RPbillsfan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 After a great draft and signing of undrafted free agents here is my first take on the final 53 man roster we will see for the start of the season: QB : McCarron, Allen, Peterman RB - McCoy, Ivory, Caderet, DiMarco WR - Benjamin, Jones, Streeter, Holmes, Foster, McDonald, Prohel TE - Clay, O'Leary, Thomas, Lee G/C - Miller, Duchasse, Teller, Groy, Bodine T - Dawkins, Newhouse, Mills, McDermott ST - Haucheska, Ferguson, Schmidt DT - Lutulii, Williams, Phillips, Washington DE - Hughes, Murphy, Lawson, Yarborough OLB - Milano, Humber, Stanford, Alexander ILB - Edmunds, Vallejo CB - White, Davis, Johnson, Gaines, Wallace S - Hyde, Poyer, Neal, Bush I'm assuming we may pursue depth at MLB and possible get rid of TE Lee or move McDonald or Proehl to the practice squad. Your thoughts and feedback as always are welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I think Kerley makes final roster at WR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm white and I know there is a resurgance of white receivers in the league but I don't think Proehl will be one of them, sorry. Foster is a guy I like a lot, I like him way better than Proehl and McCloud, I think he has a real shot at not only making the roster but seeing significant playing time, he is my dark horse pick, I like him a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I’m hoping there is someone there that we are not expecting much from that really steps up and surprises us ( like Milano last year...) I’ll hope for McDermott at RT... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. Yeah never understood that either,even a TE could do it. You can't even line up over the most protected position in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. I think it has more to do with practice time than anything else. With the current CBA, there isn’t enough practice time for one player to practice with the offensive live and the special team kicking units. My 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Proehl isn’t making the roster Edited May 1, 2018 by CaptnCoke11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 No Brandon Reilly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Still think we could add a linebacker to the final 53, maybe a Navarro Bowman to help in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Peterman gets cut if Allen shows he is even halfway capable of running the offense One or two of those WRs get PS'ed Lee gets cut (hopefully) (Long snappers are extremely specialized and valued. No, not anyone can just do it - in addition to their other duties. Once you master the skill, and do it correct every time, your an NFL lifer. There are a couple of camps that pump out basically all the long snappers in the NFL, its actually quite interesting. I don't have time to search for the article but there was a great one a couple seasons back about the road to the NFL as a long snapper. Quite good) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. 3 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Yeah never understood that either,even a TE could do it. You can't even line up over the most protected position in football. Long snapping is a very specialized skill. These guys practice it basically for the entire practice. Overlooking this to keep some garbage bottom 53 player is not wise. Just ask Trey Junkin who cost the Giants a playoff game...they got cheap and took him off the scrap heap. People don't realize that a split half second of snap time is the difference between every kick getting blocked and none of them getting blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUnW7yL8Pc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 McCloud makes this team over Cadet. He fills several different holes/needs. 3rd RB, returner, and slot WR. His ability to play several positions is what'll help him make the team. Proehl is a very good possession WR will be a good fit and should develop quite nicely. Still need ILB depth, Edmunds played outside so you never know if he will adjust that well to a new position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 The only thing I'd add is: I could see this staff keeping "their guy" Tenny Palepoi over Adolphus Washington at DT. Washington is my "surprise cut" right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m hoping there is someone there that we are not expecting much from that really steps up and surprises us ( like Milano last year...) I’ll hope for McDermott at RT... got me wondering too... 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The only thing I'd add is: I could see this staff keeping "their guy" Tenny Palepoi over Adolphus Washington at DT. Washington is my "surprise cut" right now. ummm...no this year could be the year adolphus breaks out.....and hopefully shaq too. how about hatley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. Because most LS are LB sized (see 246 lbs). It might look like an easy job but imagine it's quite stressful as one bad one and your career could be over in a snap 5 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: After a great draft and signing of undrafted free agents here is my first take on the final 53 man roster we will see for the start of the season: QB : McCarron, Allen, Peterman RB - McCoy, Ivory, Caderet, DiMarco WR - Benjamin, Jones, Streeter, Holmes, Foster, McDonald, Prohel TE - Clay, O'Leary, Thomas, Lee G/C - Miller, Ducasse, Teller, Groy, Bodine T - Dawkins, Newhouse, Mills, McDermott ST - Haucheska, Ferguson, Schmidt DT - Lutulii, Williams, Phillips, Washington DE - Hughes, Murphy, Lawson, Yarborough OLB - Milano, Humber, Stanford, Alexander ILB - Edmunds, Vallejo CB - White, Davis, Johnson, Gaines, Wallace S - Hyde, Poyer, Neal, Bush I'm assuming we may pursue depth at MLB and possible get rid of TE Lee or move McDonald or Proehl to the practice squad. Your thoughts and feedback as always are welcome Seeing this outlined it looks like we still need to work on LB and possibly a veteran CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: ummm...no this year could be the year adolphus breaks out.....and hopefully shaq too. how about hatley? Dont tell me, tell the FO. I'm just guessing at what they will do, not what I think should happen. They've cleared a lot of picks from the previous regime. Washington could easily be on his way out. I personally would keep Washington, but not so sure the FO feels the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Long snapping is a very specialized skill. These guys practice it basically for the entire practice. Overlooking this to keep some garbage bottom 53 player is not wise. Just ask Trey Junkin who cost the Giants a playoff game...they got cheap and took him off the scrap heap. People don't realize that a split half second of snap time is the difference between every kick getting blocked and none of them getting blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUnW7yL8Pc I have been to training camp practices, and I have never seen a long snapper do more than 4-5x practice takes. Maybe I got bored watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Long snapping is a very specialized skill. These guys practice it basically for the entire practice. Overlooking this to keep some garbage bottom 53 player is not wise. Just ask Trey Junkin who cost the Giants a playoff game...they got cheap and took him off the scrap heap. People don't realize that a split half second of snap time is the difference between every kick getting blocked and none of them getting blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUnW7yL8Pc Makes sense,just thought the 3rd or 4th string TE might be able to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I think we add a veteran LB, veteran speed WR and young speed back (make Gilislee when he is cut) to that mix. Lose Lee and Peterman, and Proehl probably to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I like the talent when it is laid out like that...its a pretty good roster. I def think Kerley makes it......and I think Reilly makes the team with his 4.2 speed...i think a couple of those draft picks go to practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I like the talent when it is laid out like that...its a pretty good roster. I def think Kerley makes it......and I think Reilly makes the team with his 4.2 speed...i think a couple of those draft picks go to practice squad I think you inverted the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I think you inverted the 2 Hmmm i could have swore I read that Reilly ran a 4.2 at his pro day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Why can’t a back up center perform the duties of a long snapper? Lol the long snapper has the easiest !@#$ing gig I swear. They practice with the kicker and the punter on the other field like the whole time. Your backup center has to actually snap to QBs a lot, and work on blocking technique. If they practiced at a different time - maybe it could work? It's why the punters basically always hold kicks now too, they're already over there with the LS and kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) I don't think they keep 7 WR's on active roster. One of those drafted will be on the PS to start the year IMO. Who knows though. How many did they start with last year on the active? Edited May 1, 2018 by Lagoon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, dneveu said: They practice with the kicker and the punter on the other field like the whole time. Your backup center has to actually snap to QBs a lot, and work on blocking technique. If they practiced at a different time - maybe it could work? It's why the punters basically always hold kicks now too, they're already over there with the LS and kicker. You’re right. I forgot that the second units run too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 IMO, our other starting WR and at least one OL aren’t yet on the team. Ritchie?.. ok, In My HOPE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Makes sense,just thought the 3rd or 4th string TE might be able to do it Oh yeah they definitely can. I just think teams would rather keep a specialized guy to do it. There is always a backup long snapper who is a position player just in case the LS gets injured. But teams have a long snapper for the same reason they have punters hold for kickers. It's such an important thing but having your quarterback do it is a huge waste of practice time. It easier to just have the punter do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Goes without saying but we need another man on the OL and stud at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 At LEAST one WR spot, maybe two, get allocated instead to S, CB, and/or DL. 7 WRs is a non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 19 hours ago, offyourocker said: No Brandon Reilly? Not to worry, Reilly makes it over half these wr scrubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 21 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: After a great draft and signing of undrafted free agents here is my first take on the final 53 man roster we will see for the start of the season: QB : McCarron, Allen, Peterman RB - McCoy, Ivory, Caderet, DiMarco WR - Benjamin, Jones, Streeter, Holmes, Foster, McDonald, Prohel TE - Clay, O'Leary, Thomas, Lee G/C - Miller, Duchasse, Teller, Groy, Bodine T - Dawkins, Newhouse, Mills, McDermott ST - Haucheska, Ferguson, Schmidt DT - Lutulii, Williams, Phillips, Washington DE - Hughes, Murphy, Lawson, Yarborough OLB - Milano, Humber, Stanford, Alexander ILB - Edmunds, Vallejo CB - White, Davis, Johnson, Gaines, Wallace S - Hyde, Poyer, Neal, Bush I'm assuming we may pursue depth at MLB and possible get rid of TE Lee or move McDonald or Proehl to the practice squad. Your thoughts and feedback as always are welcome Gaines went to the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, SJDK said: Gaines went to the Browns Phillip Gaines, FA played in KC last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 23 hours ago, dbflaBill said: McCloud makes this team over Cadet. He fills several different holes/needs. 3rd RB, returner, and slot WR. His ability to play several positions is what'll help him make the team. Proehl is a very good possession WR will be a good fit and should develop quite nicely. Still need ILB depth, Edmunds played outside so you never know if he will adjust that well to a new position. why over Cadet and not over a WR?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Wallace is interesting. He went from playing flag football in intramurals to starting in the college playoffs in 3 yrs. I wouldn't rule the guy out. Foster I'm not as sure about. He was a 5* recruit, but he wasn't very productive. Of course, Alabama was loaded at WR which limited his touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: why over Cadet and not over a WR?.. Bills aren't keeping 7 WR. Theyll only keep 5 or 6. Plus He can fill Cadets role allowing the Bills to keep only 3 backs and 5 WR. Hes the 3rd back and 6 WR essentially freeing up a roster spot for an extra DB, LB or OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Who is WR McDonald ? Don't see him on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: Who is WR McDonald ? Don't see him on the roster. Assuming he meant McCloud, our 6th round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: Who is WR McDonald ? Don't see him on the roster. I think he has a leg up over Prohel. He is a very sure handed returner and should replace Tate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said: why over Cadet and not over a WR?.. I think the idea is that McCloud could be more of a slash type player. returner, slot reciever, running back. He was a highly recruited running back out of high school. I still think the Bills will keep a guy like Cadet and McCloud. I would actually replace Cadet with Shane Vereen, who is sitting out there and knows this system well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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