RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 If i had four thumbs I’d give this post four thumbs down 11 7 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 There is much wrong with this post. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 what O linemen and WRs do we take. Benjamin is terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Draft a back up QB? Do I have this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. I think you get Allen guys who can block and receivers that can create separation and he will be just fine. The players around him suck bad, his #1 receiver would not even pass for and #4 WR receiver. No time to pass and when he has time receivers are to freaking slow to get open. Edited September 30, 2018 by Niagara Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: If i had four thumbs I’d give this post four thumbs down It's so bad it's almost worth having a few extra thumbs grafted on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Whelp, time to go drink bleach 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 how many idiots do we have on this forum? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: what O linemen and WRs do we take. Benjamin is terrible I'm thinking we take an O-lineman in the 2nd, after taking a DL in the 1st. I think we get WR help in FA. This is not a "Allen sucks" thread. Apparently reading comprehension is lost on some..... Unless Peterman should be our backup, and we shouldn't get insurance against Allen not progressing. I look at it as a RG3/Cousins type of play, albeit over 2 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. Already got a franchise QB, no need to draft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: how many idiots do we have on this forum? donno. apparently a lot who lack basic reading comprehension. Just now, pop gun said: Already got a franchise QB, no need to draft one. Just now, pop gun said: Already got a franchise QB, no need to draft one. we do? wishing we have one is not the same as having one. we also have no backup. I'd prefer a backup and Allen insurance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 No QB. Build up Allen's supporting cast that he so desperately needs to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I think you get Allen guys who can block and receivers that can create separation and he will be just fine. The players around him suck bad, his #1 receiver would not even pass for and #4 WR receiver. No time to pass and when he has time receivers are to freaking slow to get open. again, not an "Allen sucks" thread!!! I didn't put up names that will be available in the 1-2 round range. We should take DT/OL in those rounds. I want a young, good backup. Allen will get injured (all QB's do), and if he does not progress we have a backup. Really that simple. If you prefer a vet, throw out a Vet name. 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No QB. Build up Allen's supporting cast that he so desperately needs to succeed. then what Vet? Unless you want Peterman as the backup. ! Yikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: how many idiots do we have on this forum? I'm up to about 35 on ignore. I could see it going past 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I don't think we should be afraid to draft another QB if Allen doesn't look like he's developing. That said, you don't take one just to take one. It has to be a guy you believe in. But the idea that Allen needs at least two years before you know is antiquated thinking IMO. Sometimes you can just tell a kid probably isn't going to get there. 15 games might not be enough to say one way or another. We'll have a better idea after the season, but we shouldn't be closing our minds to options just because we hope we might have our guy. That's bad decision making 101. Edited September 30, 2018 by VW82 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Draft a back up QB? Do I have this right? you got it. Draft a QB in rounds 2-3 or 4 who can potentially be a starter. Not enamored by Peterman or any of the vets. (unless Saints somehow don't sign Bridgewater) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: again, not an "Allen sucks" thread!!! I didn't put up names that will be available in the 1-2 round range. We should take DT/OL in those rounds. I want a young, good backup. Allen will get injured (all QB's do), and if he does not progress we have a backup. Really that simple. If you prefer a vet, throw out a Vet name. then what Vet? Unless you want Peterman as the backup. ! Yikes. Matt Moore or another decent vet. Peterman would be cut if I were the guy making decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: donno. apparently a lot who lack basic reading comprehension. we do? wishing we have one is not the same as having one. we also have no backup. I'd prefer a backup and Allen insurance. There are so many holes to fill on this roster backup QB is probably last on the list. Disagree if you want but to think McBean is going to waste any pick on a backup QB is just idiotic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, VW82 said: I don't think we should be afraid to draft another QB if Allen doesn't look like he's developing. That said, you don't take one just to take one. It has to be a guy you believe in. But the idea that Allen needs at least two years is antiquated IMO. Sometimes you can just tell a kid probably isn't going to get there. 15 games might not be enough to say one way or another. We'll have a better idea after the season. We shouldn't be closing our minds to options just because we hope we might have our guy. THIS. I hope Allen is the guy. If not, or if we don't know, I'm all for drafting a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I think there is some talent in that range next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Let the new regime figure out what qb to draft. Not a good showing for Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, pop gun said: There are so many holes to fill on this roster backup QB is probably last on the list. Disagree if you want but to think McBean is going to waste any pick on a backup QB is just idiotic. I don't disagree, he hopefully finds a vet that can play. Ideally Bridgewater. Or Matt Moore even. Or Landry Jones. But if Allen looks ?? at the end of the year, and a guy those in my list are available, you grab him. The "we can't grab a QB" thinking is how we pass on a guy like Russel Wilson for a WR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: THIS. I hope Allen is the guy. If not, or if we don't know, I'm all for drafting a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I think there is some talent in that range next year. There are scenarios where it may be in our best interest to take a guy in the first round, or even first overall if that's our fate. We don't know yet, and that's the point. This will all become more obvious after the season when we have better information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Whichever is best at blocking or receiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellaman101 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Remember back when your were a kid and tasted your pee for the first time... Yesterday right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Who cares ? Why is this a thing today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Can't keep doing this kind of crap week to week. Allen is a work in progress and this is not the last Sunday he's going to have a brutal game. It's part of his growth and for better or worse, we must stay the course and keep expectations to slow growth and improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 This is the 2nd worst thread I’ve ever seen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Because you started it I'll play. Trace McSorely or Will Grier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said: This is the 2nd worst thread I’ve ever seen. What was the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) Allen’s fine. When we finally get off our bums and give the kid some lineman and reciever help he’ll be just what the doctor ordered. Can take a hit and plays with a serious fire in his belly. I like what I see from the rook. Edited September 30, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 If Allen played like this for the rest of the season, start a thread then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. Wow. Go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I'm thinking we take an O-lineman in the 2nd, after taking a DL in the 1st. I think we get WR help in FA. This is not a "Allen sucks" thread. Apparently reading comprehension is lost on some..... Unless Peterman should be our backup, and we shouldn't get insurance against Allen not progressing. I look at it as a RG3/Cousins type of play, albeit over 2 drafts. Based on all our needs, I'm thinking we'd be better of signing a journeyman QB as a back up who could also help develop Allen and save our draft picks on building potential staters instead of wasting one on another nube quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Brett Rypien, Malik Rosier, -maybe Tyree Jackson????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, #34fan said: Brett Rypien, Malik Rosier, -maybe Tyree Jackson????? No, no, no, and no to everyone you’ve ever wanted us to draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What was the first? Orton on the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: No, no, no, and no to everyone you’ve ever wanted us to draft Yah, -heaven forbid we got anybody good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. I want to keep drafting QB's with the first pick until we get it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: For those who say "we have bigger needs," or "let Allen have 2 years" I tend to agree. Therefore, who/what QB would you take in Rd. 2 or 3 that might be there. My guys in that area are: Trace McSorley from PSU. Accurate ball placement, athletic and a gamer. Almost a shorter, more accurate Josh Allen. Will Geyer, WVA. 80% completion percentage so far this year. Ryan Finley (NC State). and Clayton Thornson (Northwestern) Those of you who watch more college football than I (which isn't very hard), please feel free to chime in on your round 2-3 QB pick. Doesn't have to be a guy to "challenge" Allen, but a good backup/someone who could be a starter. I don't care how good or bad Allen turns out to be, baring the unlikely you're going to give the 7th overall pick two plus full seasons. Maybe by Nov 2020 if there's no improvement in his play, you'd bench him and consider moving on, though in most cases you change OC's first as the thinking is typically that was the problem. So how much do you think this a rookie will learn sitting on the bench for two seasons potentially learning from a person who turns out to be no good. I think they will bring in a vet backup for next season. Drafting a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round, plus Allen, and a vet, you're now forced to take up 3 roster spots on a position that may only see the starter ever play all season. So to sum it up terrible idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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