GreggTX Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 You're too young to remember Dan Darraugh and the time Ed Rutkowski (SE) had to fill in as our "emergency QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, ngbills said: He also already owns two records in only 3 starts: Start 1 - most int's in a half. Start 3 - Bills worst season opening loss. In 1 game today Nate gave us two gifts for the price of one! Our worst opening day beat down in franchise history and our 2nd worst beat down of any type in franchise history! Thanks Nate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: In 1 game today Nate gave us two gifts for the price of one! Our worst opening day beat down in franchise history and our 2nd worst beat down of any type in franchise history! Thanks Nate! Came into the league to break records. Found out it's really easy as long as you're not too concerned about which records they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I look at it this way. If the bills cut peterman today he is not getting picked up by any other team in the nfl. His nfl career is likely done. However there’s still a chance he is our starter next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 hours ago, bobobonators said: I want someone to tell me how Favre and Manning also had rough starts to their careers. Favre went 0-4 with 2 picks and a sack for his first year in Atlanta. I think it was Glanville who talked about a plane crash reauired before he’d put him in at QB and he had a medical condition in his hip that was seen at giving him no hope of playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: He's become a joke, but McDermott is to blame. The poor kid was fed alive to great defenses and his other start there was 20 feet of snow. ...and he stinks too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Bump. * There's a footnote to the Peterman fans - He's better than a guy who once beat out Brady* So, hope is eternal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 10 hours ago, pimp on da' net said: AJM was not anything special... that is a push, imo. No. PETERMAN is something special! He’s specially bad! You can’t tell me that McCarron’s stats match Peterman’s. They don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: If those guys would have gotten 3 starts they would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Stupid fans said EJ Manuel was the worst qb they have ever seen. Guess what, preseason football is completely meaningless. I’m sure Nate is a a great guy but he doesn’t belong on a nfl roster. I don’t if any other QB in the league could have been as bad as him. If McDermott cares about Peterman, he should bench him so he even has a chance to make a roster in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Let's not forget that he had the Bills on track to becoming the third team ever and the second since 1966 to earn zero 1st downs in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: So he is the worst QB since 2001 to start more than one game. That is on him for being bad and on the coaches for putting him out there. All three of these guys had only one start and were also out of the league in 1-2 years. Edited September 10, 2018 by ngbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Stupid fans said EJ Manuel was the worst qb they have ever seen. Guess what, preseason football is completely meaningless. I’m sure Nate is a a great guy but he doesn’t belong on a nfl roster. I don’t if any other QB in the league could have been as bad as him. If McDermott cares about Peterman, he should bench him so he even has a chance to make a roster in the future. preseason is meaningless only if you have already proven you belong on the field in regular season, Tom Brady doesn't need to prove anything in preseason raw undeveloped players have to get some kind of confidence going in preseason, it doesn't magically snap into being for Week 1 on the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Stupid fans said EJ Manuel was the worst qb they have ever seen. Guess what, preseason football is completely meaningless. I’m sure Nate is a a great guy but he doesn’t belong on a nfl roster. I don’t if any other QB in the league could have been as bad as him. If McDermott cares about Peterman, he should bench him so he even has a chance to make a roster in the future. Well there is new blood in the NFL. EJ is now the second worst QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Let's not forget that he had the Bills on track to becoming the third team ever and the second since 1966 to earn zero 1st downs in a game. with 5 seconds on the clock for the first half they desperately tried to squeak out a first down instead of taking the knee or shooting the works... let me know when that happens every again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 From last year: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-bills-nathan-peterman-stats-tyrod-taylor-chargers-interceptions And now this year: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/09/09/buffalo-bills-make-ravens-history-bad-way/1249963002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: I think one more game wouldn’t hurt. We aren’t going anywhere in 2018. If that's the case, better off starting the Josh Allen era this week. He will learn nothing by watching a JV QB struggle under center...McBean has really f'd up this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Playing Peterman was virtually unprecedented. Since 1971, only one QB with less starting experience had started the opener over a rookie who had been drafted in the top 10. That was Doug Pederson, who started ahead of Donovan McNabb. But at least Pederson had five years and 21 games of NFL experience under his belt. They have to start Allen now. I don’t know what McDermott will do. He drafted Peterman in the fifth round and took a lot of heat in the national media for starting him over Tyrod Taylor with his team at 5-4 last season. He wanted to stick with Peterman and probably would have if Peterman hadn’t laid such a colossal egg at the Chargers. McDermott thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. I suspect he wanted to show the world he was right about Peterman. When Peterman put up good numbers in the preseason competition, he had his justification for starting him over Allen. This was the result. He’s just stubborn enough to stick with Peterman. It would be a bad decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He is just not a NFL caliber Qb. Preseason vs vanilla defense and sub NFL talent is not the same as faces a team schematiclly designed to attack your weaknesses. Allen is, was and always should have been the guy when he replaced Aj McCarron at Cleveland. The offense should have had 3 weeks of molding to Allen's strengths and preparation for a tough first month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: But he has made some good decisions. Still need to look at the tape. Great Baltimore D. Yada yada yada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yes! I knew there was some way to slice and dice the stats to wind up with Peterman where he belongs - at the very bottom of the list. This one wasn’t even that hard, since no one as terrible as Peterman in his first start gets a second start. That’s why the minimum 50 passes is key. And he “passed” Brian Brohm in doing so. That makes it even sweeter. Nate Peterman, Worst QB Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yes! I knew there was some way to slice and dice the stats to wind up with Peterman where he belongs - at the very bottom of the list. This one wasn’t even that hard, since no one as terrible as Peterman in his first start gets a second start. That’s why the minimum 50 passes is key. And he “passed” Brian Brohm in doing so. That makes it even sweeter. Nate Peterman, Worst QB Ever. As someone else said - You always want to strive to be the best at something. He is the best at being awful in record breaking fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wayne Cubed Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Bills are winning with the most QBs on the list!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 9:04 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: Stupid fans said EJ Manuel was the worst qb they have ever seen. Guess what, preseason football is completely meaningless. I’m sure Nate is a a great guy but he doesn’t belong on a nfl roster. I don’t if any other QB in the league could have been as bad as him. If McDermott cares about Peterman, he should bench him so he even has a chance to make a roster in the future. Well, to be fair to NP (I am not a fan btw), he is still on an NFL roster right now. EJ is sitting on his couch waiting for phone calls which may never come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 ANY/A is, in my opinion, a pretty good indicator of a QB's performance. Here is every QB who has attempted at least 65 passes from 1998-2018 sorted by descending ANY/A Here is the same list, sorted ascending... There are 241 qualifying QBs. He is the only one with a negative score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 9:10 PM, pimp on da' net said: AJM was not anything special... that is a push, imo. I'll take not anything special over especially bad. Peterman is rewriting the history books on worst quarterback to keep getting the umpteenth chance to start in the NFL. Like we didn't even invest much in him why are we clinging onto him like he's a no 1 overall pick rather than a 5th rounder we took a flyer on. It's like Beane is thinking "this 5th round pick has to be good my job is on the line if he doesn't pan out. My God we set ourselves back for years to get this guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 9:53 PM, Dr.Sack said: I’m all for playing him next week to prove to himself that he can be an NFL QB. I am totally a Peterman hater but at this point I’d like to see him have some success for his own sake. I truly feel bad for this guy. He’s had 2 games in horrible conditions & another where Bosa & the Chargers destroyed him on the road. Give the kid a home start in favorable conditions & maybe he can save face. I honestly believe this is all he's capable of. He's not a real NFL talent, he lacks the physical and mental ability to play at this level. It's not his fault he sucks, he has no business playing in the NFL and the coaches are to blame for putting a replacement level player out there and trying to feed it to us that he belongs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: Well, to be fair to NP (I am not a fan btw), he is still on an NFL roster right now. EJ is sitting on his couch waiting for phone calls which may never come. EJ is a complete upgrade over Peterman and he’s great in the locker room. He got cut after throwing 3 tds. It will never happen but I would much rather have EJ than Peterman. Think about that. of course, it won’t happen because Whaley drafter EJ and this regime drafted NP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: EJ is a complete upgrade over Peterman and he’s great in the locker room. He got cut after throwing 3 tds against players now bagging groceries. It will never happen but I would much rather have EJ than Peterman. Think about that. of course, it won’t happen because Whaley drafter EJ and this regime drafted NP. Clarified those 3 TDS. But I don't disagree with you that EJ is an upgrade over the kind of play we ve gotten out of Peterman.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, prissythecat said: Clarified those 3 TDS. But I don't disagree with you that EJ is an upgrade over the kind of play we ve gotten out of Peterman.. EJ played against the “starters” and the Raiders traded a 5th for AJ who had to “rally” against the grocery baggers’ backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) I felt the same way about EJ as Peterman. He was not good enough. I do agree that EJ would be an upgrade. It is that sad. I would have been pissed if they signed Fitz and he was starting over Allen. But at least he is capable. Instead we are going with a guy that just has no business being on the field. Edited September 11, 2018 by ngbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) On 9/9/2018 at 8:52 PM, ngbills said: Has any QB had a worse start to their career? He has three starts and all under 100 yds passing. Basically all under 50% passing. 7 picks in 42 passes. Has there ever been a worse three starts? 6-14, , 66 yds, 0, td, 5 int 5-10, 57 yds, 1 td, 0 int 5-18, 24 yds, 0 td, 2 int ....sorry, but this one stands alone......a .7 QBR ?......72 FEET of passing?.......priceless Twitter rant: " I walked to the 7-11 at halftime and had more total yards than the Bills"....OUCH.. Edited September 11, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sorry, but this one stands alone......a .7 QBR ?......72 FEET of passing?.......priceless Twitter rant: " I walked to the 7-11 at halftime and had more total yards than the Bills"....OUCH.. Will Peterman's stats improve if we count the yards after each interception in his production? Seems like we should give him credit for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 6:53 PM, Dr.Sack said: I’m all for playing him next week to prove to himself that he can be an NFL QB. I am totally a Peterman hater but at this point I’d like to see him have some success for his own sake. I truly feel bad for this guy. He’s had 2 games in horrible conditions & another where Bosa & the Chargers destroyed him on the road. Give the kid a home start in favorable conditions & maybe he can save face. I'm kind of in this boat as well. Peterman's #1 problem is that he's just not that good. But at the same time is he really this bad? Historically bad? Chargers don't have Bosa this week and the game is in Buffalo and not likely to be a blizzard. Got to think he can at least muster a normal bad game by NFL standards. I know a lot of people don't want to see Peterman start but I am okay with it for two more weeks. Let Allen start @ Green Bay after we get through the Purple People Eaters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Peterman's #1 problem is that he's just not that good. But at the same time is he really this bad? Historically bad? Yes - his stats place him at the bottom of the list over the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 8:03 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Maybe. But at least he gets sacked and fumbles a lot. Good one. Made me sad to read it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I’m starting to believe the blizzard may of helped Peterman out. The game was pretty slow that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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