Doc Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 19 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: "well-documented history of altercations" There even is video of him assaulting a teammate: That penalty told me everything I needed to know about the hard=on the zebras have for Jerry and the degree to which they are willing to go to give the Cheaters any call they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 9:28 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Ellison is no stranger to verbal confrontation. He was suspended in 2013 for “profane and derogatory comments” he allegedly made toward Washington tackle Trent Williams. At the time, only 5 other situations in NFL history spawned a suspension (in some cases more than one official). Should the leave be extended into a suspension, he will join Jack Fette as the only official to be suspended for separate incidents. Ellison was the umpire in Super Bowl LII last February as well as Super Bowl XLIII (Steelers-Cardinals). Since 2007, he has missed the postseason only twice, one was due to a late-season injury. He is also one of the league’s 24 full-time officials. Hughes, as the NFLRA notes, also has history with conflict with officials. According to Spotrac, Hughes was fined $22,050 for abusive language towards an official in a 2014 game in Miami and $23,152 for verbal abuse of an official the following season against the Giants. The current NFL rule/fine structure that punishes players and coaches from accosting officials do nothing, and it is time for the NFL to start suspending players and coaches who make it a point to berate officials after the game. There were two high-profile incidents this weekend where players made it a point to seek out and berate officials after the clock hit zero. The first one was the Buffalo Bills Jerry Hughes going after official Roy Ellison in the tunnel after the game. Another happened this weekend as Taylor Lewan of the Tennessee Titans made it a point to berate Jerome Boger’s crew as they were running off the field There could be extenuating circumstances surrounding the Hughes incident and Ellison is on administrative leave while the NFL continues it’s investigation. Extenuating circumstances or not, the NFL must crack down on postgame abuse of officials. Why do players wait until after the game to accost the officials? Simple: They do not risk costing their team a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty The officials can’t eject them The fine structure is no deterrent For many NFL players, a five, 10 or 25-thousand dollar fine does not impact their economic life. Some players set aside a part of their salary to pay NFL fines. The fact that the game is over allows them to get a shot at the officials without fear of harming their team. The fine is insignificant to them. Lol that's a joke. How about its time that officials stop being untouchable. How about they start getting suspended and fined for terrible officiating? Until recently their biggest punishment was not being called up to ref the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Lol that's a joke. How about its time that officials stop being untouchable. How about they start getting suspended and fined for terrible officiating? Until recently their biggest punishment was not being called up to ref the superbowl. One official was fired earlier this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: One official was fired earlier this season. For what, calling a game evenly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 still expecting a $$ fine for hughes no matter what a small one if they can prove Ref guilty a big one if no proof.....jerry threatened a ref with harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 $53K fine......what did the ref get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: $53K fine......what did the ref get? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/08/jerry-hughes-fined-53482-for-run-in-with-ref/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: One official was fired earlier this season. I know, that's why I said recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: $53K fine......what did the ref get? $53k for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: $53k for the season. I thought the average salary for refs were $250k w/ full benefits, plus they are in a union Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 9 hours ago, The Wiz said: For what, calling a game evenly? I'm not sure that has happened this year. Nfl...Nonstop Flag League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) On 12/5/2018 at 9:39 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: VIOLATION FIRST OFFENSE SECOND OFFENSE Offense Against Game Official Physical Contact With Official $33,425 $66,852 Verbal or Other Non-physical Offense Against Official $26,739 $53,482 Hughes' 2nd offense dictated the money paid as a fine. Edited December 9, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SinceThe70s Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I question whether the administrative leave would have happened without the unsportsmanlike conduct. The NFL needs TMZ to surface the video/audio of the alleged on-field incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I question whether the administrative leave would have happened without the unsportsmanlike conduct. The NFL needs TMZ to surface the video/audio of the alleged on-field incident. The Bills reported Ellison to the league office after McDermott talked with Hughes. Other players backed up his story about the derogatory name that was uttered. Edited December 9, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Bills reported Ellison to the league office after MCDermott talked with Hughes. Other players backed up his story about the derogatory name that was uttered. Thanks. Two points: I wouldn't put it past the NFL to have buried the Bills report absent the Hughes outburst on video. It seems more likely than not that video/audio of the incident exists. We may need TMZ to surface it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: Thanks. Two points: I wouldn't put it past the NFL to have buried the Bills report absent the Hughes outburst on video. It seems more likely than not that video/audio of the incident exists. We may need TMZ to surface it. Good point. It couldn't be ignored after John Scott posted the video that was picked up nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steptide Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 So I guess there was truth to Hughes claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Steptide said: So I guess there was truth to Hughes claims You'd think so with him being fined the equivalent of a game check. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Why is it that none of these officials ever get fired? I think I have heard of one guy in all my years of watching football that was actually fired. There must be thousands of people that would kill for the job and I would imagine would do a much better job than many of the current geriatric zebras. This season has seemed especially bad when it comes to penalties and missed calls. Time for some new blood and an actual competency review every season. Maybe I just don't realize how hard the job is and these guys are doing a good job? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I had no idea they earned that much per game... wonder if they get reimbursed for expenses (travel, hotel, meals) - not a bad gig as they probably make 30-40K or more for post-season games. Money well-spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: Why is it that none of these officials ever get fired? I think I have heard of one guy in all my years of watching football that was actually fired. There must be thousands of people that would kill for the job and I would imagine would do a much better job than many of the current geriatric zebras. This season has seemed especially bad when it comes to penalties and missed calls. Time for some new blood and an actual competency review every season. Maybe I just don't realize how hard the job is and these guys are doing a good job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Can we get an agreement from the league to not allow Ellison to officiate Bills games, or at least games Hughes is playing in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eball Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Hughes = winner That game check (and partial suspension) for the ref hurt him far more than Hughes' fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, eball said: Hughes = winner That game check (and partial suspension) for the ref hurt him far more than Hughes' fine. Not to mention this is his 3rd? Time that he has been accused by players. Something to remember if we hear his name again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: As I stated in my post, " I think I have heard of one guy in all my years of watching football that was actually fired." This is the one I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: As I stated in my post, " I think I have heard of one guy in all my years of watching football that was actually fired." This is the one I was thinking of. I think they have forced some officials into "retirement" in the last few seasons. LorAx is on OBL talking about the incident between Hughes and Ellison. He said Hughes was running off the field when Ellison created the issue by calling him the derogatory name. Edited December 14, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, WideNine said: I had no idea they earned that much per game... wonder if they get reimbursed for expenses (travel, hotel, meals) - not a bad gig as they probably make 30-40K or more for post-season games. Money well-spent. Almost certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 9:10 AM, Doc said: That penalty told me everything I needed to know about the hard=on the zebras have for Jerry and the degree to which they are willing to go to give the Cheaters any call they can. Honestly, I won't be shocked if an official gets seriously injured by a player sometime soon. The officials need to be INVISIBLE in games unless the penalty is blatantly obvious. They ruin the flow of the game, now they insult players, what's next? Only a matter of time before a player takes their helmet off and swings it over an officials head when he's making a bogus call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Can we get an agreement from the league to not allow Ellison to officiate Bills games, or at least games Hughes is playing in? If this doesn’t count as an inherent conflict of interest down the road for any future Bills games he works, IDK what is. The fact he’s still allowed to carry on after such a shameful incident at all, will simply cement in a lot of fans’ minds the reality that the officiating is inherently suspect/open for bias taint, and that’s the real shame going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 NFL officiating accountability is an absolute joke. This is a multi-billion dollar industry. There is no need for these refs to be entitled to their position. There's rampant nepotism, and the same handful of men hold the "esteemed" title of head referee. Makes you wonder why the NFL is so quick to keep their boys. A fine and one-game suspension is not an accurate punishment for delegitimizing the impartiality of their sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: LorAx is on OBL talking about the incident between Hughes and Ellison. He said Hughes was running off the field when Ellison created the issue by calling him the derogatory name. Then it seems about right for Hughes to get 6 times the penalty ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, chknwing334 said: Why is it that none of these officials ever get fired? I think I have heard of one guy in all my years of watching football that was actually fired. There must be thousands of people that would kill for the job and I would imagine would do a much better job than many of the current geriatric zebras. This season has seemed especially bad when it comes to penalties and missed calls. Time for some new blood and an actual competency review every season. Maybe I just don't realize how hard the job is and these guys are doing a good job? Ed Hoculi retired and nobody dares to say that a majority belong in offices; instead of making field calls. I still remember when Bryan Cox jumped offside during a game and an official who had actually played ball; drove him back while throwing a flag on the center who had moved his hand just the slightest inch. Cox was still trying to move, and said if he had not of stopped the old boy would have kicked his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 18 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The NFLRA is a joke and makes itself just look silly by trying to argue this slap on the wrist was excessive somehow ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said: The NFLRA is a joke and makes itself just look silly by trying to argue this slap on the wrist was excessive somehow ??♂️ They are advocates for their membership no matter what. They also defended the official who was fired earlier this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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