OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, billspro said: There’s nothing to discuss this is a fact. ...and it means nothing in the grand scheme.......ask Jeff George..........it's a small piece to the overall equation............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Allen isn't even the strongest armed QB we've had on the Buffalo Roster in the past 2 years. Allen has a gun, Cardale Jones has a cannon If arm strength mattered, Cardale Jones would be our starting QB. And on the other hand, Tom Brady has done pretty well with his noodle arm............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, PIZ said: I wonder if his injury will have long term effects on his arm strength. I hope not. You've seen the 1993 movie, Rookie of the Year, right? Josh will be fine...maybe even better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, mrags said: I haven’t seen any deep balls he’s thrown in the NFL games that have proven he has a strong arm. He’s thrown a few lasers. But nothing deep that puts me in awe of his incredible arm. Mahomes on the other hand has thrown some bombs that have made my jaw drop You haven't noticed that he has a strong arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Right now on the NFL I would say Allen, Mahomes and Cam Newton have the strongest arms in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Yup he and Jamarcus Russel both had really strong arms! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, B Fan in LA said: Tom Brady has done pretty well with his noodle arm. Exactly. The winds in Orchard Park are child's play for him. He has the 4th most wins at Rich/Ralph/New Era all time. Only Kelly, Ferguson and Brady's creator, Drew Bledsoe, won more there. Needing top end arm strength to play at New Era is a myth. Edited November 10, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bad Things said: You haven't noticed that he has a strong arm? You haven’t noticed that every time he tries to throw the deep ball it’s seriously underthrown? If not, then I really cannot continue to argue this with you because you are blinded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I'm not sure that the arm strength of Jamarcus Russell was ever documented, but you could almost disqualify him since he was a total dud. Otherwise, I don't think there is anybody else who can match Allen for documented arm strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targetweight185 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Allen has a rocket launcher. Cardale Jones has a cannon. Nathan Peterman has a .22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 hours ago, The_Dude said: Does it matter? Not really, but folks need something to cling to in terms of a positive measurable coming from Allen's game. EJ had a strong arm too. Was also a big, strong, athletic guy who could run. Arm strength doesn't mean a lot if there's nothing to go with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, targetweight185 said: Allen has a rocket launcher. Cardale Jones has a cannon. Nathan Peterman has a .22. So, who's got the Red Ryder BB gun model? (You'll shoot your eye out!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: So, who's got the Red Ryder BB gun model? (You'll shoot your eye out!) Chad Pennington, and he had himself a decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 hours ago, mrags said: I haven’t seen any deep balls he’s thrown in the NFL games that have proven he has a strong arm. He’s thrown a few lasers. But nothing deep that puts me in awe of his incredible arm. Mahomes on the other hand has thrown some bombs that have made my jaw drop you havnt been paying attention then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: you havnt been paying attention then Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, mrags said: Touché Mahomes has a strong arm no doubt. Allen had a TD pass to Benjamin that I couldnt hardly see the ball. I also watch him throw the ball about 65 yards off balance. Now Ive only been watchin football for 30 years, but I have never saw an arm like his. Marino, Elway, Favre are close but not quite. Mahomes has a cannon but not like Allen. Edited November 11, 2018 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, targetweight185 said: Allen has a rocket launcher. Cardale Jones has a cannon. Nathan Peterman has a .22. More like a sling shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I think some of his low completion percentage may be because he needs to take a little juice off it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Mahomes has a strong arm no doubt. Allen had a TD pass to Benjamin that I couldnt hardly see the ball. I also watch him throw the ball about 65 yards off balance. Now Ive only been watchin football for 30 years, but I have never saw an arm like his. Marino, Elway, Favre are close but not quite. Mahomes has a cannon but not like Allen. But he has to learn how to be accurate and know when to throw it gently. If he isn’t accurate nothing matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Mahomes has a strong arm no doubt. Allen had a TD pass to Benjamin that I couldnt hardly see the ball. I also watch him throw the ball about 65 yards off balance. Now Ive only been watchin football for 30 years, but I have never saw an arm like his. Marino, Elway, Favre are close but not quite. Mahomes has a cannon but not like Allen. When he can regularly get the deep ball downfield without the WRs having to stop and come back for it... come talk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: But he has to learn how to be accurate and know when to throw it gently. If he isn’t accurate nothing matters True I think consistent is the more accurate word though. 2 minutes ago, mrags said: When he can regularly get the deep ball downfield without the WRs having to stop and come back for it... come talk to me. Actually he usually overthrows them by quite a bit. Maybe you should pay a little better attention. You must be one of those Mahomes fanboys. I wish we drafted him too but we didnt, get over it. His arm isnt as strong as Allens. Thats not speculation that is fact. Now if you want to say Mahomes is the better QB right now you can because that is a fact. Edited November 11, 2018 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: True I think consistent is the more accurate word though. Actually he usually overthrows them by quite a bit. Maybe you should pay a little better attention. You must be one of those Mahomes fanboys. I wish we drafted him too but we didnt, get over it. His arm isnt as strong as Allens. Thats not speculation that is fact. Now if you want to say Mahomes is the better QB right now you can because that is a fact. Actually I wasn’t a fan of Mahomes. I was a fan of Allen. I don’t think Mahomes would be any good on this team because our team and coaching staff is terrible. I was an Allen ballsucker just like you are now. But I’ve learned. He has underthrown almost every deep pass he’s thrown all year. When he learns how to throw the deep ball without his WRs having not stop and come back for the ball, you can come talk to me. Or you can just keep thinking you know what you are talking about. Either way, I don’t give a damn. He isn’t going to be any good under this coaching staff and they will continue to have a job going forward and continue ruining Allen going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Fastest check down thrown in the Olde West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, mrags said: Actually I wasn’t a fan of Mahomes. I was a fan of Allen. I don’t think Mahomes would be any good on this team because our team and coaching staff is terrible. I was an Allen ballsucker just like you are now. But I’ve learned. He has underthrown almost every deep pass he’s thrown all year. When he learns how to throw the deep ball without his WRs having not stop and come back for the ball, you can come talk to me. Or you can just keep thinking you know what you are talking about. Either way, I don’t give a damn. He isn’t going to be any good under this coaching staff and they will continue to have a job going forward and continue ruining Allen going forward. K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Means bupkiss without accuracy and timing.... Two things Allen won't improve on here... When these twits are done with him, he'll have a great shot at being a backup for a reputable team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 JaMarcus Russell.. Jay Cutler.. as Favre would say.. "who gives a ****?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Josh Allen's elbow injury will cause a change in his delivery resulting in him becoming the most accurate QB in history. It's fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: you havnt been paying attention then ....actually hes right, most of his deep throws have been underthrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What about Cardale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Rebel101 said: What does this matter so did Jamarcus Russel. How’d his arm help him Maybe if Russell bothered to train or learn the offense, he could have done ok. They gave Russell a blank tape several times to see if he watched the game plan for that week against the next opponent, and he would say he watched it. Of course when he said he watched it and never complained that the tape was blank, they knew he didn't watch it. Big difference between him and Allen. So your comment was weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Lafromboise said: Discuss. I believe he blew by mahommes velocity record. I remember guys like Mayock, Kiper Jr. and Jeremiah stating he had the strongest arm they've seen in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Rebel101 said: What does this matter so did Jamarcus Russel. How’d his arm help him $31.5 million guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 So Bills have a QB with strongest arm ever with WRs that can't separate and OL that can't pass block. Doesn't look like a recipe for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The big hands strong arm throw in the cold BS will prove out to be McBeane's downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 18 hours ago, jrober38 said: Who cares? Leave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 If only he was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 18 hours ago, bills11 said: His arm is ridiculous yes..just needs to harness it and learn he doesn't have to throw lasers on every pass . I dont think that is a problem. The problem is processing and anticipating and accuracy. Playing QB requires a number of skills. Arm strength alone is breasts on bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Are we talking about arm wrestling? It's the only "sport" where it matters. Once a QB can throw a fastball it's doesn't matter if it's the fastest. The pass only has to be fast ENOUGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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