Sky Diver Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: that explains EVERYTHING. 21 - 9. What wasn’t to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: 21 - 9. What wasn’t to like? I'm NOT going down this rabbit hole with the likes of you, sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: I'm NOT going down this rabbit hole with the likes of you, sorry. Do whatever you want. I’m standing by the 70% winning percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: Do whatever you want. I’m standing by the 70% winning percentage. You do you, big fella. You do you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: 21 - 9. What wasn’t to like? What was not to like was not being able to go deep into the playoffs with an elite defense because our QB sucked ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, ducej11 said: Um... I am not sure that's the best metric. Rank Player University (Seasons) Total passing yards 1 Case Keenum Houston (2007–2011) 19,217 2 Timmy Chang Hawaii (2000–2004) 17,072 3 Landry Jones Oklahoma (2009–2012) 16,646 4 Graham Harrell Texas Tech (2005–2008) 15,793 5 Ty Detmer BYU (1988–1991) 15,031 6 Kellen Moore Boise State (2008–2011) 14,667 7 Baker Mayfield Texas Tech (2013), Oklahoma (2015–2017) 14,607 8 Luke Falk Washington State (2014–2017) 14,481 9 Colt Brennan Hawaii (2005–2007) 14,193 10 Rakeem Cato Marshall (2011–2014) 14,079 11 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State (2014–2017) 13,618 12 Sean Mannion Oregon State (2011–2014) 13,600 13 Philip Rivers NC State (2000–2003) 13,484 14 Corey Robinson Troy (2010–2013) 13,477 15 Colt McCoy Texas (2006–2009) 13,253 sorry... I should have been more specific but I meant NFL passing yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: What was not to like was not being able to go deep into the playoffs with an elite defense because our QB sucked ass. The only QBs with higher winning percentages than Fluitie when he was with Buffalo are Brady, Montana, Staubach, Lamonica, and Otto Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) If I had to pick one it would be total yards. But the ranking of the opponents would be a factor to modify it. Edited April 19, 2018 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 My main criteria is accuracy. If you're not accurate, why are you under center? I'm hoping AJ is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: The year prior to Rosen, UCLA was 10 - 3. During the Rosen years UCLA was 8 - 5, 4 - 8 and 6 - 7. My biggest concerns with Rosen are toughness, tends to back pedal in the face of pressure, and has trouble with velocity when moved off platform. If we draft him we will need to get him a good oline because I don’t trust his mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, jr1 said: interception percentage. Brady, Rogers, Wilson, Ryan etc are all career top 10 my namesake says Hi. Completion percentage - and by that, I mean 67% is base minimum. If you are completing that many passes, all the other numbers fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: This is tough, as there isn't just 1 trait that makes a good QB. Accuracy has to be the most important trait. Chad Penningron and his noodle arm had a productive career based mostly on him being an accurate passer. I will go one further. Since we are limited to one thing I go with: Arm talent: IE accurate and strong. See what I did there? .......lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If he can't get a 10 for a girlfriend or wife then he sucks. At least a 9.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Irv said: If he can't get a 10 for a girlfriend or wife then he sucks. At least a 9.5. I would give McCarron a 10 for that one, although maybe I have to take point off since his wife went to Auburn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Eye speed. Closely followed by eye discipline. I"m tempted to ask how one measures these "metrics" but I'll lay it right out front I don't want to see a picture of some sort of leather BDSM eye restraint device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Accuracy, throwing receivers open, making tight-window throws, reading defenses, working through progressions, the willingness to take some risks in order to allow his teammates to make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Wins YPA INT% TD/INT ratio Wins and YPA are as much abput the entire offense as it is juat about the QB. YPA can be attributed to a good OL, WR YAC, succesaful play action because of good running game, and the offense not always being in must pass situations. 4th qtr comebacks are interesting. By definition it means the team was behind. Does the QB assume no blame for being behind after 3 qtrs but credit for a comeback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Ball placement I guess. They need to hit receiver in stride to maximize YAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: That's a bad game for sure. But literally no QB has a rating that low over any sustained period. The worst for the season last year was Kizer with a 60.5 I agree. QBs have a bad game or 2 over 17 weeks (16 games) W/o looking it up again we saw what 3 games with a QB rating under 50 in a 5? game stretch and then the playoff game of under 36 (ish) If my #s are off my apologise 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: 3rd down completion percentage and touchdown drives. Completion or total 3rd down conversion? we saw a decent completion % passing but it wasn’t leading to points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I’d assume performance metric means “statistic” so I’d probably go with TD passes. But the most important thing to possess is accuracy (along with anticipation, ability to read the defense). Edited April 19, 2018 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Holistic criteria are generally better than focusing on one element. Obviously, a deficit in one characteristic may be offset by a strength elsewhere. A weaker arm can be made up for with superior accuracy, for instance. DIfferent combinations can result in success or failure. Fit between qb and system is a significant factor, but in terms of individual strengths, I would favor the ability to read the defense and make a quick decision. OTOH, I often use the criteria of picking the name that would best fit the hero of a Western Edited April 19, 2018 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Good old fashioned passer rating. If you look at how the formula was created (back in the 70s I think), the just kind of threw stats together, gave them a coefficient, and said there it is. So it’s remarkable how good it is. Really, we can argue about the Tyrods who seem to have gamed the ratings and come in higher than the eyeball test would dictate. But I dare you to find a truly bad QB who consistently ranks high on QB rating, or a good QB who consistently ranks low. It’s ... pretty good. Way better than that espn attempt (total QBR?) to do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Yards per attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 For college QBs, you have to look at the pressure they are under as they complete thier highlight plays. With no pressure anyone can reel out highlights. They also need to show a good percentage of reads. Ball placement is critical, are the receivers catching in stride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, BuckeyeBill said: Yards per attempt Win- loss record followed closely by yards per attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm just steamed that no one reacted to my aaron maybin/quick first step comment. I gave you gold, folks. Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: grabbing their junk and staring down the opposing sideline. hands down. here's your qb metric right here!(grabs junk) laughed out loud! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 sorry i skipped all the posts...i'll read them later, but for me it's td to int.....period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 6 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I agree. QBs have a bad game or 2 over 17 weeks (16 games) W/o looking it up again we saw what 3 games with a QB rating under 50 in a 5? game stretch and then the playoff game of under 36 (ish) If my #s are off my apologise Completion or total 3rd down conversion? we saw a decent completion % passing but it wasn’t leading to points. I meant conversion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Dr. Who said: OTOH, I often use the criteria of picking the name that would best fit the hero of a Western Luke Falk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Completion percentage on passes covering over 15 air yards. Min 50 attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Luke Falk Not bad. If we miss out on the top tier, Luke should go to the top of the list on the basis of "sounds like he should be wearing a Stetson." OTOH, Sam Darnold's grandfather was the Marlboro Man . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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