RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 All in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Ya'all nutz. Nutz I say..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Fire EveryJuan! Edited October 30, 2018 by Real McCoy 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. Then we fire the new guys in 2020 because we don't have the fricking patience to rebuild into a contender for the long term; the millennial Bills cheer "WE WANT IT AND WE WANT IT NOW, keep firing until we get it! You must be new to the NFL! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 For better or worse, we need to give them 3 years minimum. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. My gut tells me none of this is going to work. McDermott is Dick Jauron 2.0. Beane hasn't hit on anything he’s done. And Allen is going to bust. He was a marginal talent at Wyoming and he can’t read a defense or throw accurately in the NFL. I weigh this with becoming the Cleveland Browns firing GMs and Coaches every 2 years on average since 2000. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think the defense is too good to give up on them yet. They need to make some serious headway on the offensive side of the ball next year though. We need some consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) What damage could they do "more than they have" I'll hang up and listen Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: My gut tells me none of this is going to work. McDermott is Dick Jauron 2.0. Beane hasn't hit on anything he’s done. And Allen is going to bust. He was a marginal talent at Wyoming and he can’t read a defense or throw accurately in the NFL. I weigh this with becoming the Cleveland Browns firing GMs and Coaches every 2 years on average since 2000. Wow you know that after 5 games??? Impressive. Oh and Beane has hit on a lot, you just dont want to give him credit because that would mess up your little crusade Edited October 30, 2018 by BillsEnthusiast 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. Lol.... overreact much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yep, we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I wish we could fire fans who need instant gratification. A rebuild takes more than 2 years.... Get some patience or maybe go cheer for the Pats. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: For better or worse, we need to give them 3 years minimum. Common sense tells you that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Nester said: I wish we could fire fans who need instant gratification. A rebuild takes more than 2 years.... Get some patience or maybe go cheer for the Pats. Darn millenials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: What damage could they do "more than they have" I'll hang up and listen Wow you know that after 5 games??? Impressive. Oh and Beane has hit on a lot, you just dont want to give him credit because that would mess up your little crusade Allen was far from a can’t miss, productive college player with manageable flaws coming out of school. Plenty of analysts flagged him. I don’t know for sure. But what I’ve seen so far does not lend itself to him getting it to me. I could be wrong, but Allen was a polarizing pick taken on the basis of potential, not real body of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nester said: I wish we could fire fans who need instant gratification. A rebuild takes more than 2 years.... Get some patience or maybe go cheer for the Pats. Welcome to the boards, Half these guys don't understand a rebuild if it slapped them in the face. Just fire everyone while in the middle of it all. This year was and is a wash 100% all around. Edited October 30, 2018 by Real McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: What damage could they do "more than they have" I'll hang up and listen Wow you know that after 5 games??? Impressive. Oh and Beane has hit on a lot, you just dont want to give him credit because that would mess up your little crusade That’s why I said I wrestle with firing them. I realize it’s not sustainable to fire Coaches and GMs every two years. Winning franchises don’t do that. But if your force me to look in a crystal ball, I don’t think this works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I swear, portions of this fan base deserved every minute of the drought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: That’s why I said I wrestle with firing them. I realize it’s not sustainable to fire Coaches and GMs every two years. Winning franchises don’t do that. But if your force me to look in a crystal ball, I don’t think this works out. Give it another year, that they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Come next May, when we have acquired a few weapons on offense though the draft, free agency or trades, everyone will be excited about July and training camp. Right now, pain is part of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah let's go back to.the way we've done things the past 18 years, that worked well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. Try to check your optimism. It's leading you astray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. I personally dont think you should give them the 2019 season. They do not deserve your fan loyalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Are people born little *****, or do they become little *****? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I don't think that's it at all. Theres a current ***** cycle that goes on at OBD because the blind lead the blind. We fire a guy, new guy comes in with his own system who needs his own players whereas the players currently on the team, some good with the previous coaches system, don't fit what the new coach invisons. So they are sent packing. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. If Terry actually had a clue he'd bring in a guy who would work with the previous coaches players and built on what they did well and not just send them packing because of ego and culture and incompetence. Are you serious, have you just started following this team? This team has been an organizational failure on every level since 2001, count the years. A losing culture! So now it's Pegula's fault and everyone trying to rebuild this 16 year dumpster fire of poor coaching, scouting, drafting, FA signings, and FO is incompetent? Your an incompetent fan, get a grip on reality! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Lol.... overreact much? ...fire everybody and keep churning the turnstile.....imagine the savings if we put the GM and HC names on their doors with velcro?.......not to mention that Glanville saying..."NFL...Not For Long" means their tenure?.......rent boyz, do NOT buy........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: My gut tells me none of this is going to work. McDermott is Dick Jauron 2.0. Beane hasn't hit on anything he’s done. And Allen is going to bust. He was a marginal talent at Wyoming and he can’t read a defense or throw accurately in the NFL. I weigh this with becoming the Cleveland Browns firing GMs and Coaches every 2 years on average since 2000. Your gut sits in the stands, not in the FO; if your gut is correct you need to market it and go to work in the NFL! But somehow, I don't think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 If it’s the same next year mid season then McBean has to go. No other way around it. Everyone pretty much on this forum is a hardcore fan and will always cheering for the Bills regardless but there is a lot more casual fans out there and will be hard to convince them to cheer for the team and spend money next year if we are playing like this. It’s a business after all and Terry P. Knows business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...fire everybody and keep churning the turnstile.....imagine the savings if we put the GM and HC names on their doors with velcro?.......not to mention that Glanville saying..."NFL...Not For Long" means their tenure?.......rent boyz, do NOT buy........ It is bizarre. The world's best CEOs do not continuously churn upper management to "win." S/he hires a team with a strategic plan and gives them tools to carry it out. IF that plan doesn't work out they support the team until it is no longer reasonable. Also, good administration understands "a plan" will patient to allow it to come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: I really just don't trust these guys. If we give them another year they can really do damage and set this team so far back it won't even be funny. I'm at the point where I say fire them now and bring in a new GM and coach for the 2019 season. another person with under 100 comments starting bad threads. nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: another person with under 100 comments starting bad threads. nice. Funny. Mathew Fairburn was also questioning bringing back McBeane as well. Guess he doesn't know what he's talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: It is bizarre. The world's best CEOs do not continuously churn upper management to "win." S/he hires a team with a strategic plan and gives them tools to carry it out. IF that plan doesn't work out they support the team until it is no longer reasonable. Also, good administration understands "a plan" will patient to allow it to come to fruition. ...I've worn out the comparison my friend, but do not really give a rat's azz in my 56th year of following this club...so I'm gonna do it AGAIN....and maybe even AGAIN later.....the Steelers' model....(1) non-meddling owners who hire football people to do their jobs. (2) THREE HC's in 48 years and I doubt it was based on "warm 'n fuzzy continuity" crap versus based on their abilities; (3) Colbert has been their GM since 2000 and AGAIN, I doubt it was based on "warm 'n fuzzy continuity" crap versus based on his abilities;RESULT: SIX Lombardis.......yes SIX....sounds like a damn good formula to me...hell I only want ONE before I ship off to "Hell's Kitchen" where the reception sucks and LCD's melt before halftime.....ONE is too much to ask in my advancing years??.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: My gut tells me none of this is going to work. McDermott is Dick Jauron 2.0. Beane hasn't hit on anything he’s done. And Allen is going to bust. He was a marginal talent at Wyoming and he can’t read a defense or throw accurately in the NFL. I weigh this with becoming the Cleveland Browns firing GMs and Coaches every 2 years on average since 2000. I'm going to give them Phillips so far. He looks pretty good. The rest of the team and moves are a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: No *****. Terry has been no better than Ralph. Ralph was bad and even worse in his later years. Terry is right there with him to this point. He's probably more clueless. OK Einstein, who do you want to coach the Bills and how long do you give him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, teef said: Are people born little *****, or do they become little *****? I think they're born little s**** and become bigger s***'s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 In a league designed for quick turnarounds. You absolutely shouldn’t give a regime that put together the NFLS worst offense since the 40s another year. But hey you have to wait until after year three and all the bad contracts get signed this offseason before firing McD so the cap excuse can be recycled again for your next flop at coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: In a league designed for quick turnarounds. You absolutely shouldn’t give a regime that put together the NFLS worst offense since the 40s another year. But hey you have to wait until after year three and all the bad contracts get signed this offseason before firing McD so the cap excuse can be recycled again for your next flop at coach. Well Bobby....they are gonna get it....soooooo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Well Bobby....they are gonna get it....soooooo Are they? Keep at 10 points a game and putting up a Historically disgusting offense and some more blowout losses and lets see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 If they put in the time on the offense like they have on the defense & given the fact that they will have some $90 million in cap space for FA I think there will be a noticeable change in the team ! The D isn't bad given all the rookie & second year players they are starting this year so i'm interested & willing to give them another year or more to see what they can do with another draft & the FA's they can bring in !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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