Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 And probably millions of dollars by playing him and making him a whipping boy/punchline. Looking at the list of NFL back-ups and third-stringers, NP could well have been a very competent back-up QB and one of the greatest pre-season practise players of all-time. Four years as a back-up with almost no NFL playing time and yes maybe he would have learned, watched and then was given an opportunity much more mature and capable. Maybe he would have succeeded. Look at his predecessor Tyrod Taylor. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm Very simply I feel somewhat sorry for Peterman and blame McD for creating this sham that all started with him and his dismantling of the O in 2017 and the terrible offensive coaching and playcalling. They are to blame for putting Peterman in when he wasn't ready and not giving him the tools (players and schemes) to succeed and ruining what as said could have been a nice career as a buck-up. 6 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Come on.....really??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 He had multiple shots. He blew each one in spectacular career ending fashion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 LOL.....yeah we're missing out on the next Brady....sheesh...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Is....is this for real? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 As long as he is on the roster he is still getting paid..............and may get a chance to redeem himself So he hasn't cost him anything......yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Huh? McD gave Peterman opportunities and Peterman didn’t take advantage because he simply lacks the mental and physical tools of a NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Shame on McD for giving Peterman opportunity, after opportunity, after opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 No.....Clapper McClappy guaranteed NP a fruitful career.....outside of football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Process said: No.....Clapper McClappy guaranteed NP a fruitful career.....outside of football! loved this movie!! Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: And probably millions of dollars by playing him and making him a whipping boy/punchline. Looking at the list of NFL back-ups and third-stringers, NP could well have been a very competent back-up QB and one of the greatest pre-season practise players of all-time. Four years as a back-up with almost no NFL playing time and yes maybe he would have learned, watched and then was given an opportunity much more mature and capable. Maybe he would have succeeded. Look at his predecessor Tyrod Taylor. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm Very simply I feel somewhat sorry for Peterman and blame McD for creating this sham that all started with him and his dismantling of the O in 2017 and the terrible offensive coaching and playcalling. They are to blame for putting Peterman in when he wasn't ready and not giving him the tools (players and schemes) to succeed and ruining what as said could have been a nice career as a buck-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Yeah, the guy could have made millions playing football, if people never saw him play football. Edited November 10, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 What in Peterman's game says "competent back-up QB"? He simply does NOT have an NFL caliber arm which is a prerequisite for even a backup QB. There are so many QBs available with good/adequate arms who are lacking in other aspects of QB play (which is why they don't/didn't make good starters) that a QB without at least a decent arm doesn't stand much chance to last very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Peterman cost himself. He either has it or he doesn't and he doesn't have it. No, he didn't have much help but he isn't competent either. Peterman doesn't have an NFL arm. End of story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 It was tongue in cheek and a reference to a # of QB's who have toiled in anonymity for years as a back-up and actually make good money and seldom see the field. As a fifth round pick if he was as luck as Tyrod (who I do like), he'd have learned for 4 yards, seldom seen trhe field, earned decent money and then get an opportunity and maybe better results. Conversely we have Dak Prescott who had a great situation, an offense that when he first played masked his flaws and shorcomings and he looked like a banafide competent QB. Now when he is asked to throw and lead the Cowboys it is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 no NFL quarterback wants to be a "career backup" or "the best preseason player". Give me a break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Here is a perfect example...... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/chase-daniel-7081/ No career to speak of, but has done pretty well...... $28,000,000 & 233 NFL Snaps!!!!!! Edited November 10, 2018 by Billsfan1972 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I, too, could be a successful NFL quarterback, if I never had to play a down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Interesting point. Kind of like curtis painter when he collected his paycheque for so many years sitting behind Peyton Manning. I get what you’re saying. But it could also be looked the other way. Mcd gave him so many opportunities to play, and if he even did half descent, he would have collected a better NFL paycheque for a longer period of time. At the end of the day Peterman just sucks though and shouldn’t be on a NFL roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Interesting point. Kind of like curtis painter when he collected his paycheque for so many years sitting behind Peyton Manning. I get what you’re saying. But it could also be looked the other way. Mcd gave him so many opportunities to play, and if he even did half descent, he would have collected a better NFL paycheque for a longer period of time. At the end of the day Peterman just sucks though and shouldn’t be on a NFL roster It has been a full descent into the depths of NFL QB infamy with histoically wretched performances. Time for Petermania to mercifully come to an end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It has been a full descent into the depths of NFL QB infamy with histoically wretched performances. Time for Petermania to mercifully come to an end. Lol 100 percent agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Interesting point. Kind of like curtis painter when he collected his paycheque for so many years sitting behind Peyton Manning. I get what you’re saying. But it could also be looked the other way. Mcd gave him so many opportunities to play, and if he even did half descent, he would have collected a better NFL paycheque for a longer period of time. At the end of the day Peterman just sucks though and shouldn’t be on a NFL roster As said I was having fun..... Thanks for reminding me of Curtis Painter. As said TT barely threw a ball prior to being signed by the Bills and had 4 years to watch & learn. He has done well. Chase Daniels just blows me away....... Eli Mannings back-ups probably have done well as have Rivers and other workhorse QB's...... Maybe things would have been different if Peterman had a chance to watch & learn under a smart offensive coach...... A Sliding Doors scenario.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: He had multiple shots. He blew each one in spectacular career ending fashion. You guys are missing the OP's point...His point was that he has killed Peterman's chance to be a decade-long backup who never sees the playing field..and one who has a potential to make 40-50Million as a backup over a decade...Now he could be out of the league by 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The OP is no more on target than those who say Marrone cost EJ a lucrative career. Evidence to the contrary is right in front of all of our faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) There is still hope for him! Look at Todd Collins. He was our starter and played horribly after that he went on for more than a decade of collecting paychecks sitting on the bench. Never let go of your dreams! Edited November 10, 2018 by Leonhart2017 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 "McD cost Peterman a long fruitful career"..... ....likely worse is that McD's only shot as a HC begins and ends with the Bills. Just when Pegula gets done paying Ryan for no show work he'll probably start paying McD for the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, ganesh said: You guys are missing the OP's point...His point was that he has killed Peterman's chance to be a decade-long backup who never sees the playing field..and one who has a potential to make 40-50Million as a backup over a decade...Now he could be out of the league by 2019 Nope, not even this. If he is out of the league by 2019, which is not a given, it’s not on McDermott. The coach gave him his chance and, sadly, he wasn’t up to the task. Not on the coach at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Nope, not even this. If he is out of the league by 2019, which is not a given, it’s not on McDermott. The coach gave him his chance and, sadly, he wasn’t up to the task. Not on the coach at all. He wasn't ready and should never have seen the field beyond mop up duty..... As said tongue in cheek & while I never want to see Peterman start or succeed for the Bills, as that would be fools gold and we'd (as fans and those on this site) be stuck in multiple threads and back & forths as to his ability or to keep him and trot him out over & over, I do to some extent feel sorry & bad for him. As said too, this is entriely McD's fault. Now I wonder if anyone asks Chase Daniels whether he'd rather have $28,000,000 or have been given the opportunity that NP got? Oh & thanks to all that got the gist of the thread....... Edited November 10, 2018 by Billsfan1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 And somwhere there is some guy bagging groceries that never got a chance but could be the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 This is nonsense. The guy throws from his tippy toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I think this should be reversed; Peterman cost McD a long and fruitful career. Generously, McDermott has one more year to fix a spectacularly awful offense with multiple holes and too few draft picks to plug them. If he can't pull off that miracle, he's done in Buffalo. And when he's on the job market, he'll be known as the guy who stubbornly, repeatedly tried to prove that the worst QB who ever took a snap in an NFL game was a starter. No GM or owner will ever give him a chance to run an NFL team again. He'll be hired as a DC, but his long and fruitful career as a HC would be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Perry Turtle said: I think this should be reversed; Peterman cost McD a long and fruitful career. Generously, McDermott has one more year to fix a spectacularly awful offense with multiple holes and too few draft picks to plug them. If he can't pull off that miracle, he's done in Buffalo. And when he's on the job market, he'll be known as the guy who stubbornly, repeatedly tried to prove that the worst QB who ever took a snap in an NFL game was a starter. No GM or owner will ever give him a chance to run an NFL team again. He'll be hired as a DC, but his long and fruitful career as a HC would be over. If clappy gets canned he done it to himself......McDummy is the one who continously trotts out Peterman again and again and again and again.....well you get the gist..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 What kind of talent evaluation brought him here in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, JPP said: If clappy gets canned he done it to himself......McDummy is the one who continously trotts out Peterman again and again and again and again.....well you get the gist..... McDummy...really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: What kind of talent evaluation brought him here in the first place? Peterman or McD? Peterman was probably fine as a fifth round draft pick. McD screwed it all up with his preseason moves in 2017 and thinking Offense is an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: McDummy...really?? can you think of a better one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I feel your pain, Nate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: Peterman or McD? Peterman was probably fine as a fifth round draft pick. McD screwed it all up with his preseason moves in 2017 and thinking Offense is an afterthought. You mean as a wasted 5th round pick. Sure you cant hit them all. Then in the offseason they evaluated a guy who doesn't have NFL talent as their only backup to a rookie!!! That's brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 WHO CARES? This is the Not For Long NFL and if that is your actual hope to be a long term backup then the one thing you never ever do is CONSISTANTLY turn the ball over. McD is looking for a Starter.. He has had to put in Peterman out of need more then anything else. You think McD or most of us here really care for one SECOND that him being a long term back up is ruined? You think McD is thinking about this? all the answers you will see to the questions end up as a NO. He has a college education, something that millions around America cant afford to do and you want us to care about him being a long term backup? Here is a fact. because he has played at least one regular season game in the last 2 years as a starter, he will earn by end of this season around 1.7 million. his advantage is he gets to use that money to get his masters degree some where and live a rich life not having a College debt. and you want us to pity him? HA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 It was tongue in cheek.... Geez where's the sense of humour here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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