CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Come on, man. At least TRY to see what is being built here. Why did JA do more damage with his feet? Because we had receivers that couldn't get open and an OLine that couldn't block. These problems are being addressed in the draft and FA. He was a rookie who didn't start the season and was injured through several weeks. Does he have so accuracy issues? Yes, but those should be easily fixable. He has a cannon for an arm and is not afraid to use it; a WR should WANT to come here now. So you're going to list Boldin (who quit pre-season) when you're telling others to keep their head in the sand? How is Boldin's activism career going? Screw AB. I hope he goes to the Redskins where careers die. they built a bunch of cap space and a losing record over the past two years. with one of the worst offenses in history. Doug Marrone - 15-17 Rex Ryan - 15-17 Sean McDermott - 15-17 Why is there so much belief in these two that they are any different? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, JustWinPlease said: Other free agents just saw this and will probably wonder why THEY should go to Buffalo, if Antonio Brown would rather retire than play for the Bills. Beane should've been on the Pegula's jet, with Terry and Kim, McDermott, McCoy, Allen, Andre Reed, and whomever else they could get to sell him on coming to Buffalo...hell, they could've even reached out to Terrell Owens and brought him along. Now we go from Antonio Brown to John Brown. Lol. Nope. Look, players have preferences for where they want to go, but different players have different priorities. Believe me, when players visit One Bills Drive as a FA, they don't leave thinking "oh man, I don't want to play there". And agents have no problem communicating that to their players. That's one of the nice things about the Pegulas--they've made the facilities a major attraction. I still think that they should upgrade that abomination of a visitor's locker room so that they don't have that hurdle to clear though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 That's too bad I was really looking forward to AB as a Buffalo Bill but in the end it could of been more harm than good for Josh Allen. At least we know Buffalo indeed believes in a #1 WR so that draft and FA just got that much more interesting for me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Come on, man. At least TRY to see what is being built here. Why did JA do more damage with his feet? Because we had receivers that couldn't get open and an OLine that couldn't block. These problems are being addressed in the draft and FA. He was a rookie who didn't start the season and was injured through several weeks. Does he have so accuracy issues? Yes, but those should be easily fixable. He has a cannon for an arm and is not afraid to use it; a WR should WANT to come here now. So you're going to list Boldin (who quit pre-season) when you're telling others to keep their head in the sand? How is Boldin's activism career going? Screw AB. I hope he goes to the Redskins where careers die. I have heard and TRY to have seen what is being built for DECADES. And I have read those same excuses for years. JA damage feet? WRs couldn't get open TT damaged on feet? WR cant get open. OL couldn't block yeah that has been being talked about nor for 20 years I have listed more than BOLDIN. Sammy wanted Out Hogan Goodwin Woods Boldin Brown I could go on there is a lot of WRs that wont come here and want to get out to have better careers once they are GONE. THAT is the REALITY. THAT is what Buffalo's impression on other WRs in the league. And to say well come here we have a QB that can run, has a cannon and is accurate sometimes is going to change that impression, umm sorry it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 It would save a lot of time if they ask Brown where he would play and for how much. Still good practice run for Beane before free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Yes, I realize that, but the Pats' entire model for winning last year was run-first. That's all. I'm just not sure that was necessarily by design. Edelman suspended for 4 games, Gordon addition, Gronk injuries - total lack of discernable talent at WR forced them into running more. And Brady still threw for 4400 and 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: That's too bad I was really looking forward to AB as a Buffalo Bill but in the end it could of been more harm than good for Josh Allen. At least we know Buffalo indeed believes in a #1 WR so that draft and FA just got that much more interesting for me at least. If AB can ruin JA then JA needs to be release now, because he doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: You mean one of the best WRs in the game wants to make as much money as he can in a short amount of time. Seems unreasonable......... It is unreasonable because reason will tell you NFL Wide Receivers can only make so much money. If he wanted to make more money he should have went to school for something that pays more than $70 Million dollars in the first nine years of a career. You know many of those jobs available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, JohnC said: The below link is a WGR interview with Andrew Fillipponit from Pittsburgh. The best thing that happened to the Bills is that the deal for AB was nixed by AB and his representation. When all is said and done from AB's perspective it is about the money. One of the main points in this interview is that the conflict in Pittsburgh was to a great extent manufactured by AB to seek an avenue that would get him a new and bigger contract. This is an 8 min. interview. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-08-andrew-fillipponi-937-fan-pittsburgh-howard-and-jeremy Cliff notes: This is mostly opinion and conjecture (not all though), but some of the highlights: • Strong "buyer beware". • Never caught a TD pass with another QB (other than Big Ben). • He buries his QB on the field repeatedly (going back years now). • This would be Randy Moss in Oakland all over again. • The GM who trades for him should be fired on the spot. • Choreographed by agent + player to get him out of his situation...(to get him to free agency). • He (AB) did blow up this trade (from what Flillipponi heard). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Everyone, can we please let the AB thing go!! We want players that want to be here, period!! If AB didn't want to play in Buffalo, fine. I say go take your circus somewhere else. We're trying to build a winning football team here, not a brand!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I like what Sal says here- Quote The Bills are going big-game hunting. Their first shot didn’t connect. Let’s see how they re-load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: If AB can ruin JA then JA needs to be release now, because he doesn't have it. Which, given the tenor of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS, would thrill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: Now we go from Antonio Brown to John Brown. Lol. And John Brown turned us down to go to Baltimore already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, JustWinPlease said: Other free agents just saw this and will probably wonder why THEY should go to Buffalo, if Antonio Brown would rather retire than play for the Bills. Beane should've been on the Pegula's jet, with Terry and Kim, McDermott, McCoy, Allen, Andre Reed, and whomever else they could get to sell him on coming to Buffalo...hell, they could've even reached out to Terrell Owens and brought him along. Now we go from Antonio Brown to John Brown. Lol. John Brown already said no last year. This changes nothing with how FAs view us. The view is the same as it's been for 2 decades. We are at the bottom of most every single FAs list unless we pay to be at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, the skycap said: Everyone, can we please let the AB thing go!! We want players that want to be here, period!! If AB didn't want to play in Buffalo, fine. I say go take your circus somewhere else. We're trying to build a winning football team here, not a brand!! You build a winning football team by getting good and great players...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Cliff notes: This is mostly opinion and conjecture (not all though), but some of the highlights: • Strong "buyer beware". • Never caught a TD pass with another QB (other than Big Ben). • He buries his QB on the field repeatedly (going back years now). • This would be Randy Moss in Oakland all over again. • The GM who trades for him should be fired on the spot. • Choreographed by agent + player to get him out of his situation...(to get him to free agency). • He (AB) did blow up this trade (from what Flillipponi heard). Your cliff notes are laser sharp. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I have heard and TRY to have seen what is being built for DECADES. And I have read those same excuses for years. JA damage feet? WRs couldn't get open TT damaged on feet? WR cant get open. OL couldn't block yeah that has been being talked about nor for 20 years I have listed more than BOLDIN. Sammy wanted Out Hogan Goodwin Woods Boldin Brown I could go on there is a lot of WRs that wont come here and want to get out to have better careers once they are GONE. THAT is the REALITY. THAT is what Buffalo's impression on other WRs in the league. And to say well come here we have a QB that can run, has a cannon and is accurate sometimes is going to change that impression, umm sorry it doesn't. How about "we have a QB that managed to eek 22 receptions, 400 yards, and 3 TDs from an UDFA over the final 6 games of the season; imagine what he could do with you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I have heard and TRY to have seen what is being built for DECADES. And I have read those same excuses for years. JA damage feet? WRs couldn't get open TT damaged on feet? WR cant get open. OL couldn't block yeah that has been being talked about nor for 20 years I have listed more than BOLDIN. Sammy wanted Out Hogan Goodwin Woods Boldin Brown I could go on there is a lot of WRs that wont come here and want to get out to have better careers once they are GONE. THAT is the REALITY. THAT is what Buffalo's impression on other WRs in the league. And to say well come here we have a QB that can run, has a cannon and is accurate sometimes is going to change that impression, umm sorry it doesn't. You seem to be implying that Sammy, Hogan, Goodwin and Woods wanted out or didnt want to play here. Where are you getting that from ? They were not retained (and you can blame the FO for that, as I do) but to say that their departure was due to their own unwillngness to play for Buffalo, that is plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Which, given the tenor of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS, would thrill you. you know me, I want the bills to fail. i love being a fan of a team that continuously fails and makes he same mistakes over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I have heard and TRY to have seen what is being built for DECADES. And I have read those same excuses for years. JA damage feet? WRs couldn't get open TT damaged on feet? WR cant get open. OL couldn't block yeah that has been being talked about nor for 20 years I have listed more than BOLDIN. Sammy wanted Out Hogan Goodwin Woods Boldin Brown I could go on there is a lot of WRs that wont come here and want to get out to have better careers once they are GONE. THAT is the REALITY. THAT is what Buffalo's impression on other WRs in the league. And to say well come here we have a QB that can run, has a cannon and is accurate sometimes is going to change that impression, umm sorry it doesn't. Maybe you should be a Patriots fan. There might still be some room left on the bandwagon. A few might have fallen off in disgust over the Robert Kraft fiasco. Look, this is the first coaching staff in a long time that actually has a plan and is following it. I'm not a Process cultist, but I see what they are trying to do and am giving them this off season and upcoming season to prove it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: I like what Sal says here- As well they should be...they have picks, cap room, and a young QB. Go get a bona fide WR1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: yes it does look different. Considering his history, I am happy it didnt go through. I wasnt disagreeing with you, btw I didn't take as a disagreement. Just pointing it out where there was a distinction. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: you know me, I want the bills to fail. i love being a fan of a team that continuously fails and makes he same mistakes over and over again. I believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: How about "we have a QB that managed to eek 22 receptions, 400 yards, and 3 TDs from an UDFA over the final 6 games of the season; imagine what he could do with you" If you think 3 receptions 66 yards and 0.5 TDs a game is something that a top end WR would be OOO yeah sign me up for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Maybe you should be a Patriots fan. There might still be some room left on the bandwagon. A few might have fallen off in disgust over the Robert Kraft fiasco. Look, this is the first coaching staff in a long time that actually has a plan and is following it. I'm not a Process cultist, but I see what they are trying to do and am giving them this off season and upcoming season to prove it. Through two years they have the same exact record as Marrone and Ryan. I don't understand the blind faith in these guys. especially after the coach says culture is the most important thing and it trumps everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, dneveu said: I'm just not sure that was necessarily by design. Edelman suspended for 4 games, Gordon addition, Gronk injuries - total lack of discernable talent at WR forced them into running more. And Brady still threw for 4400 and 30. To me, it certainly looked to be by design. I mean, take a look at their offseason prior to 2018: - Let Amendola walk in FA - Trade Brandin Cooks - Let Nate Solder (a pass-blocking OT) walk in FA - Sign Jeremy Hill in FA - Trade for Trent Brown (a run-blocking OT) - Draft an OT with their top pick - Draft a RB with their other first-rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: You mean one of the best WRs in the game wants to make as much money as he can in a short amount of time. Seems unreasonable......... What is unreasonable and disgusting is the way he tried to create a chaotic situation to the detriment of the team so he could force the issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This was a blessing in disguise. The last thing this organization needs is a prima donna diva wide receiver who thinks he's better than the city of Buffalo. Go out and draft a good young hungry wr who can develop chemistry with Josh. Let someone else deal with Lord Big Chest.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, iinii said: It never ceases to amaze me how people get so worked up about the poor owners. ....or poor football players. Oh, how horrible the insults issued to Leveon Bell! How long is your guaranteed contract at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Maybe you should be a Patriots fan. There might still be some room left on the bandwagon. A few might have fallen off in disgust over the Robert Kraft fiasco. Look, this is the first coaching staff in a long time that actually has a plan and is following it. I'm not a Process cultist, but I see what they are trying to do and am giving them this off season and upcoming season to prove it. Ahhh once again when you are critical of this team people tell you to go elsewhere. Am I wrong in my history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, ALF said: It would save a lot of time if they ask Brown where he would play and for how much. Still good practice run for Beane before free agency. $hittsburgh did not give AB or his agent permission to talk to other teams - so your first point was an impossibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: If you think 3 receptions 66 yards and 0.5 TDs a game is something that a top end WR would be OOO yeah sign me up for that I can't decide if you're obfuscating, or if you really need help seeing the point here, but I'll assume it's the latter: The point is quite clear: if a rookie with a horrendous OL can manage to get 22 catches/400 yards/3 TDs out of an undrafted rookie in 1/3 of a season, what could he get from a bona fide WR1 in a full season? Can't spell it out much clearer than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: they built a bunch of cap space and a losing record over the past two years. with one of the worst offenses in history. Doug Marrone - 15-17 Rex Ryan - 15-17 Sean McDermott - 15-17 Why is there so much belief in these two that they are any different? Because McD has a plan and direction he's trying to go in. The other two were abysmally clueless. You can't see that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: You seem to be implying that Sammy, Hogan, Goodwin and Woods wanted out or didnt want to play here. Where are you getting that from ? They were not retained (and you can blame the FO for that, as I do) but to say that their departure was due to their own unwillngness to play for Buffalo, that is plain wrong. Prove to me I am wrong. They left. They careers got better (well I guess with exception of Sammy). So it does not invalidate my point that this offense is HISTORICALLY inept at using WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Because McD has a plan and direction he's trying to go in. The other two were abysmally clueless. You can't see that? Let me answer that one for you: no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnC said: What is unreasonable and disgusting is the way he tried to create a chaotic situation to the detriment of the team so he could force the issue. Which is exactly why I am glad he is not on our team. Diva WRs are one thing and I do want a WR who wants the football, but what he did in Pittsburgh against his teammates shows you all you need to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Ahhh once again when you are critical of this team people tell you to go elsewhere. Am I wrong in my history? Your history is well known around these parts. The least we can expect is for us fans to be positive about the future and give this regime one more off season to fix the O. If we are having this conversation one year from now, by all means advocate firing McBeane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: You build a winning football team by getting good and great players...... There might be a good/great player in the draft. Nobody knew what Mahomes was to become. Many teams passed on Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, etc. I, personally, say thanks to AB for saying no to Buffalo. #trusttheprocess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Prove to me I am wrong. They left. They careers got better (well I guess with exception of Sammy). So it does not invalidate my point that this offense is HISTORICALLY inept at using WRs This offense has only been around one year, completely different coaching staff before then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Prove to me I am wrong. They left. They careers got better (well I guess with exception of Sammy). So it does not invalidate my point that this offense is HISTORICALLY inept at using WRs Nope. You implied that they did not want to be here and wanted out. The burden of proof is on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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