fridge Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 McDermott is really between a rock and a hard place here. Granted, it’s entirely his fault, but it’s worth noting that his choice isn’t between Nate Peterman and John Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, No Place To Hyde said: Honestly, I brought this up on another thread, but the offense just looked dead with Peterman. Once Allen came in they showed SOME signs of a pulse. I'm wondering if they guys just feel like they can't and won't win with Nate, so they are just going through motions when he's there. Not a case of looking bad on purpose, and not that they looked like All Pros with Allen. But the wrong guy in that spot can take the wind out of a team right from the get go. I don’t think it looked much different with Allen to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, No Place To Hyde said: Honestly, I brought this up on another thread, but the offense just looked dead with Peterman. Once Allen came in they showed SOME signs of a pulse. I'm wondering if they guys just feel like they can't and won't win with Nate, so they are just going through motions when he's there. Not a case of looking bad on purpose, and not that they looked like All Pros with Allen. But the wrong guy in that spot can take the wind out of a team right from the get go. I can see it. This is why I think Allen will probably be named starter (or at least hope). McDermott has said multiple times he relies on his leaders/vets. With the way things were going yesterday on offense, I would be surprised if in these meetings, these vets don't express concerns with Peterman running the offense. I think going with Nate could lead to losing trust from the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KGun12TD Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Me: Thank God I didn't buy the DirectTV package this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Don't think McBeane make it to next year if they go 0-16. Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I think it's the right decision TBH. Allen isn't ready. LOL, well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JPP Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, fridge said: McDermott is really between a rock and a hard place here. Granted, it’s entirely his fault, but it’s worth noting that his choice isn’t between Nate Peterman and John Elway. should of been between peterman and AJM....oh well...hopefully the fascination with petey at OBD ends now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I can see it. This is why I think Allen will probably be named starter (or at least hope). McDermott has said multiple times he relies on his leaders/vets. With the way things were going yesterday on offense, I would be surprised if in these meetings, these vets don't express concerns with Peterman running the offense. I think going with Nate could lead to losing trust from the locker room. If McD names Peterman he loses the trust of the locker room. The media. The fan base. It would literally be the beginning of the end of his Buffalo tenure...and no I'm not overestimating. What should happen is a Trent Edwards repeat where the opening day starter is cut soon after opening day. Literally anyone can be brought in to be Allens back up with zero drop off. If they like Nate, want to give him a job on the practice squad running the scout team, then whatever. He just never needs to be in a uniform on game day again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Decisions like this will make one pull out their hair. I'm glad I got it over with and shaved my head before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 on the fire the coach bandwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Time to bring in a Norweigan raft and fire up the pire.... Gonna needs pillage those Irishmen again till the learn their lesson. They can’t rule the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie's Kickers Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Edited September 10, 2018 by Christie's Kickers No gif pMultiple gif posted above (The Office "Nooooo") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 To be honest, I would still start Peterman this week but keep him on a short leash. If the offense doesn't improve and we have to put Allen in to replace an innefective Peterman then you stick with Allen for the rest of the season and hope he can survive the pounding he will take behind our OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ctk232 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Start Peterman the rest of the season, this is not a team I would want Allen developing behind. I can't imagine he will develop strong habits and NFL skills by playing behind this OL, and with this group of WRs who provide no opportunity for rhythm throws, tempo drives, or just giving him any options to move the ball. Can't see a franchise QB coming out of that dumpster fire. That being said, I honestly think we stand a better chance of winning with Allen in the game as teams haven't really planned for him. But Peterman wasn't even given a chance - we all know what happened with the OL, but to compound the issue, no receivers were creating separation in their routes and creating windows for anyone to throw. When they did, the turnstile of an OL gave Peterman 2 seconds to read and release before feeling pressure. There was one point, I need to go look at the tape because it was all such a blur time wise, but it was 3rd and 4 and we were facing a four man rush. We literally outnumbered the amount of pass rushers sent during the entire play with no added spy or rush support, and another drive ended before it even began. I honestly couldn't care less who McD starts in the end, but I'd prefer keeping Allen off the field as much as possible until we fix our line play on both sides of the ball. Until we do, we won't have much to cheer for each weekend. Every team build should begin with the trenches (imho), sure you need skill players to score, but this is what happens when you neglect key foundations to each side of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Fine with it. Other than a couple runs Josh's day yesterday was similar to Nate's. QB change won't fix this team in the short run. yeah, just two fewer interceptions, actually scoring points and not going a whole half without a first down. Other than that, similar. 6 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Start Peterman the rest of the season, this is not a team I would want Allen developing behind. I can't imagine he will develop strong habits and NFL skills by playing behind this OL, and with this group of WRs who provide no opportunity for rhythm throws, tempo drives, or just giving him any options to move the ball. Can't see a franchise QB coming out of that dumpster fire. That being said, I honestly think we stand a better chance of winning with Allen in the game as teams haven't really planned for him. But Peterman wasn't even given a chance - we all know what happened with the OL, but to compound the issue, no receivers were creating separation in their routes and creating windows for anyone to throw. When they did, the turnstile of an OL gave Peterman 2 seconds to read and release before feeling pressure. There was one point, I need to go look at the tape because it was all such a blur time wise, but it was 3rd and 4 and we were facing a four man rush. We literally outnumbered the amount of pass rushers sent during the entire play with no added spy or rush support, and another drive ended before it even began. I honestly couldn't care less who McD starts in the end, but I'd prefer keeping Allen off the field as much as possible until we fix our line play on both sides of the ball. Until we do, we won't have much to cheer for each weekend. Every team build should begin with the trenches (imho), sure you need skill players to score, but this is what happens when you neglect key foundations to each side of the ball. so, if we don't fix our lines next year? sit him again? when does he start in your mind? 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I don't think it will really make any difference. Allen isn't ready and Peterman is terrible. The rest of the offense appears even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: yeah, just two fewer interceptions, actually scoring points and not going a whole half without a first down. Other than that, similar. so, if we don't fix our lines next year? sit him again? when does he start in your mind? 2021? Play him this year, or next, like I said, I believe he gives us the better chance to win of the two QBs on the roster. But what can you really expect him to learn and recognize as routine in this league when our OL is playing at a point that it doesn't exactly matter who we start? All for letting him get his feet wet this year, but right now you still have to consider the environment he'd be learning within. But hey, if we want a Russell Wilson/Brett Favre play style of throwing on the run most every play, then just cut him loose. It'll be nothing if not more entertaining than the alternative. Edited September 10, 2018 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McDermott can't seem to shake his infatuation for Peterman. He must have noodz or something he doesn't want released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Why are people typing so much in this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 They need to play Allen. He has to have the mental make up to take a beating while still remaining confident and learn. Allen at least made some plays yesterday and should have had a TD that Benjamin dropped. I would rather see Allen make his mistakes now when the rest of the team looks awful as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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