IDBillzFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: If Josh Allen played like Rosen did tonight half this board would be in a nuclear meltdown wanting everyone fired...Arizona is probably going to do just that tomorrow In his best Chandler Bing voice: "Uhhhh, have you been here lately??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Just wait for Josh Allen week one next year bro. “He hasn’t started 16 games yet, he’s still a rookie.” I live for it I remember when that was used for Tyrod as well. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: BPA would have been Roquan Smith. Who is very good, but basically equivalent to Tremaine Edmunds, who we acquired as well. We made the right move given the circumstances and options at the time. I dont mind at all that we drafted Allen. This was a good year to take a shot at a QB and not have to sell the farm. Imagine if we moved up for Allen and gave up something crazy. If Allen busts it would not set us that far back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: One of the biggest reasons I didn't want Rosen was his attitude. I didn't think coming from a rich family/southern CA lifestyle would mix well in Buffalo. His mannerisms last night when things weren't going his way came off kind of like a Jay Cutler, just kind of pissy, and I believe that stems from his upbringing. Allen is much more humble and down to earth, more "Blue collar" so to speak. That may not mean anything in terms of if he will ever be a good qb, but I am happy with our pick of Allen over Rosen, Allen may take longer to get to a final product of a "franchise qb" but he is a perfect fit for Buffalo and he has all the potential in the world. I just hope he learns quick, because Buffalo fans are VERY IMPATIENT Rosen had a ton of red flags at UCLA and I'm not going to go into all of them, I think most of the fans know he has some attitude issues and some durability issues. He's a better pure passer and more accurate than Allen but I don't think he'll be in the league nearly as long. Josh Allen just has a lot of stuff to clean up in his game and this may take three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Broncos Dominate Against Turnover-Plagued Cardinals Embattled Cardinals offensive coordinator Mike McCoy can't be pleased with how the game started -- or ended -- with Arizona calling a time out just two plays in. From there, Rosen flung a pass that was tipped by Denver's Derek Wolfe into the waiting arms of linebacker Todd Davis, who rumbled 20 yards for the pick-six just 59 seconds into the affair. McCoy was seeing ghosts after Rosen subsequently whipped a late first-quarter toss into the hands of Chris Harris, Jr., who soared 53 yards for another Denver defensive score. That play saw J.J. Nelson stop on his route, a decision that cost the Cardinals early. There's nothing wrong with Rosen's arm -- or his potential. His ugly box score (21-of-39 passing for 194 yards with one TD and the three picks) was partly the result of a broken-down scheme and plenty of punishment, with the rookie visiting the medical tent after being slammed helmet-first into the turf on a second-down sack by Shaquil Barrett before the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: I dont mind at all that we drafted Allen. This was a good year to take a shot at a QB and not have to sell the farm. Imagine if we moved up for Allen and gave up something crazy. If Allen busts it would not set us that far back. Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I remember when that was used for Tyrod as well. Good times. You mean 8 year veteran Tahrod Taylor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: You mean 8 year veteran Tahrod Taylor? He hadn’t started 16 games! He was still technically a rookie bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. Lol...you silly bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Von Miller is something else! I can't remember who it was, but someone on TSW claimed before the season that he was no longer an impact player and said he should be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I'm pretty sure there are certain folks tied to analytics that based on said criteria massively preferred Rosen to Allen. Last night's game is not dispositive, but it surely shows that nearly all rookie qbs struggle, especially when they start under less than optimum conditions. The moral ought to be, have more patience and give a fella time to develop before making definitive pronouncements on how someone will turn out. Let's see if anyone takes that to heart. i'd go further and say that the moral is: folks tied to analytics usually have no idea how statistics actually works. especially the self-professed experts. and i've got the stats to prove it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps I. Thou shalt not point out Josh Rosen's glaring deficiencies. II. Thou shalt only point out Josh Allen's glaring deficiencies. III. Thou shalt criticize the front office for taking Josh Allen instead of Josh Rosen. IV. Thou shalt not attempt to reconcile these seemingly disparate commandments, especially when comparing the nearly identical output of the two QBs. Now, I only need 6 more. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. If you are going to include Sammy then you have to include that we got a 2nd rounder as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Jeez, a 14 page thread (so far) on Rosen. Imagine that?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Magox said: If you are going to include Sammy then you have to include that we got a 2nd rounder as well. That's literally what I did. The 2nd rounder we used in the trade cost us Sammy. The trade to 7 cost us pick 12 (which cost us pick 21, Pick 158, and Cordy Glenn), pick 53, and pick 56 (which cost us pick 195 and Sammy, but got us 1 year of EJ Gaines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, GG said: Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps Tiny hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I think Rosen and all the other rookie QBs will eventually become long term starters in the league. None of them necessarily great HOF types, but all will be solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Imagine how low it would have been if all those DB's didn't drop those passes thrown right into their hands. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: For today’s grammar lesson, it’s ‘should’ve ‘ not ‘should of’. Should’ve is a contraction for should have. I ‘m really starting to worry about the quality of education in this country. To be honest I really don't care about how you feel about my grammar or the education level of the country. Stay on topic. Edited October 19, 2018 by Lfod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 9/30/2018 at 7:41 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Strong debut for the rookie QB in a loss to SEA. On 9/30/2018 at 10:20 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: What we learned so far from Sunday's Week 4 games 3. Don't get caught up in the box score when looking at Cardinals rookie quarterback Josh Rosen's first career start. Rosen completed 15 of 27 passes for 180 yards and a touchdown with some impressive throws, but his receiving corps didn't help out a lot early in the game. Wide receivers Christian Kirk, Larry Fitzgerald and J.J. Nelson all dropped passes, and Fitzgerald experienced a very uncharacteristic two drops in the first half. Rosen had perfect ball placement on deep passes to Kirk and Nelson, only to see the ball squirt away. Nelson, in particular, dropped a pass that should have set the Cardinals up with a first-and-goal at about the 5-yard line. Nevertheless, Rosen showed poise throughout the game to overcome the drops and led the team late in the fourth quarter to the game-tying score with a laser 22-yard strike to wide receiver Chad Williams. Given his arm strength and ability to shake off early adversity, the Cardinals rookie's future looks bright. -- Herbie Teope On 10/1/2018 at 2:28 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Where were all of the comments after the 1st start of his career? It was pretty silent in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where were all of the comments after the 1st start of his career? It was pretty silent in here. First game, with no game tape for defenders to study on. As an aside, did Ledyard give Allen a pass for Holmes & Zay dropsies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, GG said: First game, with no game tape for defenders to study on. As an aside, did Ledyard give Allen a pass for Holmes & Zay dropsies? How about his OL had Iupati and Pugh at Guard to give him some time in the pocket. This is really all about a reflexive defense mechanism by fans to protect Allen. Edited October 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I can't lay claim to this one. OC McCoy fired. Courtesy of Gugny: "McCoy got Rosened!" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Can we change the title to the Rosen fanboy thread ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where were all of the comments after the 1st start of his career? It was pretty silent in here. Rosen has yet to have a good game. And his most recent game was so bad only Peterman has been worse and it got his OC Fired. But please, people keep on going about how we should have drafted Rosen. His career isnt yet determined, but geezus he’s been bad so far. He would kill to have a game like Allen did against Minnesota. And Rosen has a better weapons to work with too around him. Really sick of hearing about Rosen...we drafted Allen, and it’s too early to tell who will be better, but I liked Allen more on draft night and still like him more now and to me he has shown more so far too. Go Bills...Rosen can go eat a bag of d***s cuz he isn’t a Buffalo Bill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How about his OL had Iupati and Pugh at Guard to give him some time in the pocket. This is really all about a reflexive defense mechanism by fans to protect Allen. And defensive mechanisms to bash Allen by some to protect opinions of other guys they preferred????? What everyone should know, anyone that is objective about things, are that: 1. All rookie QBS tend to struggle, even the ones that turn out to be great HOF types. Aikman himself last night talked about how much he struggled as a rookie. 2. As much as folks talk about how it's all having a QB in the league, you have to have other parts such as a functional offensive line and decent receivers. Rookies who are already struggling to adjust to the NFL game have even more trouble doing so when the rest of the team around them is lacking in ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Rosen has yet to have a good game. And his most recent game was so bad only Peterman has been worse and it got his OC Fired. But please, people keep on going about how we should have drafted Rosen. His career isnt yet determined, but geezus he’s been bad so far. He would kill to have a game like Allen did against Minnesota. And Rosen has a better weapons to work with too around him. Really sick of hearing about Rosen...we drafted Allen, and it’s too early to tell who will be better, but I liked Allen more on draft night and still like him more now and to me he has shown more so far too. Go Bills...Rosen can go eat a bag of d***s cuz he isn’t a Buffalo Bill. To the contrary, his 1st game was very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How about his OL had Iupati and Pugh at Guard to give him some time in the pocket. Ledyard wasted no time with a I Told You So analyses on Rosen's decent performance and Allen's bad performance, didn't he? Yet, just like there's concern that we haven't seen much improvement so far from the most raw 1st round QB, I'd be much more concerned in AZ that the most pro-ready QB in the draft has gotten progressively worse as the defense study up on him. Yesterday was very Peterman worthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: To the contrary, his 1st game was very good. 180 yards 1 td ? What was the good part ? Edited October 19, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GG said: Ledyard wasted no time with a I Told You So analyses on Rosen's decent performance and Allen's bad performance, didn't he? Yet, just like there's concern that we haven't seen much improvement so far from the most raw 1st round QB, I'd be much more concerned in AZ that the most pro-ready QB in the draft has gotten progressively worse as the defense study up on him. Yesterday was very Peterman worthy. Feel better now? 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: 180 yards 1 td ? Whay was the good part ? Don't box score scout. Look at the cut ups of what he did in the game. He passed for about 240 yards last week, but he wasn't as good as in the 1st start. Stat lines don't tell everything. Edited October 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Von Miller is something else! I can't remember who it was, but someone on TSW claimed before the season that he was no longer an impact player and said he should be traded. Probably the same guy that said we should have drafted Rozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Feel better now? Yes I do feel better after hearing that Bills made a monumental mistake in passing over Rosen to draft Allen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Probably the same guy that said we should have drafted Rozen. Great point. 5 minutes ago, GG said: Yes I do feel better after hearing that Bills made a monumental mistake in passing over Rosen to draft Allen It shouldn't. No QB was going to look good palying behind that line against Denver last night. Allen is on his own path irrespective of what's happening with Rosen, Mayfield, and Darnold. Edited October 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It shouldn't. No QB was going to look good palying behind that line against Denver last night. Allen is on his own path irrespective of what's happening with Rosen, Mayfield, and Darnold. Does this mean you will never again link a story on this site about a player that has absolutely no connection to the Buffalo Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, GG said: Does this mean you will never again link a story on this site about a player that has absolutely no connection to the Buffalo Bills? Of course it doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I was wondering if 26 was a Rosen fan I guess I’ve got my proof RosenPick6 14 minutes ago, GG said: Does this mean you will never again link a story on this site about a player that has absolutely no connection to the Buffalo Bills? Oh god let it be so!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, CuddyDark said: Rosen's issue all along. He played with a superior Oline and still got injured and made bad reads. What happens when he doesn't have that Oline? He sees the rush. I remember during the injury debate with Rosen I said Allen probably gets hurt 1st, and look at that. Both players won't survive in the NFL. Allen thinks he's a running back. Has to protect his body better. 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: That's because you staked out a position at the draft and you're unwilling or unable to come off that position for ANY purpose. Oh I'll definitely come off that position as soon as Josh Allen anticipates a throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 When are the mods going to see what a troll this guy is ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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