? The Rams D was fine, their QB was exposed by CHI and PHL. Use the Rams or CHI as a standard on defensive drafting, not the Pats. Goff makes 3 decent throws and the Rams are champs. Heck, a healthy Gurley may have done it. 

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16 minutes ago, Lofton80 said:

Better find a way to stop the run, they ran at will the last game. Even their wide receivers were jet sweeping us to death. Need Milano back, improved play from Edmunds and defensive tackles who can get off of blocks. Oliver, Q Williams or the Clemson DT become instantly more appealing after watching that All 22. Or learn to outscore them.      

Yes...right on. However, Our current personal is not up to the task.  We have no one that has proved to penetrate that offensive line on a consistent basis. We should be using New England as a standard on how we draft defensively. They neutralized Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl...washed him out. I also agree with the Bears and Rams defenses. I would mirror both...I hope the Bills do.

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The other thing is-Brady is great and in fantastic condition but nobody has ever played NFL QB at a high level at 42 years old-there is no guarantee that he will be able to do it-because he has stretched out the longevity thing so far when he goes it will probably be very sudden.

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Just now, Fan in Chicago said:

Win the battles at the lines of scrimmage and not get out coached. 

Yes...but the Bills current DL consistently displays an inability to do this. They are simply not talented enough.

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Take Brady out ?

26 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Josh Allen posts an historic level season , Brady’s age starts to show with a major injury and missed time. That’s about it. Heck, even Mahomes’ amazing year in 2018 wasn’t enough to cover up KCs defensive deficiencies in two contests vs NE. I’m afraid the realistic answer is it doesn’t happen until Brady is done. 

KC doesn’t line up Offside they win- typical NE but they just dont make many mistakes 

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