Dopey Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Jonah can play guard or tackle where Jawaan is seen as strictly a tackle. We already have our left tackle in Dion. So do you take the more versatile player? Jonah could play RT, LT or move to the guard position. We could have the left side of our line fixed with Jonah at LG with Dion at LT, with a FA Center. Jawaan is the higher rated tackle, we could take him and move Dion to LG. Personally, I would take Jonah and have a lot more versatility in case of injury. Thoughts please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dopey said: Jonah can play guard or tackle where Jawaan is seen as strictly a tackle. We already have our left tackle in Dion. So do you take the more versatile player? Jonah could play RT, LT or move to the guard position. We could have the left side of our line fixed with Jonah at LG with Dion at LT, with a FA Center. Jawaan is the higher rated tackle, we could take him and move Dion to LG. Personally, I would take Jonah and have a lot more versatility in case of injury. Thoughts please? I've seen projections that say Taylor can play guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Give me Jonah Williams and sign Daryl Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 There are those who think Jonah Williams will struggle at the pro level playing tackle because of his moderately short arms. He didn't test awful at the combine, but he didn't stand out either. His strongest positive is that he's technically proficient, but he appears not to be a great athlete. My expectation is that he will be decent as a pro, in either the tackle or guard spot, but he'll never wow you with his play. I think Jawaan Taylor has more athletic tools, and I wouldn't discount his ability to move inside and play guard. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Jonah all day erry day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 DK Metcalf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Instead of pretending I’m qualified to make the call, I’ll just pray the FO gets it right! Having said that, I doubt it’s either at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Andre Dillard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Andre Dillard. At #9? Maybe this all goes to prove we can move back and still get a good OT? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 What about the story that Jonah refused to switch positions in college and only sees himself as a left tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 If I only had a choice between the two, it would be Taylor. He’s a much more fluid athlete. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Give me Jonah Williams and sign Daryl Williams would you put Jonah at G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Dopey said: would you put Jonah at G? After taking him at #9? Is he Quinten Nelson? Or, MAYBE, is a DL option the better choice? Who wouldn’t love TWO Josh Allens on the team? (I know that’s like winning the lottery, but it would be great fun!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: At #9? Maybe this all goes to prove we can move back and still get a good OT? Maybe. But it would be a risk to move back. If you need a LT, think he's the best one in the draft and he's there, you take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: After taking him at #9? Is he Quinten Nelson? Or, MAYBE, is a DL option the better choice? Definitely not Nelson, but the versatility intrigues me a lot. If Dion goes down, Jonah can move outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Christian Wilkins? Ed Oliver? If I had to pick one of those 2 OTs it would be Taylor. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Maybe. But it would be a risk to move back. If you need a LT, think he's the best one in the draft and he's there, you take him. I don’t pretend to know. Dawkins may be fine if surrounded by competent players. I’m glad we pay people for this stuff, because most of us would be fired pretty quickly. At least they get a few years! 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: Christian Wilkins? Ed Oliver? If I had to pick one of those 2 OTs it would be Taylor. I’d go Oliver if available, which means he will flame out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said: What about the story that Jonah refused to switch positions in college and only sees himself as a left tackle? They don't pay nearly as much in college. I think he'll switch for top 10 money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Taylor & it's not close. Taylor is a very good RT from Day 1, with the feet & ability to eventually play LT. Jonah Williams is a Guard at the NFL level, I don't think there's any way he could play LT in the NFL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I am hoping for 2 OL in FA and a DL at 9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I am hoping for 2 OL in FA and a DL at 9. That, of course changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) This needs to be the year of the O-Line at One Bills Drive. If they can grab two solid O-Linemen in free agency (Paradis/ Williams/Williams/Zeitler/Morse) then I think you have the luxury of looking at EDGE or DT or WR at 9, otherwise they need to grab the best O-Lineman on the board at 9. No point in spending all that capital to get your franchise QB if he is running for his life every other snap. The O-Line isn't sexy but it is the heart of the offense. Can't run the ball, can't pass the ball without a decent O-Line. If Allen is going to continue to develop, he needs an O-Line. Edited March 8, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I am hoping for 2 OL in FA and a DL at 9. And a couple later round OL’s. Notice where the “desired” guys come from? Paradis was a 6th rounder. Not unusual. Take an educated flier and coach them up. . Edited March 8, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Jawaan Taylor all day. Watching Jonah get absolutely owned in the natl championship game was brutal. He’s a guard in the NFL. He’s too small, not athletic enough, and his arms are too short. Hopefully we aren’t in a position where we have to take an OT at 9. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: And a couple later rounds OL’s. Notice where the “desired” guys come from? Paradis was a 6th rounder. Take an educated flier and coach them up. Fair point Augie. You might hit on a late round pick. I would rather have them spend their money in free agency to shore up the O- line and if that's not successful for whatever reason, invest heavily in the O-Line in the draft. I suspect that a 5th rounder might require more coaching up than a 1st rounder. Drafting your franchise quarterback and then not investing in the linemen to protect him seems like a good way to be back in the franchise quarterback market in 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 D.K. ? But if he's gone Taylor for sure...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said: Fair point Augie. You might hit on a late round pick. I would rather have them spend their money in free agency to shore up the O- line and if that's not successful for whatever reason, invest heavily in the O-Line in the draft. I suspect that a 5th rounder might require more coaching up than a 1st rounder. Drafting your franchise quarterback and then not investing in the linemen to protect him seems like a good way to be back in the franchise quarterback market in 2-3 years. I am ALL FOR investing in OL and DL. ALL FOR! Win the game on the LOS. I just don’t want to reach in the draft. I’d rather overpay in FA for a few years than pass on elite DL talent to draft average OL talent. Allen and the run game NEED a line. Don’t get average at #9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Augie said: I am ALL FOR investing in OL and DL. ALL FOR! Win the game on the LOS. I just don’t want to reach in the draft. I’d rather overpay in FA for a few years than pass on elite DL talent to draft average OL talent. Allen and the run game NEED a line. Don’t get average at #9. I think you are getting a pretty good player with Taylor, and I think Williams could be a very good interior linemen. I wouldn't take either at 9. If you pick them, you are passing on elite defensive talent, and I think filling holes and settling is the worst way to draft. I would never draft a non elite offensive linemen in the top ten of a draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think you are getting a pretty good player with Taylor, and I think Williams could be a very good interior linemen. I wouldn't take either at 9. If you pick them, you are passing on elite defensive talent, and I think filling holes and settling is the worst way to draft. I would never draft a non elite offensive linemen in the top ten of a draft. I should have said good to very good as opposed to average, but I think the point was clear (if not exact). I can’t wait for this stuff to actually happen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Augie said: And a couple later round OL’s. Notice where the “desired” guys come from? Paradis was a 6th rounder. Not unusual. Take an educated flier and coach them up. . You are 100% right here. David Bahktiari, 4th round, Shaq Mason 4th, Jason Kelce 6th, Marshal Yanda 3rd, Alejandro Villanueva UDFA...There are a few top linemen picked in the top ten, but some of the best come from all over the place. We we are all salivating over Paradis 6th, Morse 2nd, Spain UDFA, Saffold 2nd. Gotta draft better and find the right people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: At #9? Maybe this all goes to prove we can move back and still get a good OT? There are some who think he might not be that much of a reach at #9. Personally, I don't think the Bills are going to end up drafting an offensive lineman at #9. This thread and the uncertainty it illustrates is a a big reason why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 FWIW, Jordan Jones, the Sam LB for Kentucky was asked in the SEC, which is the toughest Tackle he opposed, and he said Juwain Taylor, not Jonah Williams. Either one is a big upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The correct answer is Ed Oliver. 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think you are getting a pretty good player with Taylor, and I think Williams could be a very good interior linemen. I wouldn't take either at 9. If you pick them, you are passing on elite defensive talent, and I think filling holes and settling is the worst way to draft. I would never draft a non elite offensive linemen in the top ten of a draft. I think as NFL players Jonah Williams projects as a very good LG (maybe even a C) and Jawaan Taylor projects as a very good RT but a RT only. Neither of those are "wasted" picks, but they are also almost definitely not the best players on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I’d be fine with either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Dopey said: would you put Jonah at G? He’s an LT for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Concerned about Jonah after the NCAA championship game. He got manhandled by the Clemson front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Bill Murray said: DK Metcalf barf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Concerned about Jonah after the NCAA championship game. He got manhandled by the Clemson front. There was one play where he and Ferrell slipped and it looked like he got destroyed. He was great in that game v another Top 15 guy. Watch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Jawaan for me, and I think he beats out Dawk for the LT spot. Dawk should be a guard, as he was originally projected in college and showed this year with his inconsistency at tackle. I still say we are going defense in the first, Risner in the 2nd and then WR/RB/More Oline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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