YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Ed Oliver, DT, Houston. Receiver is a bigger need. But Kyle Williams' retirement leaves a job opening for the role of penetrating defensive tackle. Oliver isn't as polished as Aaron Donald was when he entered the league out of Pittsburgh in 2014 ... but he has eerily similar athletic talent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 He is a monster who has been capable of disrupting offenses, that is for certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Did someone tell them this isn't 2018? ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Trapasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 last year. That guy needs to sit a few plays out or better yet, find a new industry. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, McBean said: Trapasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 last year. That guy needs to sit a few plays out or better yet, find a new industry. This is a mock draft, not his big board 24 minutes ago, TroutDog said: He is a monster who has been capable of disrupting offenses, that is for certain. I really like Oliver. He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona For the record, I'd be happy with this. He is very talented, and at one point considered a top 3 pick before his run in with Major Applewhite. I prefer OL or WR, but if Oliver is on the board at 9, he is the BPA in my opinion. I just re-watched some of his highlights just for a refresher, and man can that guy move for a guy his size. He is fast off the ball and relentless in his pursuit. He would absolutely make this Defense better and be fun to watch at the same time. Edited January 28, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Ed Oliver gives us a franchise player on every level of the Defense. It's going to be hard to pass him up. Fits the city of Buffalo like a glove, 3 years of incredible productivity and fits a position of need/BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is a mock draft, not his big board I really like Oliver. He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. I agree. While an edge rusher is the sexier pick, Oliver has been a force. His knee issue shouldn’t be a factor. As with all picks there there is a chance he won’t hold up to his draft status but Oliver has excelled at every level. In addition, with our D being so poor against the run at times he should be a major help in that area (so long as we can somehow learn to set the edge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 D line is the only pick other than offense I’d be happy with. Him or Sweat look to be game wreckers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. You don't pass up on an Ed Oliver level talent for those three. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona I always hate when they compare a player to a recent all-pro. Makes you worry that a team may get stuck on that and not evaluate the prospect themselves. I think Oliver is a beast though. I dont believe he will be there at 9. Edited January 28, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just don’t take away his jacket!!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Just don’t take away his jacket!!!! Yeah, is he a firecracker or was that one foolish incident? He is the same size as Nkemdiche. Both were considered top overall picks at points in their college careers. I see the talent but this seems like a boom or bust selection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. At this pace, Aaron Donald will go down as one of, if not the greatest interior defensive lineman EVER. Yeah, I'd say the bar is a bit high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: At this pace, Aaron Donald will go down as one of, if not the greatest interior defensive lineman EVER. Yeah, I'd say the bar is a bit high. Lots of guys have size, strength, speed, etc. What sets the Aaron Donald's apart from the rest is the intense work ethic. Guys who freak out at their coaches and sit their senior years do not have the work ethic it takes to become Aaron Donald. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 He's a great talent, no doubt. When he wants to be. He takes some plays off, but does seem to show up in big moments. While he is strong and has a very quick get off, he needs a lot of work when it comes to shedding blockers/hand work. If he puts that together, he's a perfect 3 tech for us( dependant upon his attitude and consistency) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Yeah, is he a firecracker or was that one foolish incident? He is the same size as Nkemdiche. Both were considered top overall picks at points in their college careers. I see the talent but this seems like a boom or bust selection. I don’t know if any similar transgressions, but he does have a reputation as a guy who doesn’t necessarily give his 110% on the field all the time. That is worrisome to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. Beane has said numerous times that we won't draft strictly for need, it will be BPA. Also with K.W. retiring, it is arguably a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 I don’t have great confidence in our DL coach. And with Kyle gone, we lose that element of mentorship too. I’m not saying that’s a reason to pass on a talent ... but I would be less worried about bringing in a vet where you already know who he is, than a raw rookie on the DL. Not every rookie is considered raw though... some are more polished and were more well coached in college than others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t have great confidence in our DL coach. And with Kyle gone, we lose that element of mentorship too. I’m not saying that’s a reason to pass on a talent ... but I would be less worried about bringing in a vet where you already know who he is, than a raw rookie on the DL. Not every rookie is considered raw though... some are more polished and were more well coached in college than others Hughes can serve as his tutor on how to draw a personal foul by cursing at the ref at the most inopportune time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Donald was a far more polished pass rusher than Oliver in college but Oliver to me is still one of the top 3 prospects in this draft. Would love to have him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. Did we sign Jordan Phillips this offseason? I missed that. If so that is a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t know if any similar transgressions, but he does have a reputation as a guy who doesn’t necessarily give his 110% on the field all the time. That is worrisome to me. Why are you making things up? LOL! Quote I think every defensive-line coach in the country should make a cut-up tape highlighting the effort from Oliver. He never quits on a play. Ever. It is a great lesson for every player at the position. He chases plays 30-40 yards down the field, and then he lines up and goes 100 mph on the very next play. It's a great indicator of the work he puts in during the offseason, as well as the personal drive he possesses. I was told by one of his former teammates that the coaching staff at Houston hands out an effort award after studying the game tape, and Oliver wins that award almost every week. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000936825/article/scouting-ed-oliver-houston-dt-has-aaron-donaldlike-promise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, wppete said: Did we sign Jordan Phillips this offseason? I missed that. If so that is a great signing. no but i just have a feeling they will sign him. i should have said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Donald was a far more polished pass rusher than Oliver in college but Oliver to me is still one of the top 3 prospects in this draft. Would love to have him here. He's not the pass rusher that Donald is. He needs work on his finishing and his hand work which is two things Aaron Donald is elite elite at but with coaching you'd think he could improve here. He's already an elite run defender and he makes plays behind the line. 53 tackles for loss, 5 FF and 13.5 sacks in 32 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Great talent, I’m not sure he fits the culture this team is trying to build. I would be surprised if we picked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, wppete said: Did we sign Jordan Phillips this offseason? I missed that. If so that is a great signing. Still working on getting it done as far as I know. Strong interest on both sides according to Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, billspro said: Great talent, I’m not sure he fits the culture this team is trying to build. I would be surprised if we picked him. Because his coach on the hot seat flipped out on him on the sidelines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I have heard rumors that the Giants are high on Drew Lock. I am praying this is true, but it is probably draft misdirection. But damn, if they took Lock at 6 it would completely shake up the first round, hopefully in our favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I’d be quite happy with Ed Oliver. Dude can play and can be a major backfield disruptor. It would be a very good pick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, billspro said: Great talent, I’m not sure he fits the culture this team is trying to build. I would be surprised if we picked him. The benefit of building a team with a good culture is that you can add a player or two with a sketchy history and count on your team leaders keeping him on the right path. That being said, aside from some questions about him taking off plays, I never heard much about him being an issue, until his run in with Applewhite. Everyone deserves a pass, but if it helped him drop to us at 9, we owe Major A. a big thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Because his coach on the hot seat flipped out on him on the sidelines? If the Bills staff feels he fits then I would be all for the pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 11 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: The benefit of building a team with a good culture is that you can add a player or two with a sketchy history and count on your team leaders keeping him on the right path. That being said, aside from some questions about him taking off plays, I never heard much about him being an issue, until his run in with Applewhite. Everyone deserves a pass, but if it helped him drop to us at 9, we owe Major A. a big thank you. Just wondering where you have seen he takes plays off? That's the first I heard of this. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Oliver would be a good pick. Some compare him to Donald but he doesn't have the same strength as Donald and his size is a bit smaller. I still think that he could be an outright great interior pass rusher and at pick 9 would be a risk worth taking as I think the interior pass rush is a more intimidate need than the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 21 hours ago, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. None of these guys fit as a 3tech. With that being said i'd rather sign Grady Jarett then draft any of these DT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I’d like to see us grab Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama at 9 and then trade back up & grab a WR, either Harry, Brown or Metcalf. Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloFan68 said: I’d like to see us grab Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama at 9 and then trade back up & grab a WR, either Harry, Brown or Metcalf. Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! I have a feeling we will do something along these lines. Make our pick at 9 and then trade back into the late first for a WR. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) I believe Oliver would be considered an impact player and worthy of pick # 9. Loved his highlight video. Edited January 29, 2019 by richardb1952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 13 hours ago, noacls said: Just wondering where you have seen he takes plays off? That's the first I heard of this. Thanks To be honest, I thought I had read that back when he had his run in over the jacket but after searching for it again, I did not see anything to this effect, so I retract that remark. (the comment may have been more about his "unwillingness" to play through his injury last season thank his effort in games) Certainly from the couple of times I've seen him play, along with the highlight video that is out there, he appears to go full speed and not give up from what I have seen. He seems like a player who could make a serious impact, as long as his size does not have a negative effect on his play in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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