Jags Game discussion - what say you?

[RiotAct]

if JAX wins tomorrow: 31-20 Jags.

 

if JAX loses tomorrow: they pack it in mentally. 24-10 Bills.

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

if JAX wins tomorrow: 31-20 Jags.

 

if JAX loses tomorrow: they pack it in mentally. 24-10 Bills.

 

I don’t think either of those things will happen.......tomorrow.   ?

[plenzmd1]

On 11/16/2018 at 5:31 PM, jr1 said:

Doug lost the locker room

Sure feels that way no? 

On 11/16/2018 at 5:33 PM, Augie said:

Speed on the field is a good thing. 

 

Don’t let Bortles run for 300 yards would be my first suggestion. 

 

 

that would help!

 

Now , a couple of things. See most people in this thread say the Jags are going to get run by the Steelers..looks like I am betting the Jags today.

 

Cant decide who I want to win that game. Still despise Marrone, revel in every game he loses and hope he gets fired at end of year. But, I kinda want them to win today so he can come to Buffalo with some hope and we just step on his throat and squeeze the hope and life right out of that team.

[Victory Formation]

I think their defense shuts down our offense. Our defense contains their offense but they're still able to put up some points on us. Jaguars win by a few touchdowns.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

The real question here is do I start Fournette in FFB?

 

 

[Victory Formation]

28 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The real question here is do I start Fournette in FFB?

 

 

I would not. I'd be shocked if he has a big game, but it's possible I guess.

[longtimebillsfan]

On 11/16/2018 at 9:30 PM, BuffAlone said:

The offense looked better than capable under Barkley's command, but I have a serious case of J.A.W.S.( Josh Allen Withdrawl Syndrome). 

I just wanna watch the kid grow the next several games. And oh yeah, Josh, make Ramsey look like a fool please?

I agree with you.  Even though the Bills have struggled.   I am looking forward to seeing Allen play again.  I really do not like the bye week.

[billsredneck1]

win or lose the jags are gonna wanna throw down when they get here.  i don't see where 6 games is a must for josh's development.  5 is plenty.

i want to see a competitive offensive output just like last week. i don't want to just take a step back to where we were 2 weeks ago.

 

i also think starting barkley gives our new additions another week to get into a groove vs. their 2nd qb in 2 weeks....and maybe dabol can find a little more cohesiveness with the offensive gameplan.  it's a win/win.  if he gets us another w,  they can choose to start josh against miami.

 

not giving barkley a 2nd game is a sure way to make sure he goes elsewhere after the season.  i can't see why any qb would want to come here as it stands already.

 

if they lose, they are out and it's allen the rest of the way.  all sides can be happy and see some growth as well.  like i said, i don't think 6 games vs. 5 is crucial to allen's development.

that's just a b.s. loser mentality.  this is a team game. the most important thing for this TEAM'S development is winning.

[GRHater69]

I have a friend in FLA who is a Jags fan. He doesn't think Marrone is in trouble this year unless they totally collapse down the stretch. He said most fans are unhappy with the GM Caldwell and that the team may be in some cap trouble next year and will have to shed or restructure contracts on the defensive side of the ball that could really hurt the team. Fans are also not happy that they extended Bortles and gave him so much cash and he's responded by playing like he always has. And a lot of people down there think if Marrone stays he may need to shakeup the staff. The offense has struggled, but the real problem has been the defense. Even though he wasn't a world beater in the middle, the retirement of former Bill Paul Posluzney has hurt both in the locker room and on the field. 

[stuvian]

I think my tickets for this game aren't worth toilet paper on the secondary market

[Nick the Greek]

I hate Doug Marrone. I hope we trash the Jags.

[RiotAct]

11 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t think either of those things will happen.......tomorrow.   ?

haha, well today as of 10:47 AM Eastern Time.

[freddyjj]

5 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

win or lose the jags are gonna wanna throw down when they get here.  i don't see where 6 games is a must for josh's development.  5 is plenty.

i want to see a competitive offensive output just like last week. i don't want to just take a step back to where we were 2 weeks ago.

 

i also think starting barkley gives our new additions another week to get into a groove vs. their 2nd qb in 2 weeks....and maybe dabol can find a little more cohesiveness with the offensive gameplan.  it's a win/win.  if he gets us another w,  they can choose to start josh against miami.

 

not giving barkley a 2nd game is a sure way to make sure he goes elsewhere after the season.  i can't see why any qb would want to come here as it stands already.

 

if they lose, they are out and it's allen the rest of the way.  all sides can be happy and see some growth as well.  like i said, i don't think 6 games vs. 5 is crucial to allen's development.

that's just a b.s. loser mentality.  this is a team game. the most important thing for this TEAM'S development is winning.

Jags are looking tough vs Steelers through first half today.  Might there be a mental letdown when they come to WNY?

 

Your logic here might be slightly flawed.  

1. The new additions (Foster, McKenzie) practiced as much with Josh in week leading up to Jets game as with Barkley.  Foster had OTAs, preseason and first 6 games to practice with Josh.  And since Thompson came in Josh had the most reps with all 3 WRs.
2. Daboll will have a choice of 3 deep threats to scheme with now.  The offense will not look like the first 9 weeks given new WRs and  new O Lineman.  
3. Barkley is not a high priority FA for any team next year - he was sitting on his couch 3 weeks ago.  And he threw 2 INTs that the Jets DBs chose to drop, the Jags won't.   The veteran QB who is here next year will know his job is to be the backup and the $$$ spent will determine who comes (or stays).
4. And every game is critical to a young QBs development.  Mahomes watched for almost the entire year season last year because Smith was better at that point and the Chiefs were in playoffs and could have gone far.  Bills are out of contention and Barkley is not better than Allen at this point. 
5. Give Josh the new scheme and players and let's Go Bills!

 

 

[PlayoffsPlease]

The Steelers have really been exposed as pretenders. 

[freddyjj]

1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

The Steelers have really been exposed as pretenders. 

Big Ben looking his age.  We could see this be his last year.

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Big Ben looking his age.  We could see this be his last year.

Seems like a good time to remember this

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/steelers/2018/05/05/ben-roethlisberger-surprised-steelers-drafted-qb-mason-rudolph/583651002/

[PlayoffsPlease]

terrible face mask call

[JinxedBill1]

Undisplined Jags team gave it to the Steelers.  

[CircleTheWagons99]

Bortals with the fumble to end it. 

[Alaska Darin]

Doug Moron.  

[JimKellyTryouts]

They're going to be pissed off this full week of practice...definitely a tough but winnable game coming up

[Mr. WEO]

26 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

terrible face mask call

 

 

joking, right?  He spun him around and took him down by his mask

[TigerJ]

I love the finish.  If you want the Bills to win next week, this couldn't have been better.  The Jaguars were playing an emotional all out game and Roethlisberger popped their balloon.  They should be completely drained and properly deflated for next week.

[GETTOTHE50]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

joking, right?  He spun him around and took him down by his mask

 

ikr. he had to do it or it was going to be a TD

[PlayoffsPlease]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

joking, right?  He spun him around and took him down by his mask

You are on the completely wrong play.  It was the play where ramsey lightly brushed his hand on the TE's helmet and they called a 15 yard penalty. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

ikr. he had to do it or it was going to be a TD

 

true

[JoPar_v2]

Bortles is absolute trash I say we win 9-6

[GRHater69]

I love the finish.  If you want the Bills to win next week, this couldn't have been better.  The Jaguars were playing an emotional all out game and Roethlisberger popped their balloon.  They should be completely drained and properly deflated for next week

 

Agree totally.

 

Seems like Marrone isn’t bad at building up franchises but he really really wares out fast. I’m sure his personality has to do with that

 

Only he didn't really build that Jags team. He inherited a lot of those guys from Gus Bradley's regime. Today's loss was textbook from the Bradley years. He has a terrible personality. All this talk that he's the "next Parcells" clearly went to his head.

 

 

Edited November 18, 2018 by GRHater69

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, freddyjj said:

Jags are looking tough vs Steelers through first half today.  Might there be a mental letdown when they come to WNY?

 

Your logic here might be slightly flawed.  

1. The new additions (Foster, McKenzie) practiced as much with Josh in week leading up to Jets game as with Barkley.  Foster had OTAs, preseason and first 6 games to practice with Josh.  And since Thompson came in Josh had the most reps with all 3 WRs.
2. Daboll will have a choice of 3 deep threats to scheme with now.  The offense will not look like the first 9 weeks given new WRs and  new O Lineman.  
3. Barkley is not a high priority FA for any team next year - he was sitting on his couch 3 weeks ago.  And he threw 2 INTs that the Jets DBs chose to drop, the Jags won't.   The veteran QB who is here next year will know his job is to be the backup and the $$$ spent will determine who comes (or stays).
4. And every game is critical to a young QBs development.  Mahomes watched for almost the entire year season last year because Smith was better at that point and the Chiefs were in playoffs and could have gone far.  Bills are out of contention and Barkley is not better than Allen at this point. 
5. Give Josh the new scheme and players and let's Go Bills!

 

 

so...even tho the jags lost, they're gonna be like an injured animal next week.  i don't want to see chaos. i want to see a vet who has been there done that.  people seem to forget that the biggest difference between  a good qb performance and a bad one is decision making, timing and getting rid of the ball.  this could easily go right back in time where sandlot football gives us our only chance to win and i for one don't put a lot of faith in that.

 

maybe josh has made all those mental corrections... or maybe we''ll be praying once again that the defense can put points on the board because it will be our only chance.

people have short memories.  barkley should be starting. if things go south, switch to josh and don't look back.  if josh starts and things go bad, this staff is going to look as inept as the cleveland browns staff had been.

[Doc]

The Jets will probably fire Todd Bowles. This is the perfect time for Dougie to quit and finally get that Jets head-coaching job. 

[freddyjj]

3 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

so...even tho the jags lost, they're gonna be like an injured animal next week.  i don't want to see chaos. i want to see a vet who has been there done that.  people seem to forget that the biggest difference between  a good qb performance and a bad one is decision making, timing and getting rid of the ball.  this could easily go right back in time where sandlot football gives us our only chance to win and i for one don't put a lot of faith in that.

 

maybe josh has made all those mental corrections... or maybe we''ll be praying once again that the defense can put points on the board because it will be our only chance.

people have short memories.  barkley should be starting. if things go south, switch to josh and don't look back.  if josh starts and things go bad, this staff is going to look as inept as the cleveland browns staff had been.

Good points with how Jags will be feeling - game just got tougher.  

 

Not sure what arguing for Barkley accomplishes as Allen will start this game and any others he is healthy for.   He is much more athletic and his arm (and new WRs) will force Jags to defend the whole field - vertically and horizontally.   Steelers started doing damage throwing deep sideline or back shoulders outside the numbers.   Allen is good at those

 

The offense vs Jets will be even more dangerous with a QB who can make all the throws.  Barkley can't.

[Another Fan]

Didn't see the highlights of the game until now.  I don't like Marrone but the refs certainly helped Pittsburgh win it.  That was a joke.  You can't honestly say if the Steelers intercepted that pass with 10 seconds left it would get ruled for a face mask

[John in Jax]

6 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

The Steelers have really been exposed as pretenders. 

What!? I'm LMAO here.

 

Listen, I hate the Steelers as much as anybody, but they usually find a way to win, and rarely are they ever "out of a game", no matter how far they're down. The only reason they didn't beat the Jags in last years playoff game is that they ran out of time.

 

I'm really surprised that the Bills are only 4 point dogs in this one. I don't see it being that close, and I do see the Jags winning it going away, no matter what the TBD psychologists think. LOL

[CaptnCoke11]

4 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Bortles is absolute trash I say we win 9-6

I’m having trouble find 9 points from Buffalo in this one.  

[JoPar_v2]

1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I’m having trouble find 9 points from Buffalo in this one.  

I can see Bort throwing a pick or two or fumbling to give us a few short fields for FGs. He is very terrible

[John in Jax]

9 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

I can see Bort throwing a pick or two or fumbling to give us a few short fields for FGs. He is very terrible

Every once in a while though he has a pretty good game, and since he hasn't had one in a while......

 

Also, you saw the Jags pick off one of the best QBs in the game THREE times yesterday; how many will they get against the Bills scattershot QBs? Accurate throws are not exactly the forte of any of the Bills' QBs. LOL

[PetermansRedemption]

13 minutes ago, John in Jax said:

Every once in a while though he has a pretty good game, and since he hasn't had one in a while......

 

Also, you saw the Jags pick off one of the best QBs in the game THREE times yesterday; how many will they get against the Bills scattershot QBs? Accurate throws are not exactly the forte of any of the Bills' QBs. LOL

 

Away Bortles is almost always poor Bortles. His road/home splits are in stark contrast of one another. Home Bortles pops in a good game every now and then. Away Bortles rarely does. This year he is 63 percent with 7TDs and 2 INTS at home. Away he is 58 percent with 5 TDS sand 6 INTS. Last season he had a 69 passer rating while away and a 98 at home. 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Bills2ref