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Will McBeane be able to find a stud #1WR that fits the process(*future, not referring to this season*)?


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I'm already thinking ahead to the future and not worrying too much about what happens this season because we obviously still have some glaring holes.  Number 1 is WR and I think everybody would agree on that.  Part of me is nervous though if there will be any truly elite WR's that will also fit the personality traits McDermott and Beane stress.  I say that because WR's are the biggest divas in the entire NFL, even the majority of the greats at that position.  I know there are some exceptions but this is one position where I really hope we don't get scared off from trying to draft a highly skilled receiver if he doesn't fit the criteria 100%...with Allen's arm and a legit deep threat that could be dangerous!  Has anybody else given this any thought or familiar with what big time receiver's are coming out of the draft next year and if you think they will be an ok fit here personality wise(not a huge college football guy so I'm not familiar with any of them at the moment)

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I actually think KB will be good if he can get some support. I think a fast speedster and a big pass catching TE could be what we need. This offense is based on creating mismatches. We need different type receivers to create those matchups. 

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3 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

Resign KB next year, and draft someone in the 1st.

We need to see whether we think KB is a #1 receiver when the season is over.   He looked good in the first preseason game, but, if he is hurt again.....reminds me of Sammy Watkins v2.0  as he missed a lot of games in Carolina.  Performance, duribility, chemistry...all play into determining if Bills will give KB the 16-18 mil a season it might take to retain him.  Sammy got 54 over 3 years in KC I think.  As for drafting a wr as #1, most can't play that well the first year.  AJ Green and JJones in Atlanta being notible recent exceptions to that rule.  By all means, pickup another AJ Green type....he was #4 or 5 the year we took Darius.

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KB needs to stay healthy.

 

i absolutely expect us to draft a wr high or pay a free agent.  I think we pay KB if he stays healthy. Whether or not we pay another WR or draft another high depends on the development of Zay, Coleman and ray ray.  You never know.  This current stable of WRs COULD be our until next year too

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now that beane has made the move for Colemen we gotta see how this group this year works out.....

 

If by chance the group of KB, Colemen, Zay, a guy like Kerley makes contributions I would like to see one more offensive threat and then invest heavily into offensive linemen this next year.......

 

but as always.....we can spend as much as we want....ultimate success will depend on how well we draft

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I could see the Bills taking a run at the kid at UB or the Ole Miss kid. Those guys have high ceilings. They are probably going to bring back Benjamin but he’s not a good #1 IMO. If you could add a guy with similar talent and more speed you could be really good at the position.

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As most have said a healthy KB should get a contract from us.  Then I'd make a hard push for Golden Tate if he gets to free agency.   Tate is durable and the NFL's best YAC.  

 

If I can't get Tate, I then go after Rishard Matthews.  

 

I keep a very close eye on TE Eifert and how he plays after his injury.  

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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

If KB stays healthy. Resign him. Cost is likely going to be 12-14M per year on him. 

 

Draft a WR early as well. 

 

The young guy is relatively cheap until Kelvin is gone. I could see it going that way. My biggest concern is KB staying 100% in the game if he gets the big money. He’s had some....not 100% years. 

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Use the franchise tag on KB.  They can tag him for two more years.  He is super talented but no one knows the long term knee issues he may have.  He may be fine but they only need two more years out of him.  They have two drafts and two FA periods to replace him while he is still controlled by the team.  I can't think of another player that would be tag worthy in the next two years.  

I would be ok with a WR in FA or in round 2-3.  But next year #1 needs to be the top OLB available.  Even if they add an OLB in FA they should still draft another OLB in the first round.  

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4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

The young guy is relatively cheap until Kelvin is gone. I could see it going that way. My biggest concern is KB staying 100% in the game if he gets the big money. He’s had some....not 100% years. 

That isn't big money anymore. 

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I do think Beane will address WR, OL, LB, TE, and CB depth.   

 

Right now our roster is similar to last year.  Still weak at WR, weak on OL depth, questions at LB.  

 

The wildcard for this season  is how will the QB play.  Can we get more passing production from the new QB with similar ball protection?   

 

Perhaps the defense will be improved this season as some steps were taken to improve at MLB and DL.  

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6 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:

Use the franchise tag on KB.  They can tag him for two more years.  He is super talented but no one knows the long term knee issues he may have.  He may be fine but they only need two more years out of him.  They have two drafts and two FA periods to replace him while he is still controlled by the team.  I can't think of another player that would be tag worthy in the next two years.  

I would be ok with a WR in FA or in round 2-3.  But next year #1 needs to be the top OLB available.  Even if they add an OLB in FA they should still draft another OLB in the first round.  

 

I could see them using the Franchise Tagas well over a long term deal because of the lockout uncertainty and possible changes to CBA. 

 

 

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IMO, the days of needing a true "#1 WR" have essentially passed due to all of the NFL rule changes. I'm not saying the Bills don't need to continue to look at WR, but honestly, I'm more about the Defensive Line / DE in the upcoming Draft as all reports are that those are the positions of real value and depth for 2019. Add in Kyle's probable last year, Washington being whatever he ends up being and Hughes being 30 and Lawson being a question mark as well....I'll take a DE / DT in 1st - 2nd, and keep KB if stays healthy and produces even modest numbers depending on his contract demands, Coleman, Zay and probably either Phillips or Ray-Ray that make the squad. Plus Reilly - yeah, you can find good to decent WRs anywhere in the Draft. In fact, many of the really good ones were not 1st Round picks; i.e. Antonio Brown, Doug Baldwin, Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen, Jordy Nelson,  etc. And yes, I realize there are a great many good WRs Drafted in the 1st round, my point being you don't *have* to Draft one in the 1st. 

 

If KB plays well, sign him and extend him for reasons related to continuity and using Draft capital in the right places. Then Coleman, we'll see, and Zay needs to be healthy but he can play....you don't set the FBS record with 399 catches and forget how to catch. We'll see if the torn labrum made him alligator arm catches and if he can rebound nicely. 

 

Defensive Line - OLB - Offensive Line - with CB being a FA priority. TEs take several years to develop. So, if you're going to Draft one, you do so in the 3rd or 4th round - again, look at history. Tony Gonzalez was the last truly great TE Drafted in the 1st and if you Draft a player in the 1st, you're doing so with either HOF in mind or immediate contributor. Just b/c I know there will be people who ask for examples: Gates, Witten, Kelce, Jimmy Graham, and Ertz and Gronk were taken in the 2nd round....

 

Fans in contemporary NFL tend to overvalue WRs in relation to Draft position....the NFL doesn't. QB / O & D Line / LB, and then skill positions, WR-RB-CB.

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AJ Brown-WR Ole Miss

Ahmmon Richards-WR Miami

Anthony Johnson-WR Buffalo

 

Are guys I'm looking at in the Draft but to be honest I think Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Corey Coleman and Ray Ray McCloud might surprise folks this year especially if Josh Allen makes the job his at some point this season. 

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I have hopes in Coleman.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/corey-coleman?id=2555333Bottom Line

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angerous vertical talent with the ability to get over the top of defenders who fail to recognize his blazing quickness off the line of scrimmage. Coleman can get instant separation to create favorable passing windows and is one of the top playmakers in this draft. Coleman's issues with drops near the middle of the field could be a concern if teams see him next as a slot receiver due to his lack of size. Regardless, he can line up outside and win and he offers immediate punt return help.               40-yard dash: 4.37 seconds

 

Put this guy on the outside and have him run a fly pattern most of the time. That should take two defenders downfield. 

 

Draft offensive linemen.

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7 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

That isn't big money anymore. 

 

If Kelvin has a big year and we re-sign him, it will be for very significant money. Top of the WR list? No, but pretty big money. But, as I said, the young guy will be relatively cheap for a while. 

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8 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

IMO, the days of needing a true "#1 WR" have essentially passed due to all of the NFL rule changes. I'm not saying the Bills don't need to continue to look at WR, but honestly, I'm more about the Defensive Line / DE in the upcoming Draft as all reports are that those are the positions of real value and depth for 2019. Add in Kyle's probable last year, Washington being whatever he ends up being and Hughes being 30 and Lawson being a question mark as well....I'll take a DE / DT in 1st - 2nd, and keep KB if stays healthy and produces even modest numbers depending on his contract demands, Coleman, Zay and probably either Phillips or Ray-Ray that make the squad. Plus Reilly - yeah, you can find good to decent WRs anywhere in the Draft. In fact, many of the really good ones were not 1st Round picks; i.e. Antonio Brown, Doug Baldwin, Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen, Jordy Nelson,  etc. And yes, I realize there are a great many good WRs Drafted in the 1st round, my point being you don't *have* to Draft one in the 1st. 

 

If KB plays well, sign him and extend him for reasons related to continuity and using Draft capital in the right places. Then Coleman, we'll see, and Zay needs to be healthy but he can play....you don't set the FBS record with 399 catches and forget how to catch. We'll see if the torn labrum made him alligator arm catches and if he can rebound nicely. 

 

Defensive Line - OLB - Offensive Line - with CB being a FA priority. TEs take several years to develop. So, if you're going to Draft one, you do so in the 3rd or 4th round - again, look at history. Tony Gonzalez was the last truly great TE Drafted in the 1st and if you Draft a player in the 1st, you're doing so with either HOF in mind or immediate contributor. Just b/c I know there will be people who ask for examples: Gates, Witten, Kelce, Jimmy Graham, and Ertz and Gronk were taken in the 2nd round....

 

Fans in contemporary NFL tend to overvalue WRs in relation to Draft position....the NFL doesn't. QB / O & D Line / LB, and then skill positions, WR-RB-CB.

Yeah I disagree with this, you don't go out and get yourself a guy with the arm talent Josh has and not make any effort to bring in an explosive weapon for him to be able to use.  

3 hours ago, WhickedWilliams said:

Already have him on the roster

 

Corey Coleman

He has alot to proove that he is anything special at the NFL level

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2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Yeah I disagree with this, you don't go out and get yourself a guy with the arm talent Josh has and not make any effort to bring in an explosive weapon for him to be able to use.  

He has alot to proove that he is anything special at the NFL level

 

Well, one - you would need to more clearly define an “explosive weapon” since KB and Coleman might be it...

 

Second they didn’t Draft Allen as an arm, they did so as a QB. Which means arm strength is just one aspect of his game and a means of delivering the ball to receivers in various ways - good to great teams of recent have shown us various ways that can be achieved. 

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