Bills reportedly unlikely to trade McCoy and plan to keep him through 2019

[Watkins90]

5 minutes ago, zevo said:

I think if we lose this weekend this trade goes down.

Yeah. It would be really hard for the Bills to trade him sitting at 3-3 if we beat the Texans. 

[Forward Progress]

If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

[PIZ]

3 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:

If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

 

If that's the case, will he even play this Sunday?

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Clement told Eagles GM he didn't need to add RB 

 

Clement told reporters after Thursday's 34-13 blowout divisional win over the New York Giantsthat he told Roseman before the tilt that Philly didn't need to add a back.

"This game was definitely a test for us, to see do we need to get somebody," Clement said, via Les Bowen of the Philly Daily News. "I talked to Howie before the game -- you have to have confidence in our room ... We don't need to look on the outside, we know what we have on our team ... I definitely told him that. He said, 'Make me believe that we don't need a back.' "

 

Edited October 12, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan

[PetermansRedemption]

4 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:

If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

I doubt they would risk injury for him to play in one more game. If anything the Bills aren’t ready to pull the trigger on the deal pending the result of Sunday’s game. As has been previously stated, tough to trade him if he has a good game and the Bills are sitting at 3-3. 

[PetermansRedemption]

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

Clement told Eagles GM he didn't need to add RB 

 

 

Shocking, a career backup to this point in his career doesn’t want to lose his chance at the starting gig. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Just now, Bills2ref said:

 

Shocking, a career backup to this point in his career doesn’t want to lose his chance at the starting gig. 

 

I made mention of the Iggles just winning was enough to hold off the rumors for at least a week  

 

Eagles look unstoppable again

 

Saquon Barkley exploded for a breakout performance Thursday night, but Carson Wentz and the Eagles flew high in a 34-13 win on the road. Read all the key takeaways from Philadelphia's win.

LOL   It's a week to week league 

[Solomon Grundy]

7 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:

If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

There is absolutely no way that Shady would play in Sunday's game if a deal was done already. 

[dave mcbride]

18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Clement told Eagles GM he didn't need to add RB 

 

Clement told reporters after Thursday's 34-13 blowout divisional win over the New York Giantsthat he told Roseman before the tilt that Philly didn't need to add a back.

"This game was definitely a test for us, to see do we need to get somebody," Clement said, via Les Bowen of the Philly Daily News. "I talked to Howie before the game -- you have to have confidence in our room ... We don't need to look on the outside, we know what we have on our team ... I definitely told him that. He said, 'Make me believe that we don't need a back.' "

 

Thanks - good, informative link.

I thought the Eagles' backs last night looked quite solid.

[Chuck Wagon]

"We averaged 3.24 ypc against a team that quit in the second half, we totally don't need more RBs here".

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Trade Shay for Foles strait up and release Anderson and Peterman. Let Allen learn under Foles for 2 years,  Foles can come in and help us maybe make a playoff push.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Trade Shay for Foles strait up and release Anderson and Peterman. Let Allen learn under Foles for 2 years,  Foles can come in and help us maybe make a playoff push.

 

Not going to happen.  Foles is the Eagles' insurance policy.

Edited October 12, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Chuck Wagon]

16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Not going to happen.  Foles is the Eagles insurance policy.

 

 

Not to mention he looked like last year was complete lightning in a bottle that had run out earlier this year.

 

Foles with our offensive structure would be a tire fire.

[John from Riverside]

On 10/9/2018 at 10:17 AM, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

Everyone on here saying Peters please just stop.  We are not trading for a 36 year old tackle who would probably rather retire than come back to Buffalo.

Jason Peters is not coming back to Buffalo...not gonna happen.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, McBean said:

 

Put the crack pipe down and stop thinking short term.

 

Long term benefit is trading shady and getting something for him. We aren’t going anywhere this season. We have a historic awful offense.

 

Imagine this offense on the road in the playoffs against KC. Seriously?

 

TRADE MCCOY

I don’t feel the long term benifit of getting a mid round pick will out weigh anything. You aren’t going to get a pick high enough to help so just keep him and use him for the next 3 years.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

This defense is going to be very good very soon. With Foles you know if you put talent around him that he can make use of it. Those passes he was making in the playoffs and super bowl were pinpoint accurate. I would trade them Shady and a 3rd rd pick for Foles and let Allen develop for 2 years. It's obvious they want Shady back very badly, getting  Foles would be the only way I would make the trade.

[PetermansRedemption]

16 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This defense is going to be very good very soon. With Foles you know if you put talent around him that he can make use of it. Those passes he was making in the playoffs and super bowl were pinpoint accurate. I would trade them Shady and a 3rd rd pick for Foles and let Allen develop for 2 years. It's obvious they want Shady back very badly, getting  Foles would be the only way I would make the trade.

If he did it in the playoffs, what happened this year? And every year prior to his miraculous playoff run? It seems far more likely that Foles miraculous end of season and playoff run was just that, a miracle. He looked bad to average in the preseason and regular season. Which is pretty much how he has looked his entire career.  

[gobills1212]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Not going to happen.  Foles is the Eagles' insurance policy.

And a scary number of Bills fans wet dream...even still oddly

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, gobills1212 said:

And a scary number of Bills fans wet dream...even still oddly

 

Foles runs hot and cold. He certainly shouldn't be looked upon as a long term option to  fill the QB position on a long term basis.

[gobills1212]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Foles runs hot and cold. He certainly shouldn't be looked upon as a long term option to  fill the QB position on a long term basis.

Right, but ive just never seen anything like it. Even after the last 8 months a small group of people here STILL want this guy. Its taking on cult status the same way the Pats sign all our caucasian WR and how we LOVE  to bring back former players who are bums. I just dont get it

[Chuck Wagon]

14 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

Right, but ive just never seen anything like it. Even after the last 8 months a small group of people here STILL want this guy. Its taking on cult status the same way the Pats sign all our caucasian WR and how we LOVE  to bring back former players who are bums. I just dont get it

 

 

A fair amount of posters exposure to the NFL is watching whoever the Bills are playing while hammered and catching the occasional prime time game.  You can see it in the Mahomes threads, people have hard line stances on him without ever watching him play.  It wouldn't surprise me if several of the strongly pro Foles people have seen him play 3 games total in his career.

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

 

Shocking, a career backup to this point in his career doesn’t want to lose his chance at the starting gig. 

Career backup? He’s only in his second year ?

[PetermansRedemption]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Career backup? He’s only in his second year ?

Has he been a backup to this point in his NFL career? ?

Edited October 12, 2018 by Bills2ref

[FistingBot]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I don’t feel the long term benifit of getting a mid round pick will out weigh anything. You aren’t going to get a pick high enough to help so just keep him and use him for the next 3 years.

 

Yeah, it sends a strong message to veterans on this team that we don't care about winning if we trade Shady now. We've had a rough season, but we're still 2-3, so it isn't completely out of the question to make another playoff run. Also, we can easily trade Shady in the offseason for a mid-round pick or two if we want. It doesn't have to be now.

[wppete]

No trade yet? 

[ricojes]

42 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

Has he been a backup to this point in his NFL career? ?

Allen was a career backup heading into week 2, so.....

[JM57]

23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Murphy played in the first 3 games.  He was questionable with a rib vs GB and is questionable with a rib this week, so while not listed on the injury report vs Texas I think it's likely he was not quite 100%, maybe suffered a setback in practice or something.  Or maybe, healthy enough to run but not healthy enough to block the way the backs were asked to vs Tenn.

 

He caught his one target vs Minn.   I don't know what to make of any receiving stats for the Ravens or LAC games - I'd have to see how many targets were actually catchable.

 

 

You'd be a great drinking buddy for Beane.  The goal of the NFL is to win football games, not to lose while stocking the most mediocre draft picks.

 

I'm not sure Beane knows this.

I'm not sure Beane knows how to evaluate offensive talent so he better have as many kicks at the can as possible.

[Fadingpain]

Come on Beane!  

Get 'er done! 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

13 minutes ago, JM57 said:

I'm not sure Beane knows how to evaluate offensive talent so he better have as many kicks at the can as possible.

 

You're not thinking this through....

[PetermansRedemption]

1 hour ago, ricojes said:

Allen was a career backup heading into week 2, so.....

My main point was, what RB, regardless of skill level, is going to go to their GM and say “yes you have to replace me”. What’s Clement said would be expected even if he was the worst back in the league. 

[PIZ]

4 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

 

Shocking, a career backup to this point in his career doesn’t want to lose his chance at the starting gig. 

 

11 rushes for 43 yards.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am going to be livid if we trade Shady, but if this is where it’s going...I want a WR back. Get a pick and get Agholor. Get a WR that can be on this team for the next 5 years or don’t bother.

 

Iggles look like a different passing team with Jeffrey back giving them the 1-2 punch of Agholor and Jeffrey.  If they trade for Shady it's because they think he's the missing piece that nets them a winning season.  You don't get that by playing a zero sum game, trading away something else.

 

 

[zevo]

4 hours ago, Forward Progress said:

If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

Of there is an agreement, he doesn’t play 

[ColoradoBills]

35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Iggles look like a different passing team with Jeffrey back giving them the 1-2 punch of Agholor and Jeffrey.  If they trade for Shady it's because they think he's the missing piece that nets them a winning season.  You don't get that by playing a zero sum game, trading away something else.

 

 

 

Ertz too.

 

I don't want Shady to leave but I think he is exactly what the Eagles need to push for another SB.

His running/receiving out of the back field would force opposing Ds to defend the entire field.

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

28 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Ertz too.

 

I don't want Shady to leave but I think he is exactly what the Eagles need to push for another SB.

His running/receiving out of the back field would force opposing Ds to defend the entire field.

 

 

I'm sure he would help the Eagles team contend and that acquiring him would be in the Eagles' interests.

 

I'm just not sure what trade they'd be willing to offer would be in the Bills interests for this season.  Certainly not a 4th or 5th round pick.

[YodaMan79]

53 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Ertz too.

 

I don't want Shady to leave but I think he is exactly what the Eagles need to push for another SB.

His running/receiving out of the back field would force opposing Ds to defend the entire field.

 

 

 

Everyone is forgetting what Clement did in the Superbowl.  100+ receiving yards, as a rookie.  He deserves a shot at 15+ carries.  I think he fits the offense of Philadelphia better at this stage, he hits a hole and goes.  The OL isn't good enough right now for a dancer.  I wouldn't be surprised if no move at RB is made for Philadelphia.

[ColoradoBills]

18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm sure he would help the Eagles team contend and that acquiring him would be in the Eagles' interests.

 

I'm just not sure what trade they'd be willing to offer would be in the Bills interests for this season.  Certainly not a 4th or 5th round pick.

 

Pretty sure the Bills are asking for more than they will give up.

I would consider a 2nd if I was PHI.  Shady could also play well next year, he may even be willing to redo a contract to reduce a little cap for

some guaranteed 2019 money.  Despite what some say, Shady got some tread left.

Heck they got Sproles on the team this year and he is 35.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Pretty sure the Bills are asking for more than they will give up.

I would consider a 2nd if I was PHI.  Shady could also play well next year, he may even be willing to redo a contract to reduce a little cap for

some guaranteed 2019 money.  Despite what some say, Shady got some tread left.

Heck they got Sproles on the team this year and he is 35.

 

One point is folks talk about Shady costing $9M, but it needs to be considered that's his cap hit.

His salary is $6M this year and next.  The Iggles have $10.4M in cap space right now.

 

Just to be clear, I do not want Shady to be traded, but for a 2nd and 3rd or the like I suppose Beane would have to consider it.

[ColoradoBills]

8 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

Everyone is forgetting what Clement did in the Superbowl.  100+ receiving yards, as a rookie.  He deserves a shot at 15+ carries.  I think he fits the offense of Philadelphia better at this stage, he hits a hole and goes.  The OL isn't good enough right now for a dancer.  I wouldn't be surprised if no move at RB is made for Philadelphia.

 

He could be the future as you say.  A Shady/Clement one two punch would be something.

Shady who loves the Eagles would bring a lot of passion to the O.

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

One point is folks talk about Shady costing $9M, but it needs to be considered that's his cap hit.

His salary is $6M this year and next.  The Iggles have $10.4M in cap space right now.

 

Just to be clear, I do not want Shady to be traded, but for a 2nd and 3rd or the like I suppose Beane would have to consider it.

 

Same with me.

[JM57]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You're not thinking this through....

Sure I am. Unless Allen suddenly becomes a league average passer, this team isn't winning many games. Not every offense is as weak as the Titans. 13-12 isn't going to happen every week. The Packers game is more like what will happen most weeks. 

 

With or without McCoy, that doesn't change. The rest of the offense is abhorrent. This isn't a winning team, it is a rebuilding team. Rebuilding teams take assets for players before they have no value.