Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Edited January 11, 2019 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: My guess? Kubiaks like - we got this with case keenum. And Elway disagreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, dneveu said: My guess? Kubiaks like - we got this with case keenum. And Elway disagreed. Even Better: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Even Better: I LOL'd at that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 How much more of a leash will Elway have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 HAHAHA all of this over Rico! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, boco357 said: How much more of a leash will Elway have? That's a good question...he's shown an inability to draft a QB (Osweiler, Paxton Lynch) and that's usually going to end your career. At some point Joe Ellis needs to find a way to move on from Elway as GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WMDman said: HAHAHA all of this over Rico! Haha. Like WTF? This guy gets more play than David Dennison. I just don't get it. Imagine someone pounding on the table; "GET ME RICK DENNISON OR I'M OUTTA HERE!" Edited January 11, 2019 by LSHMEAB 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not a surprise that Kubiak wanted Dennison with him and Elway wanted nothing to do with him. Elway is right to avoid bringing Dennison back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Elway is right to avoid bringing Dennison back. Elway is wrong to try and force Kubiak on Fangio in the first place. You hire a coach for their vision and trust them to build a staff to accomplish that vision. Between this, the ownership issues, and a roster that is fading fast, it's a great situation for Vic. Edited January 11, 2019 by TheElectricCompany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Maybe the game has now passed Kubiak on by.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Elway is wrong to try and force Kubiak on Fangio in the first place. You hire a coach for their vision and trust them to build a staff to accomplish that vision. Between this, the ownership issues, and a roster that is fading fast, it's a great situation for Vic. "But other than That, Mrs Lincoln, How did you like the play?" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 ...sounds like Yolo's "good buddy" Horseface has the Broncos lookin' like the SS Minnow in need of new bilge pumps.......Big Bad John thought Kubiak was a shoo-in to remain with the organization and glad to see Gary stood his ground......Elway's ego is bigger than the Rockies, so touche'......poor Vic......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...sounds like Yolo's "good buddy" Horseface has the Broncos lookin' like the SS Minnow in need of new bilge pumps.......Big Bad John thought Kubiak was a shoo-in to remain with the organization and glad to see Gary stood his ground......Elway's ego is bigger than the Rockies, so touche'......poor Vic......... LOL, there is a lot of WTF going on out here in Broncoland! I Love it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: LOL, there is a lot of WTF going on out here in Broncoland! I Love it. ....sounds like there could be a "popcorn shortage emergency" on the horizon.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 So, they hired Fangio because (apparently) he would be willing to accept Kubiak, and now they can't hire Kubiak because he wanted to hire Dennison? You'd think that a GM would have vetted these types of issues prior to making a hiring. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: So, they hired Fangio because (apparently) he would be willing to accept Kubiak, and now they can't hire Kubiak because he wanted to hire Dennison? You'd think that a GM would have vetted these types of issues prior to making a hiring. ...so you're questioning JOHN ELWAY?.....blasphemy my friend....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Can't believe he and Elway broke up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, boco357 said: How much more of a leash will Elway have? It took a lot for the fans to turn on Elway, but ... here in Colorado it's finally happening. Elway is largely responsible for two great things: drafting (and then re-signing for big bucks) Vonn Miller, and signing Peyton Manning. But the good feelings and results that came from that do wear out after a period of time. He really flubbed this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sounds like there could be a "popcorn shortage emergency" on the horizon.... Don’t worry, they legalized marijuana for this very type of situation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Don’t worry, they legalized marijuana for this very type of situation. ...thinkin' perhaps a GO FUND ME page to get Fangio a bong before he arrives....r u in?........ Edited January 11, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, TheElectricCompany said: Elway is wrong to try and force Kubiak on Fangio in the first place. You hire a coach for their vision and trust them to build a staff to accomplish that vision. Between this, the ownership issues, and a roster that is fading fast, it's a great situation for Vic. Well, Fangio didn't have to take the position. I agree with your second sentence; Fangio knew the deal and took it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, TheElectricCompany said: Elway is wrong to try and force Kubiak on Fangio in the first place. You hire a coach for their vision and trust them to build a staff to accomplish that vision. Between this, the ownership issues, and a roster that is fading fast, it's a great situation for Vic. It wouldve been awkward too with kubiak there when he won a sb as hc and some of those players remain. Cant imagine fangio really wanted that no matter what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 At some point Elway needs to either come down and coach the team or start leaving his staff alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 16 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Haha. Like WTF? This guy gets more play than David Dennison. I just don't get it. Imagine someone pounding on the table; "GET ME RICK DENNISON OR I'M OUTTA HERE!" Are you Imagining McD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Flip Johnson said: At some point Elway needs to either come down and coach the team or start leaving his staff alone. As they say, if you can’t leave your staff alone, you’ll eventually go blind. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's not a terrible situation, I don't think. The D is elite (5th in DVOA and possessing terrific talent), and Fangio is a really good defensive coach. They lost a ton of close games this season and weren't far from being 10-6. They were a tough out for the teams that beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 16 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Whelp, in 2-3 years we'll find out whether John Elway is the bumbling idiot many think he is or a competant professional who rightly put his stamp on the organization he was in charge of. I'm a strong lean towards the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 All Elway did right was convince Peyton to sign there. That's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 18 hours ago, WMDman said: HAHAHA all of this over Rico! Well anyone named Rico is a bad joke. He should get rid of the stupid nickname. 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: Whelp, in 2-3 years we'll find out whether John Elway is the bumbling idiot many think he is or a competant professional who rightly put his stamp on the organization he was in charge of. I'm a strong lean towards the former. Not surprising that you lean that based on your fact free quote or do you have something to back up "bumbling idiot many think"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Well anyone named Rico is a bad joke. He should get rid of the stupid nickname. Not surprising that you lean that based on your fact free quote or do you have something to back up "bumbling idiot many think"? Shall we start with Joseph or Siemian or Osweiler or Kelly or Lynch or Keenum? I could go google John Elway idiot moves, but those are off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Shall we start with Joseph or Siemian or Osweiler or Kelly or Lynch or Keenum? I could go google John Elway idiot moves, but those are off the top of my head. Yes but you said many not just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Wonderful. We'll put you firmly in the John Elway is a genius camp. Sure Royal "We" again. This is not politics with one side or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Call me crazy, but I didn’t really mind Dennison when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Call me crazy, but I didn’t really mind Dennison when he was here. Too easy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: Whelp, in 2-3 years we'll find out whether John Elway is the bumbling idiot many think he is or a competent professional who rightly put his stamp on the organization he was in charge of. I'm a strong lean towards the former. Elway has surely failed, so far, at the GM's ultimate task: finding the team a long-term quality NFL starter at QB. I don't know if that makes him a "bumbling idiot", but it will surely doom him as a GM if he doesn't quickly figure it out. I'm not sure moving on from Kubiak is really more than noise. There's no question Kubiak knows something, but to have a 4x Superbowl winner and former HC of the team during a SB win as one's OC sounds like a "setup for second guessing" to a new HC. Denver has a bunch of guys who played under Kubiak still on the roster, it's not a comfortable situation. And frankly, the Broncos offense under Kubiak and Dennison was simply not good. Peyton Manning shadow of himself yadda yadda - the previous year, Gase worked well with what Manning was comfortable with and able to do, Dennison did not and was very stubborn about changing. If that's the reason to move on from Kubiak as OC, good reason IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Rick Dennison as OC = “Baaaaaaaaaad Things Man!” 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Call me crazy, but I didn’t really mind Dennison when he was here. He was a terrible OC and rightfully fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Rick Dennison as OC = “Baaaaaaaaaad Things Man!” He was a terrible OC and rightfully fired Dennison in his sleep is far superior to Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Gugny said: Dennison in his sleep is far superior to Daboll. Your opinion. I disagree. I felt that Daboll did more with less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Your opinion. I disagree. I felt that Daboll did more with less. 30th overall offense in the league isn't doing more. It's horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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