elltrain22 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Not what you want but which QB do you think the Jets will take?? I say Allen. I think they love the big arm, and I think NFL gms are too awestruck by his huge arm. Any coach, GM, staff already knows they can "fix" his inefficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Word is if Rosen is there then it’s 1000% Rosen because he fits our WCO scheme perfectly and we love the kid. Our front office absolutely needs a QB that can impact the Win column this year. Rosen just seems to be that guy for us. Allen is someone that we are comfortable with. We love his upside but personally I don’t think we have the organization that can develop the kid and help him reach his “potential”. Potential is a very iffy word in the world of football but if the choice comes down to Mayfield or Allen..I do believe Macc goes Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It's the Jets...they'll find a way to goof it up. They'll take Allen... & the NY media will claim he's the best thing since Namath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 They won't take Rosen. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They won't take Rosen. Just a hunch. Hopefully the Bills won't give them an opportunity to pick him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 They are taking a running back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I hope they take Allen. While he was impressive at his pro day, I just don’t like what I hear when he talks. He sounds like a teenager. I can’t imagine him owning an NFL locker room. That being said, he has the potential to be the best......IF he’s given the right tools to succeed. I don’t believe the jets will do that for him, hence why I really hope he’s who the jets select, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Neither. They will rock the draft and take Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Hopefully the Bills won't give them an opportunity to pick him. I agree , but as we know depends on the G-Men 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I don't want Allen (because I think he's terrible) but I don't want the Jets to get him either (because I'm not an expert and could be wrong). Maybe they'll draft that John O'Korn guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Whoever is left. The Giants and Browns are both taking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Whoever is left. The Giants and Browns are both taking a QB. Who would they take between Allen and Mayfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Whichever one won’t complain publically about getting locked in the basement with Hack and Petty so they can desperately play 39 yr Josh mccown. I’m thinking that’s Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I'm guessing Allen since Woody Johnson is Donald Trump's neighbor. Plus, Allen is the player who is most similar to the last quarterback prospect they completely whiffed on. Allen is miles better though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Don't care I'd rather the Bills use their plethora of draft picks to build a winner around AJ McCarron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They won't take Rosen. Just a hunch. Yeah, too many bad raps on this board! That's the same Rosen, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, mead107 said: They are taking a running back I heard there is a long snapper who NEVER misses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Why did Bridgwater sign with this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 My money is on Mayfield. It's a match made in heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Word is if Rosen is there then it’s 1000% Rosen because he fits our WCO scheme perfectly and we love the kid. Our front office absolutely needs a QB that can impact the Win column this year. Rosen just seems to be that guy for us. Allen is someone that we are comfortable with. We love his upside but personally I don’t think we have the organization that can develop the kid and help him reach his “potential”. Potential is a very iffy word in the world of football but if the choice comes down to Mayfield or Allen..I do believe Macc goes Allen. That was the scheme under Dennison and now it's changing to Erhardt-Perkins scheme which is what the Patriots run and a big reason as to why Deball is the new OC. He worked for the Patriots for a lot of years as WR, TE assistant coach and was the Alabama OC last year. This was one of the reasons as to why they moved on from Tyrod and now want more of a pocket passer QB vs an RPO QB. Just some food for thought here. UCLA QB Josh Rosen ran a version of a WCO offense and that is kinda why I don't believe all the hype around the Bills wanting him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Neither in my opinion - agree with Mayfield, otherwise Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, Nihilarian said: That was the scheme under Dennison and now it's changing to Erhardt-Perkins scheme which is what the Patriots run and a big reason as to why Deball is the new OC. He worked for the Patriots for a lot of years as WR, TE assistant coach and was the Alabama OC last year. This was one of the reasons as to why they moved on from Tyrod and now want more of a pocket passer QB vs an RPO QB. Just some food for thought here. UCLA QB Josh Rosen ran a version of a WCO offense and that is kinda why I don't believe all the hype around the Bills wanting him. Makes sense. Could the Bills use a guy like Allen with prototypical size and style of play? I know you guys don’t love the thought of Allen but I believe you could develop him better than we ever can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, mead107 said: They are taking a running back I think the Jets main plan is to draft Sam Darnold and if he isn't there I think they go RB Saquon Barkley. This makes so much more sense as they did sign Teddy Bridgewater who could be their long-term QB if he ever returns to 100% healthy. 4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Makes sense. Could the Bills use a guy like Allen with prototypical size and style of play? I know you guys don’t love the thought of Allen but I believe you could develop him better than we ever can. I love Josh Allen and think he would be a perfect fit in Buffalo. A big, strong blue-collar type who played in the snow and cold of Wyoming. His toughness reminds me of Jim Kelly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I think the Jets main plan is to draft Sam Darnold and if he isn't there I think they go RB Saquon Barkley. This makes so much more sense as they did sign Teddy Bridgewater who could be their long-term QB if he ever returns to 100% healthy. I love Josh Allen and think he would be a perfect fit in Buffalo. A big, strong blue-collar type who played in the snow and cold of Wyoming. His toughness reminds me of Jim Kelly. If a trade up to #2 doesn’t happen, #4 would be ideal if you guys wanted to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Nihilarian said: That was the scheme under Dennison and now it's changing to Erhardt-Perkins scheme which is what the Patriots run and a big reason as to why Deball is the new OC. He worked for the Patriots for a lot of years as WR, TE assistant coach and was the Alabama OC last year. This was one of the reasons as to why they moved on from Tyrod and now want more of a pocket passer QB vs an RPO QB. Just some food for thought here. UCLA QB Josh Rosen ran a version of a WCO offense and that is kinda why I don't believe all the hype around the Bills wanting him. Daboll atleast at Alabama ran alot of rpo plays though. And I wouldn't focus too much on what scheme players ran in college , the prominent offences in the NFL Coryell west coast earndheart Perkins etc all use the same plays they just have different ways of executing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Everyone is saying Allen which means they'll definitely take Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCoBills Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 They go Rosen or Mayfield. I don’t think teams value Allen as much as the hype leads people to believe. Lots of smoke and mirrors. I see Allen falling to late 1st. His tape doesn’t match the hype. He’s an impressive specimen with a cannon for an arm but the tape tells another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Jesse Jackson says Hymietown wants Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Rosen is a walking red flag. Good chance he falls out of top 6 picks. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go 10 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCoBills Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Rosen is a walking red flag. Good chance he falls out of top 6 picks. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go 10 range Rosen is the red flag of the bunch to you? Allen is the big arm with no accuracy. That is the most common red flag of nearly every overly hyped college QB to NFL bust ever. Rosen has deep ball accuracy issues and I believe some concussion history but aside from that I’d say Allen is the walking red flag. Obviously with Baker you have the Johnny Football type fears. Edited March 25, 2018 by SoCoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCoBills said: Rosen is the red flag of the bunch of you? Allen is the big arm with no accuracy. That is the most common red flag of nearly every overly hyped college QB to NFL bust ever. Rosen has deep ball accuracy issues and I believe some concussion history but aside from that I’d say Allen is the walking red flag. Obviously with Baker you have the Johnny Football type fears. Hmmm. I'll agree on Allens being a red flag, mostly his lack of resume. He hasn't done a lot at the college level . I don't think that Mayfield is going to suddenly turn into an alcoholic or have a mental breakdown so I don't see much comparable to a Manziel. His height is his biggest red flag as he does tend to play out of the pocket too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 If it goes Darnold and then Chubb, I see the Jets taking Mayfield. Can't see Rosen because of the Trump stuff and Allen probably isn't as high on most teams' boards as the pundits would like you to think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, SoCoBills said: Rosen is the red flag of the bunch to you? Allen is the big arm with no accuracy. That is the most common red flag of nearly every overly hyped college QB to NFL bust ever. Rosen has deep ball accuracy issues and I believe some concussion history but aside from that I’d say Allen is the walking red flag. Obviously with Baker you have the Johnny Football type fears. The biggest concern for Rosen is the shoulder nerve issues. Then you had the concussions. Then you add the attitude and political BS (this is the league where Kap is unemployed). Then you add his slight stature. Then you add his immobility within pocket which many say is a major reason for his injuries. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCoBills Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Hmmm. I'll agree on Allens being a red flag, mostly his lack of resume. He hasn't done a lot at the college level . I don't think that Mayfield is going to suddenly turn into an alcoholic or have a mental breakdown so I don't see much comparable to a Manziel. His height is his biggest red flag as he does tend to play out of the pocket too much. I spent a ton of time watching Mayfield tape and his pocket presence is excellent and not only does he move well in the pocket but he’s always looking to throw. For a shorter guy he seems to have no issues throwing over the middle either. I agree he isnt Manziel but he has had some issues with taunting and off the field he had an arrest for public intoxication and resisting arrest. When that happens people will draw comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I think they pick Rosen because he has the great "NFL ready" arm, and he has the strong personality and smarts to thrive in the NYC market. Allen is a project and they already tried that with Hackenberg, and they didn't trade up and give up three 2nd round picks for a 6" QB in Mayfield. Bills fans who are all in on Rosen probably should start getting to know Allen, Mayfield or Jackson a little bit better. I do think that Rosen will have a Bradford type of career because the Jets won't be able to protect him and keep him on the field after giving away so much. Edited March 25, 2018 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 After we trade up to 2 for Rosen they'll have no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Josh Allen has missed games like Josh Rosen. Why is one considered brittle and the other a tough guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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