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A couple of thoughts:

 

1) I don't know the level of coordination, but I'm guessing this is being done so as to ensure there are state-level charges in place when the boy leaves office.  As we all know (by now)  these charges are outside the scope of a Presidential pardon.  It makes me smile a little bit to think the Bills could be the reason Donald Trump finally gets his *%&# caught in a mousetrap.  Side note - I wouldn't be surprised if we see additional state-level charges from other venues like Virginia and Florida and the like.  All for the same purpose.

 

2) To echo a poster above, thank heavens Trump didn't buy the Bills.  It would have been all bunting, and flashbulbs, and confetti and hoopla out front...and in the back room, we'd have Allan Weisselberg mopping his brow as he tries to figure out how to make payroll and cover the note to Deutsche Bank this month.  Everything would have been leveraged to the hilt.  I read a number of the comments yesterday about the Raiders' cash flow situation - this would have made the Raiders look like Fort Knox.  Good luck trying to renew ANY contracts.  Thank heavens for Terry Pegula.

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3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Please stay on topic people ....  

 

 

This topic belongs in the political isle, not the football.

 

If Trump can’t play RT, then I don’t give two shyts.

 

Not “on the field” related, so who cares.

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14 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I’ve been opposed to politics for a long time. I generally try to avoid those conversations cause people are so passionate but for all the wrong reasons. 

Sadly unless there is some sort of serious revolt and restructure nothing will ever change. It’s a business just like anything else and in the end, money always wins. 

Bernie Sanders, no super pacs, been in and around politics decades.  The candidate was there but America is just blind in their loyalty to their party.  He stands up for every group in this country, maybe we will wake up and see what needs to be done and stop being so greedy.  Only way we have a chance to unify.  That being said, there are a lot of unintelligent people in this country due to our school system.  College is grossly expensive and has dug a massive financial hole for so many.  Greed wins again.

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34 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Such a fraud ... His cash offer was a loan from a bank!!!

 

That not fraudulent. It just means the deal isn’t contingent upon securing financing.  It means the buyer loses his deposit if the financing falls through.  Most buyers who make offers like this are pretty sure they can get the money together.

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Not when he lied about his net worth and is President now. Still don't know how that happened.  Can't get most jobs without experience, I guess President doesn't apply.  

 

How many Presidents can you name who held the office before? I can name only one.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

What a completely worthless thing to look into. This is why “I LEAVE NY”

Yes, potential bank fraud is very worthless to investigate

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46 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Right? I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on a wall. 

But , but , but walls don’t work you can just climb over , or , or or dig under !

 

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10 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Leave the political crap out of it? Why exactly should we be discussing a loan on a Buffalo Bills forum. We should be discussing the Buffalo Bills or the NFL in general. A failed bid has absolutely nothing to do with football. Should we also be discussing Jon Bon Jovi’s business matters too?

 

Thread should be closed. 

Why do we discuss anything from the past then? 

 

Do we just forget about it? 

 

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1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:

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Niet Niet Soviet da da America!!!!

33 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

That's the entire problem and it absolutely matters.  Politics need to change and stop being run by large corporations that are smashing small businesses and our climate into the ground.  

Politics need to change, no large corporations swaying votes and no inexperience bs presidents who are profiteering their own businesses while in office lol.  

Oh God here we go !!!! 

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1 minute ago, snafu said:

 

That not fraudulent. It just means the deal isn’t contingent upon securing financing.  It means the buyer loses his deposit if the financing falls through.  Most buyers who make offers like this are pretty sure they can get the money together.

 

 

 

 

How many Presidents can you name who held the office before? I can name only one.

 

 

The President is still a very important figure in his demeanor.  If you have a guy that pushes hate and lies, what do you think the American people are going to do? Too many uneducated people in this country that are played like puppets.  

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Bernie Sanders, no super pacs, been in and around politics decades.  The candidate was there but America is just blind in their loyalty to their party.  He stands up for every group in this country, maybe we will wake up and see what needs to be done and stop being so greedy.  Only way we have a chance to unify.  That being said, there are a lot of unintelligent people in this country due to our school system.  College is grossly expensive and has dug a massive financial hole for so many.  Greed wins again.

 

Yes!  Nobody but a 180-year-old communist can fix America! :lol:

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23 minutes ago, Whites Bay said:

A couple of thoughts:

 

1) I don't know the level of coordination, but I'm guessing this is being done so as to ensure there are state-level charges in place when the boy leaves office.  As we all know (by now)  these charges are outside the scope of a Presidential pardon.  It makes me smile a little bit to think the Bills could be the reason Donald Trump finally gets his *%&# caught in a mousetrap.  Side note - I wouldn't be surprised if we see additional state-level charges from other venues like Virginia and Florida and the like.  All for the same purpose.

 

2) To echo a poster above, thank heavens Trump didn't buy the Bills.  It would have been all bunting, and flashbulbs, and confetti and hoopla out front...and in the back room, we'd have Allan Weisselberg mopping his brow as he tries to figure out how to make payroll and cover the note to Deutsche Bank this month.  Everything would have been leveraged to the hilt.  I read a number of the comments yesterday about the Raiders' cash flow situation - this would have made the Raiders look like Fort Knox.  Good luck trying to renew ANY contracts.  Thank heavens for Terry Pegula.

 

It would have been the end of the Bills in Buffalo.  Not even exaggerating.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Have a good day sir.

 

Thanks.  You too

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

Personally I feel politics has no place for the forums.. everyone has opinions and the right them on this subject WITHOUT getting bashed over it. Can this be moved please?

 

Oh, for now it's just harmless fun.

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Trump is an embarrassment to a position that should hold a very high standard. Unfortunately many short sighted people seem to resonate with the bigotry and hatred that he spreads and even support a wall (which will do nothing as most of the gang members/drug smugglers already use underground tunnels) The climate needs to be addressed, the people need to be taken care of but this schmuck only wants to sow discontent and chaos because he enjoys it.

 

It's a darn good thing he didn't buy the bills, can you imagine? You think players don't want to come here now.... 

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2 minutes ago, Jdragon2 said:

Trump is an embarrassment to a position that should hold a very high standard. Unfortunately many short sighted people seem to resonate with the bigotry and hatred that he spreads and even support a wall (which will do nothing as most of the gang members/drug smugglers already use underground tunnels) The climate needs to be addressed, the people need to be taken care of but this schmuck only wants to sow discontent and chaos because he enjoys it.

 

It's a darn good thing he didn't buy the bills, can you imagine? You think players don't want to come here now.... 

 

I nominate you to fix the climate. 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Not when he lied about his net worth and is President now. Still don't know how that happened.  Can't get most jobs without experience, I guess President doesn't apply.  

 

Just curious, when has there ever been a President who was elected to their first term that had previous experience being the President?  Hum....?

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

The President is still a very important figure in his demeanor.  If you have a guy that pushes hate and lies, what do you think the American people are going to do? Too many uneducated people in this country that are played like puppets.  

 

This isn’t the right board for answering your question. However, I agree with each of your other statements, and I will add that you can make those statements and ask that question about every President. Some are loud and brash, and some deliver their message in much more subtle ways.

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New York is a disgusting, un-American State. Insane taxes. Toll roads everywhere. An unconstitutional disregard for the 2nd amendment. Ever increasing budgets. It’s an awful state and every New Yorker need only look in the mirror to figure out why. This is just another BS witch hunt by socialists. 

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24 minutes ago, Whites Bay said:

A couple of thoughts:

 

1) I don't know the level of coordination, but I'm guessing this is being done so as to ensure there are state-level charges in place when the boy leaves office.  As we all know (by now)  these charges are outside the scope of a Presidential pardon.  It makes me smile a little bit to think the Bills could be the reason Donald Trump finally gets his *%&# caught in a mousetrap.  Side note - I wouldn't be surprised if we see additional state-level charges from other venues like Virginia and Florida and the like.  All for the same purpose.

 

2) To echo a poster above, thank heavens Trump didn't buy the Bills.  It would have been all bunting, and flashbulbs, and confetti and hoopla out front...and in the back room, we'd have Allan Weisselberg mopping his brow as he tries to figure out how to make payroll and cover the note to Deutsche Bank this month.  Everything would have been leveraged to the hilt.  I read a number of the comments yesterday about the Raiders' cash flow situation - this would have made the Raiders look like Fort Knox.  Good luck trying to renew ANY contracts.  Thank heavens for Terry Pegula.

I don't know about your football knowledge but there are no bunts allowed in the NFL.

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2 minutes ago, Jdragon2 said:

Trump is an embarrassment to a position that should hold a very high standard. Unfortunately many short sighted people seem to resonate with the bigotry and hatred that he spreads and even support a wall (which will do nothing as most of the gang members/drug smugglers already use underground tunnels) The climate needs to be addressed, the people need to be taken care of but this schmuck only wants to sow discontent and chaos because he enjoys it.

 

It's a darn good thing he didn't buy the bills, can you imagine? You think players don't want to come here now.... 

Or maybe his whole plan was to turn everything upside down and show the deep state not only exists, but has controlled American politics for way too long? 

Embarrassment could be stated for Benghazi, Nafta, Obama care, Clinton foundation, Iran deal, negotiating with Terrorists to swap for kidnapped American citizens, etc, etc. You can't burn it all down, but you can slowly drain it. Im not a Trump puppet, but this just seems like politics as usual. Difference being is Trump isn't part of the clique, so everyone hates him and are so bitter to the fact that he won, they will never stop spending tax payer money to try and oust him. 

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54 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

Yes.

 

Why?

2 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

New York is a disgusting, un-American State. Insane taxes. Toll roads everywhere. An unconstitutional disregard for the 2nd amendment. Ever increasing budgets. It’s an awful state and every New Yorker need only look in the mirror to figure out why. This is just another BS witch hunt by socialists. 

 

That's weird, I totally thought I was in America when I woke up this morning. 

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5 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

New York is a disgusting, un-American State. Insane taxes. Toll roads everywhere. An unconstitutional disregard for the 2nd amendment. Ever increasing budgets. It’s an awful state and every New Yorker need only look in the mirror to figure out why. This is just another BS witch hunt by socialists. 

Bark bark bark bark ba--oh sorry you just got me riled up by packing all the dog whistles into your Fox News headline word stew. ?

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8 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

New York is a disgusting, un-American State. Insane taxes. Toll roads everywhere. An unconstitutional disregard for the 2nd amendment. Ever increasing budgets. It’s an awful state and every New Yorker need only look in the mirror to figure out why. This is just another BS witch hunt by socialists. 

 

Have you traveled outside of New York? 

 

There are Toll roads everywhere you go.  Try driving around DC and Baltimore. 

 

There is a toll road that charges $6 for 15 miles, then the same road continues on with a new set of tolls at Dulles Airport leading into DC. 

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Corporations and, in turn, political parties running the country for the gain of small minority.  Anyone thinking this is democracy has simply fallen victim to the political machine's propaganda.  It's an oligarchy, no doubt about it.  Get the money out of politics and we may just have a chance yet. 

 

I've posted this before, but it deserves to be posted over and over and over again.  An excerpt from George Washington's farewell address warning against political parties and their true nature.  Reads pretty accurate to me:

 

"All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

 

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

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11 minutes ago, Mark80 said:

 

Just curious, when has there ever been a President who was elected to their first term that had previous experience being the President?  Hum....?

 

Just one (second term - but it’s all we got).  Here are hints and clues for you.

 

https://goo.gl/images/o2br5c

https://goo.gl/images/383koe

 

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34 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

This topic belongs in the political isle, not the football.

 

If Trump can’t play RT, then I don’t give two shyts.

 

Not “on the field” related, so who cares.

To be fair, it is possible he could have filled in some on this line last year and performed better than some players on our roster,  now that you bring that up!

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16 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

I nominate you to fix the climate. 

 

 

I'm counting down the time and biting my tongue anticipating this thread being relegated to a place where some of these comments can be responded to in a way they deserve. I came here to TSW to read and discuss football but got kiddie table level political gibberish.

 

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51 minutes ago, nucci said:

would you prefer $8B of your hard earned tax money for a wall instead?

 

Honestly, this hardcore opposition of a wall is just silly.

If folks could just take away their feelings about the president, I don't understand how it's just a common sense move.

 

 

1.  Lots of people are clearly coming into our country illegally.  And many of them are coming through the southern border.

 

2.  Even if you don't want to call it a "crisis" (which admittedly is overblown) - it's still obviously a problem that has a harmful impact on many U.S. citizens and the economy.

 

3.  The first step towards keeping people out of a somewhere they shouldn't be... is erecting a wall, fence or structure to impede them.

 

 

Will it 100% fix the problem?  Of course not.  But it certainly will help.

Some people will find a way over/under the wall anyway.  But the idea that every illegal is going to just scale a 20-25 foot structure with a grappling hook is ridiculous.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Why?

 

It has already been clearly established that there is only one reason why I could possibly support a border wall.... because I’m a terrible human being.

 

Seriously, I wish people were allowed to have a real conversation about this subject, but I’m afraid it’s not really possible anymore.

 

It’s sad.    

 

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