What Do Young People Think When We Post About 90's Bills Teams

[US Egg]

"What Do Young People Think When We Post About 90's Bills Teams".....

 

.....that we'd shut up. Because they heard us the 1st 100,000x someone reminisced about them here. 

Edited October 12, 2018 by I am the egg man

[Lurker]

Young people don't waste their time with the Bills.   The NFL's got a real demographic problem on their hands, IMO...

[row_33]

10 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

"What Do Young People Think When We Post About 90's Bills Teams".....

 

.....that we'd shut up. Because they heard us the 1st 1000x someone reminisced about them here. 

 

it's so sad, young fans will have nothing worth remembering for all the decades they put into watching the Bills

 

[Fadingpain]

3 hours ago, Seasons1992 said:

They honestly don't know what we're talking about. Unless you lived through it, there's no other era in Bills history that was as magical. They've honestly been a terrible franchise outside of two AFL titles in the mid 60's, one good year in 1980, 1988-1996, 1998-1999. 13 seasons out of 58.

Always finding the silver lining!

Bingo!

 

This franchise has been among the worst in N. American major league sports since the merger.

 

With really the only magical time being the Super Bowl teams and the time during their rise to power.  I would end the era with our 4th Superbowl, though the success did linger a bit longer than that.

 

The rest has been very missable, including our AFC East title in 1980 (remember it well; had a t-shirt commemorating that at the time) and so on.

 

I feel sorry for young Bills fans who have suffered through the crap, but never got to taste the champagne.  Well, almost got to taste the champagne.

 

 

[McBean]

Best Bills team I’ve ever seen was last year.

 

I’ve never watched a real QB play for us yet.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

28 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Young people don't waste their time with the Bills.   The NFL's got a real demographic problem on their hands, IMO...

 

True fact (well perhaps not fact- sure mirror what I see).  Millennials more often In my experience are into the nfl peripheries; draft kings, fantasy; red zone; 

 

Also- sporting events are becoming so unaffordable... I looked into taking the fam to ravens or skins when bills are in town. It’s a mortgage payment 

 

i see less ‘team’ alligeince  coming up. My kids gravitate toward players over teams. 

Edited October 12, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[row_33]

one thing i've noticed is that young people really don't like old farts summarizing them all up in a single downcast sentence

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Just now, row_33 said:

one thing i've noticed is that young people really don't like old farts summarizing them all up in a single downcast sentence

 

 

 

Yes- they are all way too unique. 

 

By by the way what’s the demark for old fart? 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

4 hours ago, Irv said:

When I was younger (before the internet) and people talked about guys like Cookie Gilchrist, Albert Dubenion, Jack Kemp, etc. I used to roll my eyes thinking "what a bunch of geezers!".  I wonder if the younger kids on this site do the same when there are posts about Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, and Thurman Thomas.  Am I that old guy now?

Am totally guilty of that too (see my 9/15 OP topic below) and in a lot of ways I still feel stuck in that era as a Bills fan <sigh>. But in our defense as 90's era geezers, what exactly has the franchise given us since then in the way of good memories replacement???

On Eve of Allen’s First Start, What is Your Favorite Memory of Jim Kelly?
By NoHuddleKelly12, September 15 in The Stadium Wall 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

41 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

you have 70 more years to cheer for the Bills, bound to be something in there

 

we used to actually pay attention to the game to watch football, the TV didn't show the score or the time left or the quarter or the players stats or Gus Frerrotte's fantasy achievements endlessly scrolling along the bottom of the screen, or 100 other game scores constantly rolling by

 

when your significant other asked how much time is left in that stupid game you would say "5 more minutes" and she'd accept that and come back 30 minutes later, now she can tell how much time remains

 

 

 

 

I can do without most of what you mentioned, but watching a game without at least a scoreboard showing the basics (score, time, down) would be frustrating as hell.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

28 minutes ago, McBean said:

Best Bills team I’ve ever seen was last year.

 

I’ve never watched a real QB play for us yet.

My heart goes out to you. No, really! 

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said:

 

Hey, they had a little somethin' for everybody.

I'd bring my binoculars in the upper deck to get a closer look at "the football game."

 

And now we are reduced to not being allowed to have nice things as a franchise. 

[papazoid]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said:

 

Hey, they had a little somethin' for everybody.

I'd bring my binoculars in the upper deck to get a closer look at "the football game."

 

 

INflate-gate

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

In my experience, younger kids seem to dig the 90s Bills colors and "look."  

Count in this 40 year old too on that 

[Doc Brown]

35 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Young people don't waste their time with the Bills.   The NFL's got a real demographic problem on their hands, IMO...

I think you're right, but that won't take shape for at least another 25 years as the majority of males over 30 are still hooked to the NFL.

[row_33]

what's the problem, you got your playoff game last year, that oughta hold you at least until 2040

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

It's one of the many reasons I don't ever want a new stadium.

The old, classic memories, players, and stories will forever swirl around that place (as long as it's standing).

The place where the greatest comeback in playoff (let alone regular season) NFL history, against the Houston Oilers (another relocated franchise for you young pups) occurred, should be placed on the registry of national parks as a landmark not permitted to be disturbed.

[row_33]

18 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

The place where the greatest comeback in playoff (let alone regular season) NFL history, against the Houston Oilers (another relocated franchise for you young pups) occurred, should be placed on the registry of national parks as a landmark not permitted to be disturbed.

 

just wished Bills fans cared enough to have sold out that game so older people at the time could have watched it on TV in the Buffalo area

 

 

[Augie]

26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Yes- they are all way too unique. 

 

By by the way what’s the demark for old fart? 

 

 

It’s a moving target, but it seems to reside somewhere between me and @plenzmd1. 

 

Or at least, that’s what I’m led to believe. 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

just wished Bills fans cared enough to have sold out that game so older people at the time could have watched it on TV in the Buffalo area

 

 

My dad watched it on an illegal satalite feed at a bar (that's still open last I checked, so it will remain nameless) that his reletive owned. He left at the half, and went to visit my grandfather at the nursing home after the first half ended. Listened to it on the radio. Finally said "I love ya dad, but I gotta go." My grandpa was okay with him leaving, and would have went too, had he been in good health. Got to the bar just in time for overtime.

 

He always tells me. "It's a weird thing. The stadium didn't sell out, and there seemed to be plenty of empty seats at half time. The stadium only held 80,000 at the time. but I've met 100,000 people who said they were there. And not one of them left or gave up."

[Tcali]

1 hour ago, DCBongo said:

I'm 46, I became a fan during the consecutive 2-14 seasons in the early 80's.

after ralph got rid of chuck knox

[nucci]

3 hours ago, The Jerk said:

So you're telling me the Bills not only went to the Superbowl, but did it four years in a row?

 

and lost all 4!!

[Tcali]

3 hours ago, The Jerk said:

So you're telling me the Bills not only went to the Superbowl, but did it four years in a row?

 

the californians!!....duuuuude

[Talley56]

Back in the day when making the playoffs meant “cool, now let’s see how far we can make it” instead of “HOLY COW, THE BILLS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS.  IT’S A NEW YEARS MIRACLE.  ANDY DALTON IS MY HERO”.

[Best Player Available]

Hey, who has an issue with Cookie Gilchrist story's? 

Like he once said to a Patriot players huddled around a linebacker who he crushed on the way too the endzone.

Which one of you M^#%*+~^"_S is next? lol.

[Tcali]

1 minute ago, Best Player Available said:

Hey, who has an issue with Cookie Gilchrist story's? 

Like he once said to a Patriot players huddled around a linebacker who he crushed on the way too the endzone.

Which one of you M^#%*+~^"_S is next? lol.

Old Cookie...speeding down Jefferson Ave in his cadillac..4 broads in the car

[nucci]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

just wished Bills fans cared enough to have sold out that game so older people at the time could have watched it on TV in the Buffalo area

 

 

it was very close to a sellout...over 75,000 people there. More than the Stadium holds now. We cared enough...there was a 72 hour blackout rule back then

[TDO'Kearney]

I'm 50 and I start to talk about Joe Ferguson, Joe Cribbs, Jerry Butler, and the Bermuda Triangle defense and I see people's eyes glaze over and they start looking at their phones 5 words in.  

 

I've learned to just shut up about it, except on internet forums.

[MJS]

I'm a young guy and do not remember the 90's Bills, but I know all about them and have watched games and highlights from that time. There hasn't been an era of football to talk about since then.

[dwight in philly]

Who cares. 

[Lurker]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I think you're right, but that won't take shape for at least another 25 years as the majority of males over 30 are still hooked to the NFL.

 

Don't look now, but it may be a lot sooner than that...

 

"Millennials, whom we define as ages 20 to 35 in 2016, numbered 71 million, and Boomers (ages 52 to 70) numbered 74 million.   Millennials are expected to overtake Boomers in population in 2019 as their numbers swell to 73 million and Boomers decline to 72 million."

 

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, Irv said:

When I was younger (before the internet) and people talked about guys like Cookie Gilchrist, Albert Dubenion, Jack Kemp, etc. I used to roll my eyes thinking "what a bunch of geezers!".  I wonder if the younger kids on this site do the same when there are posts about Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, and Thurman Thomas.  Am I that old guy now?

 

As a Geezer who knew, watched and loved our ‘60s teams, I both resent and represent that remark. If anything is truly lost on millennials, it’s their seeming unwillingness to learn and accept history. Punkazz whippersnappers! #GetOffMyLawn!

[without a drought]

3 hours ago, TDO'Kearney said:

I'm 50 and I start to talk about Joe Ferguson, Joe Cribbs, Jerry Butler, and the Bermuda Triangle defense and I see people's eyes glaze over and they start looking at their phones 5 words in.  

 

I've learned to just shut up about it, except on internet forums.

Don't feel bad, their eyes were glazing over and we're looking at their phones before you even uttered a sound.

[Ol Dirty B]

6 hours ago, McBean said:

Best Bills team I’ve ever seen was last year.

 

I’ve never watched a real QB play for us yet.

 

The 2014 team was better than last years team but that's another discussion. A pointless one too.

 

I'm in that weird age regarding the Bills where I don't remember any superbowls, superbowl 30 is the first I remember. I remember going to games, I saw them beat Montana as a Chief. I remember the Bruuuuce cheers and asking my dad why are they booing Bruce lol. So to me, hearing older fans talk about it, as my dad does, often, isn't annoying at all. I like their perspectives on those teams.

 

What I don't like hearing about is Polian.

 

I don't think older fans reminiscing about those teams is annoying at all. It really is the Bills history. Pre-market stuff is kind of interesting, but the game was even more different then than the 90s.

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

The 2014 team was better than last years team but that's another discussion. A pointless one too.

 

I'm in that weird age regarding the Bills where I don't remember any superbowls, superbowl 30 is the first I remember. I remember going to games, I saw them beat Montana as a Chief. I remember the Bruuuuce cheers and asking my dad why are they booing Bruce lol. So to me, hearing older fans talk about it, as my dad does, often, isn't annoying at all. I like their perspectives on those teams.

 

 What I don't like hearing about is Polian.

 

I don't think older fans reminiscing about those teams is annoying at all. It really is the Bills history. Pre-market stuff is kind of interesting, but the game was even more different then than the 90s.

 

I’m curious, why don’t you like hearing about Polian? He was the brains behind the operation. Not the guy you see on TV today.

 

Kind of the opposite of Gruden who was not good as a coach, but better on TV.  (Poor Raiders fans...) 

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, McBean said:

Best Bills team I’ve ever seen was last year.

 

I’ve never watched a real QB play for us yet.

2014?  Are you ten years old?

[Victory Formation]

I'm 31, I think many of you here are much older than me. My first Bills game was our 1st Super Bowl, it was like injecting a shot of heroin. Seeing my Dad who was usually angry and pissed off then laughing and singing songs and pretty much seeing my entire family having the time of their lives, it was great man, priceless memories to me. It was a long time ago but it's why I became a Bills fan in the first place, I want the young Bills fans today to get to experience the same euphoria I did as a kid, the 90s was a hell of an introduction to this team for me.

[Ol Dirty B]

20 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m curious, why don’t you like hearing about Polian? He was the brains behind the operation. Not the guy you see on TV today.

 

Kind of the opposite of Gruden who was not good as a coach, but better on TV.  (Poor Raiders fans...) 

 

You're probably right, his TV work undoubtedly influences my opinion of him.

 

It's just that the game, in my opinion has passed him by, which is fair. He's retired, on TV, but hearing his takes and people saying Polian would have done this or that. It's just a bit much to me. He gets a lot of credit for lucking into two great QBs.

 

I think he did an amazing job here, not so much in Indy. As I write this I realize what he accomplished in Buffalo, Carolina, and Indy. Maybe I'm a bit unfair to him.

8 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I'm 31, I think many of you here are much older than me. My first Bills game was our 1st Super Bowl, it was like injecting a shot of heroin. Seeing my Dad who was usually angry and pissed off then laughing and singing songs and pretty much seeing my entire family having the time of their lives, it was great man, priceless memories to me. It was a long time ago but it's why I became a Bills fan in the first place, I want the young Bills fans today to get to experience the same euphoria I did as a kid, the 90s was a hell of an introduction to this team for me.

 

I'm so confused about your first superbowl memory, your dad who was usually angry and pissed off was laughing and singing songs? I'm not doubting it, just seems like a weird turn of events. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by Ol Dirty B

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

You're probably right, his TV work undoubtedly influences my opinion of him.

 

It's just that the game, in my opinion has passed him by, which is fair. He's retired, on TV, but hearing his takes and people saying Polian would have done this or that. It's just a bit much to me. He gets a lot of credit for locking into two great QBs.

 

I think he did an amazing job here, not so much in Indy. As I write this I realize what he accomplished in Buffalo, Carolina, and Indy. Maybe I'm a bit unfair to him.

 

Carolina may have, in fact, been his most amazing accomplishment. NFC Championship game for a second year franchise team? That’s crazy stuff! He was the real deal, in the day. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by Augie

[NoSaint]

10 hours ago, CamDMC said:

23 years old here. When I hear people talk about the good days I get sad thinking that I have no memory of a good Bills team.

 

 

This here is the weird dynamic of it all. 

 

Theres a cutoff somewhere around a late 80s birth year where it transitions from knowing one of the greatest runs in football history to only knowing one of the worst.

 

its not old guys reminiscing for the very good while the pretty good is right in front of them. It’s all time great vs all time bad and a near instant change that ended up long sustained 

13 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I'm 31, I think many of you here are much older than me. My first Bills game was our 1st Super Bowl, it was like injecting a shot of heroin. Seeing my Dad who was usually angry and pissed off then laughing and singing songs and pretty much seeing my entire family having the time of their lives, it was great man, priceless memories to me. It was a long time ago but it's why I became a Bills fan in the first place, I want the young Bills fans today to get to experience the same euphoria I did as a kid, the 90s was a hell of an introduction to this team for me.

 

Afc championship maybe? As mentioned - seems weird otherwise 

[Ol Dirty B]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

 

This here is the weird dynamic of it all. 

 

Theres a cutoff somewhere around a late 80s birth year where it transitions from knowing one of the greatest runs in football history to only knowing one of the worst.

 

its not old guys reminiscing for the very good while the pretty good is right in front of them. It’s all time great vs all time bad and a near instant change that ended up long sustained 

 

You couldn't be more right. I was born in 89, my memory goes back to pretty much right after the superbowls. People respected the team. I remember it being an expectation we'd make the playoffs. I remember the shock of how bad Todd Collins was and how quickly they moved on. 

 

People thought they could go to the superbowl in 2000. The 31-0 victory over the Pat's and subsequent loss of the same score to them, and 2004 vs Pittsburgh really has defined the last 18 years.

 

You get some hope, then it crushes you, and oddly enough the building up of hope makes it all the more painful. But you're point is spot on, it went from amazing to just a joke in the blink of an eye.