DrDawkinstein Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/20/bill-polian-to-help-form-new-spring-pro-football-league/ Polian and Charlie Ebersol teaming up on a new league, starting this February! So now with McMahon's plan to re-launch XFL in 2020, we'll have TWO spring leagues? There's already talk here in Atlanta of our upcoming AAF team and where they are going to play. Edited March 21, 2018 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Orlando, Birmingham, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, St Louis, San Diego, Memphis, Columbus OH are possible cities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Quote There will be no kickoffs and innovations around onsides kicks in which teams can go for a fourth-and-1o from the 35-yard line to retain possession. Also, there will no extra points, only two-point conversions after scores, and a 30-second play clock. Interesting, no kickoffs and a "4th and 1" play to win possession on your own kickoff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hope these leagues inspire positive changes in the NFL again. I feel like the NFL needs to adapt in a way, accept that this is more ‘entertainment’ than sport now more than ever. And by that I mean they need to streamline and freshen certain elements of the game. For example, idk which league is using this rule, but I love no onside kick and the team that’s behind gets a 4th and 10 from their own 35. Fresh idea, imo. The NFL needs to find a way move on from 3+ hour productions, and the stodgy olde-timey feel of some of the rules, or they will continue to lose younger generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Hope these leagues inspire positive changes in the NFL again. I feel like the NFL needs to adapt in a way, accept that this is more ‘entertainment’ than sport now more than ever. And by that I mean they need to streamline and freshen certain elements of the game. For example, idk which league is using this rule, but I love no onside kick and the team that’s behind gets a 4th and 10 from their own 35. Fresh idea, imo. The NFL needs to find a way move on from 3+ hour productions, and the stodgy olde-timey feel of some of the rules, or they will continue to lose younger generations. You're hitting the nail on the head when talking about the 3+ hours. I love watching the games, however when the bye week hits it always amazes me how much I get done by not watching a game. Additionally, I cant do the late games. Maybe I am in the minority, but I wish they could start the Monday and Thursday night games around 7pm rather than 8:30 or 9pm. I understand the conflict with the West Coast but maybe a double header is the answer, I am not sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Hope these leagues inspire positive changes in the NFL again. I feel like the NFL needs to adapt in a way, accept that this is more ‘entertainment’ than sport now more than ever. And by that I mean they need to streamline and freshen certain elements of the game. For example, idk which league is using this rule, but I love no onside kick and the team that’s behind gets a 4th and 10 from their own 35. Fresh idea, imo. The NFL needs to find a way move on from 3+ hour productions, and the stodgy olde-timey feel of some of the rules, or they will continue to lose younger generations. and the same opening game play of play action, roll out, 1 yd pass to TE or FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 This league seems to be a much better concept than McMahon's vision. The partnership with the players is a key element, while McMahon has a history of leeching off his talent. It is a matter of how they aspire the league to be in the beginning and how they grow it. Start out as kind of a regional league in mid-size markets in smaller venues and keep overhead and debt under control and it stands a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Orlando, Birmingham, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, St Louis, San Diego, Memphis, Columbus OH are possible cities. Interesting choice of cities and not looking to the upper Midwest at all. Kentucky/Tennessee could offer a good location. Also somewhere eastern carolinas could be good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Interesting choice of cities and not looking to the upper Midwest at all. Kentucky/Tennessee could offer a good location. Also somewhere eastern carolinas could be good THey said warm weather, though I mentioned Columbus but Louisville is a good spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 IMO I think both leaves have an uphill battle. I’d agree that the Ebersol league has a much better chance to succeed given his involvement with former NFL talent and personnel. IMO the biggest issue with the XFL was the fact that Vince McMahon was the owner. WWE is seen by the majority of people as “low brow,” especially from legit sports writers. I don’t think many journalists ever got past that. Of course, the XFL sure gave reporters and fans alike a reason not to like the product. I felt that the concept was pretty good but the overall execution of the XFL sucked. The question I have is, if the AAL or whatever they call the league is successful who will NFL react? It makes me wonder if involvement in another football property will strain relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm much more excited for this than the XFL. Seems like it has a real chance to succeed considering the people involved and CBS deal in place. Should be a legit spring league and farm league for the NFL, at least to start. I'll buy seasons if there's a SD team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 47 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I searched so many terms and came up empty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Wouldn't mind seeing a team in Greenville SC....we just got two "professional" soccer teams...so why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Are mobile QBs banished to WR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Someone needs to start up a "Big 7" for football like the "Big 3" basketball spin off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/20/bill-polian-to-help-form-new-spring-pro-football-league/ Polian and Charlie Ebersol teaming up on a new league, starting this February! So now with McMahon's plan to re-launch XFL in 2020, we'll have TWO spring leagues? There's already talk here in Atlanta of our upcoming AAF team and where they are going to play. As long as he doesn’t draft anyone- You know he’s worse than Russ and Marv right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Id love to see Tebow, Manzeil, some other exciting college players get a shot. With those big names you will certainly sell tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: As long as he doesn’t draft anyone- You know he’s worse than Russ and Marv right? Maybe not worse, but technically his percentage of success is lower than the GM’s who followed him. Lets put it this way - it’s like a rookie hitter in baseball batting .350 in a handful of games vs. a player who has played in all 162 and is hitting .299. Doesn’t mean the rookie is better but percentage wise he does have the higher BA. Edited March 21, 2018 by BuffaloRush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Maybe not worse, but technically his percentage of success is lower than the GM’s who followed him. Lets put it this way - it’s like a rookie hitter in baseball batting .350 in a handful of games vs. a player who has played in all 162 and is hitting .299. Doesn’t mean the rookie is better but percentage wise he does have the higher BA. Technically ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Never thought I'd say this, but it's too much football... I have major concerns for player safety in all these "bush" leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I just hope it becomes a good training ground for young QB’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, peterpan said: Id love to see Tebow, Manzeil, some other exciting college players get a shot. With those big names you will certainly sell tickets. ...I believe he's been over served already........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 @Mike in Horseheads broke this the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 This isn't football... its something football "like". These kinds of leagues never seem to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I’m starting a league soon. The GFL. For men 50 and over. Geritol for the G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, #34fan said: Never thought I'd say this, but it's too much football... I have major concerns for player safety in all these "bush" leagues. No you are right. I feel that all sports need an off-season. It gives fans a slight break and builds anticipation for the year. I feel there’s a good reason that this idea never really succeed in professional sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said: No you are right. I feel that all sports need an off-season. It gives fans a slight break and builds anticipation for the year. Even if the players are different, I know the NFL spends a great deal of time and resources keeping players safe. A strapped-for-cash new league may need to cut corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 They will probably have a deal in plavevto merge with the xfl in a year or two to really try and get this thing big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Orlando, Birmingham, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, St Louis, San Diego, Memphis, Columbus OH are possible cities. How about Oakland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Mark Vader said: How about Oakland? forgot that one. Why not the NFL screwed them also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 8:52 AM, Tatonka68 said: Orlando, Birmingham, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, St Louis, San Diego, Memphis, Columbus OH are possible cities. Think it will be warm weather teams only based on time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Is there a salary range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 i want to be excited about this league. but i have this feeling it will fold just like the others before it. i love football, i dont love it enough to watch substandard players play it. canadian football, meh arena, couldnt care less XFL, i watched for about 2 weeks, garbage football for hyped up fratboys. USFL, best of them all, succeeded for a short time merely because it actually had NFL caliber players playing, but ultimately still failed. so how does a fledgling football league get people interested without the best players playing? felt the same way about this past winter olympics when it came to the US Mens hockey team. NHL players werent allowed to participate, who the f cares then? i personally wanted to watch the best play. mbe some brilliant marketing guy can give us a reason to watch this league. not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 2:22 PM, T&C said: This isn't football... its something football "like". These kinds of leagues never seem to make it. But, it is football. CFL, AFL and IFL say hello... On 3/21/2018 at 2:35 PM, BuffaloRush said: No you are right. I feel that all sports need an off-season. It gives fans a slight break and builds anticipation for the year. I feel there’s a good reason that this idea never really succeed in professional sports MLB's spring training and farm leagues have succeeded. What about the minor hockey leagues? Been going for decades. The NFL could definitely have minor leagues and a farm system outside of the NCAA and I think that is the approach this league should take. The personnel have NFL ties and it sounds like they're focused on building a beneficial relationship with the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 And we're off: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23060914/former-florida-south-carolina-head-coach-steve-spurrier-coach-orlando-team-alliance-american-football-league 1. Promising: seems to be real football, in the spring, likely in places without NFL franchises. Some minor rule changes, most of which (prediction!) the NFL itself will adopt: no kickoffs; to substitute for onside kicks, a team may elect to take the ball facing 4th and 10 at it's own 35. No extra points. 30 second play clock; attempt to finish a game in 2.5 hours. Some buy-in (limited) from CBS. 2. Not promising: decidedly a minor league. The "big names" brought in are ancient (Polian), irrelevant (Hines Ward, Polamalu), or both (Spurrier). Ebersol's kid seems smart though. Plus you're competing with the NFL, still (despite problems) the masters of marketing - look how they dominate the offseason with staged free agency periods, the draft, etc. You're up against all that plus post-Super Bowl fatigue. My guess: this one will work, on a minor scale, for a little while. The NFL will co-opt the best features (game length; player safety; some rules changes) and will eventually kill it. It could be a little fun for a little while ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:24 PM, Binghamton Beast said: I’m starting a league soon. The GFL. For men 50 and over. Geritol for the G. ...tryouts to be in Binghamton?.......bring my own Geritol or are you buying?............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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