The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) This isn't a thread to crap on McBeane and/or Peterman. Genuine question. The fact that they give him so many chances means that they may see some sort of potential, real or imaginary, that we don't see. Just trying to figure out what it is. Edited October 15, 2018 by The Real Buffalo Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 He's a devout Christian 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Heard a funny comment (think it was on the radio).... Peterman must have photos of McDermott not trusting the process 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 5 Wide said: Heard a funny comment (think it was on the radio).... Peterman must have photos of McDermott not trusting the process Laughed way too hard at this. Edited October 15, 2018 by The Real Buffalo Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 He seems like a really nice guy. At this point, if SM cares about Peterman, he needs to make sure he never sees the field again. He will have no future in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Naked pictures of his wife?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: He seems like a really nice guy. At this point, if SM cares about Peterman, he needs to make sure he never sees the field again. He will have no future in the nfl. He really does. I really like Peterman. He may be good coach material some day, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, he's just doesn't have what it takes to play quarterback in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 During the Bills Training Camp show on facebook, I remember Beane raving about him. He's our "Steady Eddie". Steady for throwing picks maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, The Real Buffalo Joe said: He really does. I really like Peterman. He may be good coach material some day, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, he's just doesn't have what it takes to play quarterback in the NFL. I kinda shows how “good” Fitz is. He has a very limited arm but can at least make plays. I’ve never seen anything like NP. I do feel kinda bad for him but it’s painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Peterman has all the things this Coach fawns over: He shows up to meetings on time He studies really hard He watches tape well He does whatever he is told He is a faith based player He helps out with Lockeroom Culture He claps well He parrots McDermott’s mantras He was McDermott’s pick I think McDermott believes he got a steal when Peterman fell to the 5th Round. He is the classic snowy Buffalo Rudy Rudiger underdog story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I don't see where he's been given "so many chances". He made the team as a rookie backup & when the starter was playing horribly, the coach tried him in an attempt to shake up the offense & he failed. Then in the offseason they drafted the QB of the future and decided not to waste a fortune like Arizona did with Bradford and settled for McCarron. McCarron was bad in mini camps and preseason & they decided to cut bait. They didn't feel Allen was ready after the Cincy preseason game so the last man standing was Peterman. He started & lasted a little over a half. Then they eventually sign Anderson & have the misfortune to lose Allen one week before Anderson is ready to play. They have tried with McCarron & now Anderson to have an adequate 2nd stringer or placeholder starter to replace Peterman & got stuck with Peterman twice this season due to the 1st guy failing to be what they thought he was and the 2nd guy being a week away. Hardly "so many chances" for Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I kinda shows how “good” Fitz is. He has a very limited arm but can at least make plays. I’ve never seen anything like NP. I do feel kinda bad for him but it’s painful. Fitz has a substantially stronger arm than Nate. Fitz has an adequate NFL arm, Nate inadequate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Maybe they won't cut him because he has the keys the playbook. He was the starter and all. Not that the playbook is deep and confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Fans are uncompromising in their criticism of QBs and similarly unrestrained in their appreciation. If NP had made the correct post snap read on Joseph's pick six and made the appropriate decision to look elsewhere there were options available for a productive play, one or two that he is capable of making. Bills could credibly have gotten in field goal range and won the game. And then today some would be rehabilitating NP and cooking up a QB controversy. Hes just another raw QB who has not yet learned (and perhaps is incapable of learning) how to read a defence post snap (amongst other things) and therefore susceptible of being snookered by a quality NFL D the likes of which he never saw in college. If he can learn to do the things he needs to do there is probably a place for him in the NFL. I think he will hang around (in Blo or elsewhere) until he shows he can get it or proves that he really can't do it. Josh Allen needs to learn the exact same lessons, although if he gets there his ceiling is obviously much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: This isn't a thread to crap on McBeane and/or Peterman. Genuine question. The fact that they give him so many chances means that they may see some sort of potential, real or imaginary, that we don't see. Just trying to figure out what it is. ...ask McDermott...McBeane reports to HIM............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 He's got some talent. Unfortunately his bad is HORRENDOUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 38 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: He's a devout Christian Unfortunately this is seriously it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I think its stubbornness. McD has an ego and wants to be right. When he benched Tyrord last year he took a lot of slack. He is bent on proving people right and refuses to close the door on that. Its time to cut the cord and let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Fans are uncompromising in their criticism of QBs and similarly unrestrained in their appreciation. If NP had made the correct post snap read on Joseph's pick six and made the appropriate decision to look elsewhere there were options available for a productive play, one or two that he is capable of making. Bills could credibly have gotten in field goal range and won the game. And then today some would be rehabilitating NP and cooking up a QB controversy. Hes just another raw QB who has not yet learned (and perhaps is incapable of learning) how to read a defence post snap (amongst other things) and therefore susceptible of being snookered by a quality NFL D the likes of which he never saw in college. If he can learn to do the things he needs to do there is probably a place for him in the NFL. I think he will hang around (in Blo or elsewhere) until he shows he can get it or proves that he really can't do it. Josh Allen needs to learn the exact same lessons, although if he gets there his ceiling is obviously much higher. Please stop. Peterman is the worst QB in the history of the NFL and that is not hyperbole. How many times does he need to through that out route for a pick 6/ have it dropped by a defender for what should be a pick 6 before he learns that one? The guy has no business being in the league. He has the Christian faith and he is apparently good in the film room and that is it. He has a garbage arm and folds under the pressure of a real game. Edited October 15, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: Fans are uncompromising in their criticism of QBs and similarly unrestrained in their appreciation. If NP had made the correct post snap read on Joseph's pick six and made the appropriate decision to look elsewhere there were options available for a productive play, one or two that he is capable of making. Bills could credibly have gotten in field goal range and won the game. And then today some would be rehabilitating NP and cooking up a QB controversy. Hes just another raw QB who has not yet learned (and perhaps is incapable of learning) how to read a defence post snap (amongst other things) and therefore susceptible of being snookered by a quality NFL D the likes of which he never saw in college. If he can learn to do the things he needs to do there is probably a place for him in the NFL. I think he will hang around (in Blo or elsewhere) until he shows he can get it or proves that he really can't do it. Josh Allen needs to learn the exact same lessons, although if he gets there his ceiling is obviously much higher. Normally, I'd be with you. But given the guy's track record--he literally throws a pick every 11 throws--11! (one in 11, think about that ridiculous stat for a second)--he's not cut out for this game. To answer the OPs question, I have no idea. But I would say a majority of this fan board at the end of preseason--you know who you are--was in favor of starting him over Allen and McCarron, the majority of which is now decrying McD's decision making. (For the record, I don't blame anyone for thinking Clipboardman was the better choice, it's just astonishing that we didn't bring in or keep a veteran presence until now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 My guess is he looks great in a practice setting. Works hard, perfect teammate. Simply panics when the live bullets fly. He is basically a rookie out there and has been overwhelmed in his spot performances. Hard to rebuild his confidence at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, 12Kachy said: Maybe they won't cut him because he has the keys the playbook. He was the starter and all. Not that the playbook is deep and confusing. More of a play sticky note than an actual book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Please stop. Peterman is the worst QB in the history of the NFL and that is not hyperbole. How many times does he need to through that out route for a pick 6/ have it dropped by a defender for what should be a pick 6 before he learns that one? The guy has no business being in the league. He has the Christian faith and he is good in the film room and that is it. He has a garbage are and folds under the pressure of a real game. Well I do understand that to be the consensus of opinion. I'm not there yet. And maybe all that proves is my lack of football acumen. We will see how matters develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, starrymessenger said: Well I do understand that to be the consensus of opinion. I'm not there yet. And maybe all that proves is my lack of football acumen. We will see how matters develop. He throws a pick every 8.2 attempts. The pick 6 yesterday might be the most telegraphed pass and easiest pick 6 to win a game there has ever been in the NFL. It is more than opinion. They could pull someone off the street who has never played football, stick him in there and when he fails, you would say we need more time to evaluate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Nate reminds me of George Plimpton - a regular guy masquerading as a NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Well I do understand that to be the consensus of opinion. I'm not there yet. And maybe all that proves is my lack of football acumen. We will see how matters develop. We all need to look at the tape before we make rash opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He seems like a really nice guy. At this point, if SM cares about Peterman, he needs to make sure he never sees the field again. He will have no future in the nfl. McDermott likes the guy so much he's willing to just leave him on the roster so he can make is $600k this year. I bet he is on the roster until his rookie deal is over. Just McDermott looking out for a guy who trust's the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: This isn't a thread to crap on McBeane and/or Peterman. Genuine question. The fact that they give him so many chances means that they may see some sort of potential, real or imaginary, that we don't see. Just trying to figure out what it is. He's the only option they have, it's that simple. But, there's no doubt he was the clear-cut best QB through the off-season, and it's head scratching to see how badly he's played in live action. McDermott will find another option I have no doubt in that, but when he does that is the bigger question. Off topic a bit, but I don't care how much Josh struggles, I still think he's going to prove me wrong and turn out great. Keep playing him if he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Did anyone think that the game would end differently when he took the field? Lost all faith in him and I bet the team has as well. Suit up Anderson up and let Nate fade off to obscurity knowing he holds some dubious NFL records that will likely keep his name popping up in conversations among NFL commentators for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 i have very real worries about our offensive talent evaluation. Other than Dion Dawkins, there isn't a single player contributing on offense that they brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: He throws a pick every 8.2 attempts. The pick 6 yesterday might be the most telegraphed pass and easiest pick 6 to win a game there has ever been in the NFL. It is more than opinion. They could pull someone off the street who has never played football, stick him in there and when he fails, you would say we need more time to evaluate him. I doubt that I would say we needed more time to evaluate someone who never played football. I totally agree with you that the pass in question was terrible execution that showed an inability to make, in this case, appropriate post snap reads. It would be hard to cook up a worse play call in the circumstances or imagine worse execution. But inexperienced QBs will do that. Occasionally even good ones do. I don't blame anyone for saying that NP should be drop kicked out of the NFL. You only get so many opportunities and he continues to make the same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, uticaclub said: i have very real worries about our offensive talent evaluation. Other than Dion Dawkins, there isn't a single player contributing on offense that they brought in. Zay Jones has been getting praise from Joe B., of late. Joe B. thinks he is turning into a decent receiver. I think if we had a true #1 receiver, Jones could end up being an excellent slot receiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I'm without a clue as to what they see in pick 6 Peterman, but that loss was clearly on both of them http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/pollock-this-buffalo-loss-rests-with-beane-and-mcdermott/article_27be431c-d032-11e8-b469-f3e393d6fbd4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 He is probably lights out in practice and meeting room. Just can't handle the pressure during game time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I don't see where he's been given "so many chances". He made the team as a rookie backup & when the starter was playing horribly, the coach tried him in an attempt to shake up the offense & he failed. Then in the offseason they drafted the QB of the future and decided not to waste a fortune like Arizona did with Bradford and settled for McCarron. McCarron was bad in mini camps and preseason & they decided to cut bait. They didn't feel Allen was ready after the Cincy preseason game so the last man standing was Peterman. He started & lasted a little over a half. Then they eventually sign Anderson & have the misfortune to lose Allen one week before Anderson is ready to play. They have tried with McCarron & now Anderson to have an adequate 2nd stringer or placeholder starter to replace Peterman & got stuck with Peterman twice this season due to the 1st guy failing to be what they thought he was and the 2nd guy being a week away. Hardly "so many chances" for Peterman. When you completely muff three entire games, then that’s more than enough. His career should have been over before yesterday, but he played, and once again we saw what happened. He’s had more than enough chances in this league. Does anybody really ever want to see him in a game again? Is there still some weird, give him another shot contingent on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said: He's the only option they have, it's that simple. But, there's no doubt he was the clear-cut best QB through the off-season, and it's head scratching to see how badly he's played in live action. McDermott will find another option I have no doubt in that, but when he does that is the bigger question. Off topic a bit, but I don't care how much Josh struggles, I still think he's going to prove me wrong and turn out great. Keep playing him if he's healthy. No. There are and were so many other options. Its on them for not making the right choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Please , for God's sake, dropkick Nate into Lake Erie and run, don't walk, to sign Landry Jones. Jones is so much better than Nate (of course, anyone is better than Nate), it ain't funny. Does anyone want to attend a game with Nate at QB. He is positively painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: This isn't a thread to crap on McBeane and/or Peterman. Genuine question. The fact that they give him so many chances means that they may see some sort of potential, real or imaginary, that we don't see. Just trying to figure out what it is. Well i think Nate is a true "off the field" professional and McBeane loves that character trait. They've spent countless hours tutoring him and giving him practice reps, film room study, preseason games, etc.. They finally saw a glimpse of what they thought he could be when he led the Bills down, threw a great TD pass and gave the Bills a 13-10 lead. So i can see why it's hard to cut the guy until the 3rd QB (DA) in the building is up to speed and shows in practice that he can complete some passes. Once that happens I think Nate is released, and I cannot imagine another team signing him based on the flaws he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Zay Jones has been getting praise from Joe B., of late. Joe B. thinks he is turning into a decent receiver. I think if we had a true #1 receiver, Jones could end up being an excellent slot receiver. Zay has looked good running routes this year, he's been open and made an amazing catch TD staying in bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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