SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Among his amassed wealth, Kraft must also collect art... * Picasso. ? Add song writing to that too... Lying on a masseuse table Eyeing Asian ladies with bad intent Snots running down his nose Stinky fingers smearing shabby clothes hey, Aqualung Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run, hey, Aqualung Feeling like a dead duck Spitting out pieces of his broken luck, oh, Aqualung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 First time I ever saw this thread. Was phony cash involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: And hours later he KISSED Tom Brady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To the bold. What proof do you have that the initial sting was fraudulent? Oh Never mind .... I have my answer as to why you think so. Bobby was digging for gold .... Yuck... If the initial sting had merit, there is no way law enforcement would have allowed the sting (where women and underaged girls would have been trafficked and forced into sexual slavery) to go on for months and months... Don't forget, he also kissed his 6th Lombardi trophy. I mean, you know how it is when your team wins the Super Bowl... Oops! Sorry! I guess you don't... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ricko1112 said: Yuck... If the initial sting had merit, there is no way law enforcement would have allowed the sting (where women and underaged girls would have been trafficked and forced into sexual slavery) to go on for months and months... Don't forget, he also kissed his 6th Lombardi trophy. I mean, you know how it is when your team wins the Super Bowl... Oops! Sorry! I guess you don't... Isn't that cute. How many were because the Pats Cheated and the Refs were blind or thought they saw Tom get hit? The bogus RTP PF on Brady Vs KC allowed that drive to continue and put the Putz in the lead to advance. Running Illegal plays versus the Ravens to advance. SpyGate. All evidence was destroyed. The Tuck. A BS rule out in place to cover for the first frackup to advance. So you get maybe 2 clean Victories and 4 tainted wins. Yeah, cheating, that's something to be proud of. Brown: Refs bad penalty calls broke the Titans back Mike Felger, Troy Brown, and Bert Breer discuss some of the penalties calls that went against the Titans and how it hurt their confidence and bursts their bubble. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/brown-refs-bad-penalty-calls-broke-titans-back From a Boston outlet https://www.boston.com/sports/nfl/2019/01/22/referees-nfl-patriots-rams-chiefs-saints Yes, the Patriots won in Kansas City thanks to four critical calls going New England’s way in the fourth quarter, three of which were iffy: a replay reversal of Julian Edelman’s muffed punt, a phantom roughing-the-passer call on Chris Jones and Chris Hogan’s drive-sustaining one-handed catch with a little help from the ground Edited May 2, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 When Tainted Tom retires .... I wonder how long after you will be a Patriots fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Isn't that cute. How many were because the Pats Cheated and the Refs were blind or thought they saw Tom get hit? The bogus RTP PF on Brady Vs KC allowed that drive to continue and put the Putz in the lead to advance. Running Illegal plays versus the Ravens to advance. SpyGate. All evidence was destroyed. The Tuck. A BS rule out in place to cover for the first frackup to advance. So you get maybe 2 clean Victories and 4 tainted wins. Yeah, cheating, that's something to be proud of. Brown: Refs bad penalty calls broke the Titans back Mike Felger, Troy Brown, and Bert Breer discuss some of the penalties calls that went against the Titans and how it hurt their confidence and bursts their bubble. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/brown-refs-bad-penalty-calls-broke-titans-back From a Boston outlet https://www.boston.com/sports/nfl/2019/01/22/referees-nfl-patriots-rams-chiefs-saints Yes, the Patriots won in Kansas City thanks to four critical calls going New England’s way in the fourth quarter, three of which were iffy: a replay reversal of Julian Edelman’s muffed punt, a phantom roughing-the-passer call on Chris Jones and Chris Hogan’s drive-sustaining one-handed catch with a little help from the ground Jeez, and not long ago a praised people on this site for being more savvy than Jets' fans... First, let's get the nonsense portion of your post out of the way. The Ravens play was NOT illegal. The only person unaware of what was happening was Harbaugh. Common play. It was made illegal the year after, but that didn't stop Harbaugh from trying to use it twice. Spygate was simply the location of the camera. It's not against the rules to tape your opponent, their signals, or their sidelines. Never has been. Glazer used to show the tapes at parties. Mostly pictures of pretty women in the stands. Tuck Rule, while a stupid rule, was called correctly. It was still a rule for years after that playoff game. It was also used AGAINST the the Patriots that same year when they played the Jets. Soooo... -------- Now, yes, the RTP was bogus when seen in slow motion. At real speed, from the ref's angle, he has to make the call. This is a clear example why BB has been lobbying to make EVERYTHING reviewable. But, since it's his idea it won't fly. He also wanted cameras in the end zone pylons, but it was shot down.The next year Harbaugh suggested it and guess what happened? There is a replay angle clearly showed the ball not hitting Edelman. Case closed. Don't forget that the year before, Hogan's catch would have been called incomplete. Do you know why it was complete this year? Because (against NE) Jesse James of the Steelers had the same thing happen to him. The rule was changed the year before because it benefitted NE and people were up in arms! The rule was changed for just that reason, but now it helps NE and the same people are pulling out their feathers again. As far as Felger, his nickname in NE is "Douchebag." He's one of those who hate any success the local teams have. He rants about everything and what a horrible coach and GM BB is. He does the same for the Sox, Celts, and Bruins. I'm sure you have the same type of idiots up there too. I was reading some people complaining about Fatso someone, I think. Rule changes because the old rule helped the Patriots: - illegal contact because of the Colts' Charmin soft receivers couldn't play physical. - we mentioned the motion because Harbaugh didn't know the rules. - jumping over the o-line to block FGs and PATs - Jesse James' catch that wasn't, but now is. You mentioned that one too. - now the NFL wants to monkey with the OT rules again because of the way NE beat the Falcons and Chiefs. If they had lost those games you know this would never have been entertained. I liked the old sudden death rule. I thought most Bills' fans were above falling for the "NE cheating" BS that B$PN spews. www.yourteamcheats.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Think that we now know why the tape is being suppressed.... This Bob Kraft story is the gift that just keeps on giving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, ricko1112 said: Jeez, and not long ago a praised people on this site for being more savvy than Jets' fans... First, let's get the nonsense portion of your post out of the way. The Ravens play was NOT illegal. The only person unaware of what was happening was Harbaugh. Common play. It was made illegal the year after, but that didn't stop Harbaugh from trying to use it twice. Spygate was simply the location of the camera. It's not against the rules to tape your opponent, their signals, or their sidelines. Never has been. Glazer used to show the tapes at parties. Mostly pictures of pretty women in the stands. Tuck Rule, while a stupid rule, was called correctly. It was still a rule for years after that playoff game. It was also used AGAINST the the Patriots that same year when they played the Jets. Soooo... -------- Now, yes, the RTP was bogus when seen in slow motion. At real speed, from the ref's angle, he has to make the call. This is a clear example why BB has been lobbying to make EVERYTHING reviewable. But, since it's his idea it won't fly. He also wanted cameras in the end zone pylons, but it was shot down.The next year Harbaugh suggested it and guess what happened? There is a replay angle clearly showed the ball not hitting Edelman. Case closed. Don't forget that the year before, Hogan's catch would have been called incomplete. Do you know why it was complete this year? Because (against NE) Jesse James of the Steelers had the same thing happen to him. The rule was changed the year before because it benefitted NE and people were up in arms! The rule was changed for just that reason, but now it helps NE and the same people are pulling out their feathers again. As far as Felger, his nickname in NE is "Douchebag." He's one of those who hate any success the local teams have. He rants about everything and what a horrible coach and GM BB is. He does the same for the Sox, Celts, and Bruins. I'm sure you have the same type of idiots up there too. I was reading some people complaining about Fatso someone, I think. Rule changes because the old rule helped the Patriots: - illegal contact because of the Colts' Charmin soft receivers couldn't play physical. - we mentioned the motion because Harbaugh didn't know the rules. - jumping over the o-line to block FGs and PATs - Jesse James' catch that wasn't, but now is. You mentioned that one too. - now the NFL wants to monkey with the OT rules again because of the way NE beat the Falcons and Chiefs. If they had lost those games you know this would never have been entertained. I liked the old sudden death rule. I thought most Bills' fans were above falling for the "NE cheating" BS that B$PN spews. www.yourteamcheats.com O please. You come to a Bills site and mock us and flaunt 6 rings and 4 Losses. I provided plenty of reasons why many of them are tainted. If you think that was being rude you are surely mistaken. If spyware was simply a camera then why was all the evidence destroyed and any information kept under lock and key? Cheating is cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: O please. You come to a Bills site and mock us and flaunt 6 rings and 4 Losses. I provided plenty of reasons why many of them are tainted. If you think that was being rude you are surely mistaken. If spyware was simply a camera then why was all the evidence destroyed and any information kept under lock and key? Cheating is cheating. That's not true at all. Someone was still peddling the "sex trafficking/sex slave" lie. I simply posted the truth. You're the one that started the other stuff. Not me. I'm not going to start anything on another team's site. In fact, I think overall that I've been pretty positive/neutral with most of my posts. I don't even comment on the over the top goofiness that the more immature posters spout. You guys do a good job calling them out. However, that first post was a blatant, slanderous lie. My response to you was more of a good natured ribbing than a mocking post. Besides, Brady won't be around more than 9 or 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Judge in Martin County has suppressed same type of video in sane tug job sting operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 This is your brain. Now this is a NE Pats fan's Brain.. Any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) On 4/19/2019 at 4:10 PM, Doc said: I don't think they have standing but realize that his lawyers will argue that they do. In any case, the video is being shopped around as we speak, so it's coming out whether anyone likes it or not, and that's the worst outcome for Bobby. If Kraft and his representation don't have standing then how is it that they are challenging the evidence that would be used in the case against him? What's even worse than a 77 year old widower having a finger probe into his lower aperture is that evidence under the control of the government is being shopped around (at least that is what you are saying). That is both unethical and illegal. That's where your outrage should be directed. This case is a farce. Once that it was discovered that human trafficking didn't occur the investigation should have been concluded. Edited May 2, 2019 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Bob "Smell My Finger" Kraft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 It’s mind boggling that this dude is getting budget handies in the first place. Now we find out he didn’t want to spring for the butt-diddle upgrade? Did he also use a coupon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, JohnC said: If Kraft and his representation don't have standing then how is it that they are challenging the evidence that would be used in the case against him? What's even worse than a 77 year old widower having a finger probe into his lower aperture is that evidence under the control of the government is being shopped around (at least that is what you are saying). That is both unethical and illegal. That's where your outrage should be directed. This case is a farce. Once that it was discovered that human trafficking didn't occur the investigation should have been concluded. How? You can challenge whatever you want. You can also make any excuse you want for illegal behavior, but what is it you always said about excuses, John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Pretty difficult to take any of this nonsense seriously-IMO it is possible younger people can't fathom how abitrary and transitory all this nonsense is-I remember when homosexuality was a very serious crime-now not only is it legal but it is promoted strongly by the culture even to young children. I remember when only real sickos watched porn-they went to XXX moviehouses-basically the only show in town. Now it is sold as mainstream entertainment. Giving hormones to young children to "change their sex" is just the latest thing they are promoting. So this billionaire goes to a rub and tug and we are supposed to pretend we are back in 1950 and the church is packed every Sunday? Come on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hey Bob Kraft The Florida police will not do as the NFL FO did for Spygate. your bung hole digging rub and tug video footage won’t be destroyed to protect the shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Hey Bob Kraft The Florida police will not do as the NFL FO did for Spygate. your bung hole digging rub and tug video footage won’t be destroyed to protect the shield. The video is already out there. Somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, Doc said: How? You can challenge whatever you want. You can also make any excuse you want for illegal behavior, but what is it you always said about excuses, John? There is plenty of low grade illegal behavior that isn't pursued by the authorities to the extent that this case is treated. But let's put that judgment aside for this discussion. Whether he violated a law or not doesn't mean that he can't vigorously contest the charges and method in which this case was pursued. The bigger transgression in my view is how this case was/is handled. The more troubling issue isn't so much of a two bit statue violation as it is how the public authorities behaved. What's going on here is that the police and prosecuting authority is trying to coerce him into submission by threatening to release the tape/s and humiliating him. That in my view is wrong. There is no doubt that Kraft and his robust legal team is going to aggressively pursue this matter. In the end odds are that they will win. (My opinion.) You may be morally outraged by a 77 yr old widower having his orifice probed by a feminine finger but I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: This is your brain. Now this is a NE Pats fan's Brain.. Any questions? Did NE P*ts fans not get brains because they were in line to remove ethics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, JohnC said: There is plenty of low grade illegal behavior that isn't pursued by the authorities to the extent that this case is treated. But let's put that judgment aside for this discussion. Whether he violated a law or not doesn't mean that he can't vigorously contest the charges and method in which this case was pursued. The bigger transgression in my view is how this case was/is handled. The more troubling issue isn't so much of a two bit statue violation as it is how the public authorities behaved. What's going on here is that the police and prosecuting authority is trying to coerce him into submission by threatening to release the tape/s and humiliating him. That in my view is wrong. There is no doubt that Kraft and his robust legal team is going to aggressively pursue this matter. In the end odds are that they will win. (My opinion.) You may be morally outraged by a 77 yr old widower having his orifice probed by a feminine finger but I am not. It's not a matter of my moral outrage: I think prostitution should be legal. It's the hypocrisy of being an owner in a league that punishes guys caught with weed, a similarly harmless offense, for which they have to face legal repercussions, and even if they don't, still have to face league repercussions. In this case, I'm fine with the video coming out and him skating on charges, meager as they'd be. But let's be real: the manner in which they got him had no bearing on him breaking the law. That's on him and him alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Seems like a tough thing to prove. As for the sex trafficking element the 2 women where in their 40's and 50's respectively. For me this is a non issue. Kraft was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd be shocked if the case makes it to trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc said: It's not a matter of my moral outrage: I think prostitution should be legal. It's the hypocrisy of being an owner in a league that punishes guys caught with weed, a similarly harmless offense, for which they have to face legal repercussions, and even if they don't, still have to face league repercussions. In this case, I'm fine with the video coming out and him skating on charges, meager as they'd be. But let's be real: the manner in which they got him had no bearing on him breaking the law. That's on him and him alone. I agree with you on the absurdity of the outdated drug policy. The league weed policy is foolish. That needs to change and probably will be changed in the next contract agreement. Where I strenuously disagree with you is that it is inappropriate and illegal for a public authority to have evidence and then sell it. Who ever is involved in such an unethical transgression should be fired and criminally charged. I'm not referring to legal public disclosure of evidence but the selling of it by someone involved in the legal system. Your fixation on exposing a tape of an old man getting a tension relieving anal massage is weird. You are kinky, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: I agree with you on the absurdity of the outdated drug policy. The league weed policy is foolish. That needs to change and probably will be changed in the next contract agreement. Where I strenuously disagree with you is that it is inappropriate and illegal for a public authority to have evidence and then sell it. Who ever is involved in such an unethical transgression should be fired and criminally charged. I'm not referring to legal public disclosure of evidence but the selling of it by someone involved in the legal system. Your fixation on exposing a tape of an old man getting a tension relieving anal massage is weird. You are kinky, I don’t agree with selling the tape. But it happens. And like I said, I have no more interest in seeing it than I did that 2 girls 1 cup garbage. Just knowing it’s out there is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The betting line should be on what happens first: the NFL changes its policy on weed or the NFL proudly promotes its first tranny cheerleader- I think the tranny wins that race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Doc said: How? You can challenge whatever you want. You can also make any excuse you want for illegal behavior, but what is it you always said about excuses, John? Absolutely no one but you and that other guy posting here is claiming that these guys have no standing to challenge the video evidence against them. Besides being intuitively true, every development since the story broke has made it overwhelming obvious that not only do they have standing they are using it to challenge the tape and the court is considering its admissibility.....one court has already suppressed it Edited May 3, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Absolutely no one but you and that other guy posting here is claiming that these guys have no standing to challenge the video evidence against them. Besides being intuitively true, every development since the story broke has made it overwhelming obvious that not only do they have standing they are using it to challenge the tape and the court is considering its admissibility.....one court has already suppressed it I have never said they can't challenge it. The question is whether they'll win. And your one alleged example doesn't negate the fact that many others haven't won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 And like I told John, how they caught him wasn't the reason he broke the law. Again if this were anyone else, you wouldn't be writing pages upon pages of defense for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: I have never said they can't challenge it. The question is whether they'll win. And your one alleged example doesn't negate the fact that many others haven't won. Alleged example? https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/us/robert-kraft-spa-surveillance-video/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 11:39 AM, Kirby Jackson said: Think that we now know why the tape is being suppressed.... This Bob Kraft story is the gift that just keeps on giving I mean I just assumed fingers were involved. And which of you sickos would watch this when it gets released??? I’m looking your way BillfromNYC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Bob "Smell My Finger" Kraft. 2 in the stink, 5 on the dink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 https://thebrandedsports.com/2019/05/02/the-jupiter-police-department-is-now-reporting-robert-kraft-likes-fingers-in-his-butt/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I mean I just assumed fingers were involved. And which of you sickos would watch this when it gets released??? I’m looking your way BillfromNYC! 100% I will. I’m going to get a screenshot at the most embarrassing moment and have a sign made that’s 3 sections long. Roll that out vs. the Pats 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 That would be awesome! But actually making it just life-size and passing it around might be even more embarrassing (and far less......”flattering”). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Booby can buy his way out of the criminal charges He’s tainted for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: 2 in the stink, 5 on the dink? I just threw up a little bit. 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: 100% I will. I’m going to get a screenshot at the most embarrassing moment and have a sign made that’s 3 sections long. Roll that out vs. the Pats Maybe one of those crowd flip card things? I'll donate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I just threw up a little bit. Maybe one of those crowd flip card things? I'll donate. This is EXACTLY What I had in mind. I want to see him just like this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 ....so is this "life without parole" he's facing?.....Miami prosecutorial dollars well spent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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